Value in chasing the buzz of kali mist or similar genetics?

I have read lots and remain very curious about the highs people describe from kali mist and 8 mile high. Satori and western winds too. I live in a rural area and dont talk to anybody except my wife and you folks about MJ. So if I want to try something I have to grow it.which is cool. Just wondering if you folks who have grown and smoked some of these think it is worth the pursuit?

Never grown Kali mist, but by most accounts it gives that old school sativa "head-trippy" effect that lots of people are looking for.

What can I tell you. . .if you think you might be interested in that kind of thing, try it. I doubt you'll be disappointed. You're never really going to know until you try.

Just if you don't have a lot of growing experience, this one is going to be harder than many to grow, with a lot of the downsides of heavy sativa plants (ie long flowering time, stretchy, relatively low yield, etc).

My friend grew a kali mist and it smelled and taste sweeeeeet!

i agree with jogro of course.. i have piles of seeds that i buy simply for the fact that they sound good to me and one day i will get around to growing them..

plus, i've learned along time ago, that if you see something you like, and it's available at the time, grab it up as you never know what might happen down the line, the breeder may go under, they may get arrested, they might lose one or both of the parents of a cross, etc, etc..

I'm of the same philosophy as racerboy. Grab em while they're hot.

As far as Kali goes though, there's one at the compassion club that I'd describe as nice but really similar to the Jack. Definite fog associated with the high, but definitely sativa dominant. A very nice plant. Not exactly what I'm looking for, but tonnes of people love it.

Kali...my growing buddy grew it and three of us took some home...we all ended up passing out. It was a terrific high from what I remember LOL. If you are looking for a sativa...longer flowering periods....take a look at Malawi gold.
Sativas are cool, but right now I still enjoy NL and Kosher Kush

Ck out this thread:
https://www.rollitup.org/outdoor-growing/561571-holy-smoke-malawi-gold-outdoor.html

If this would be your first grow, I would advise growing out some bagseed instead of a heavily sativa, but you should buy them and hold on to them until you get the hang of it, sativas are un-paralled outdoors, if you want the strain then buy it, there isnt really an expiration date on seeds, I have been poping ones I got 5 years ago with no problem

Well I just completed my 4th grow so there is a lot I don't know..

I have never grown Kali Mist but went through several lbs a few years back when a buddy was running a perpetual with a great mother. Myself, and everyone I helped experience it, were very pleased with the high. A real connoisseur haze for sure. I have smoked plenty of other sativas in my time, some crosses, some new og super funk dunk whatever too lol....but the old strains like Kali Mist, Neville's Haze, and Super Silver haze are my favourite Sativas.

Back to KM, the high for me was always really soaring and fast. Ogevilgenius mentioned a fog with the high, that was true somewhat, but for me I specifically remember moments of clarity that led to spontanious ideas; get up and make red snapper with mango salsa(including the trip to the store for all the ingredients and being frustrated I could not find a ripe enough mango haha), take my dogs to the woods by my house and just explore with them off the leash and end up building a fire, or taking a girfriend at the time to the lake, smoke another J together, then finding a quiet area to have some outdoor and exposed sex. That get up and go high. Love it.

Not to mention the bag appeal of the bud, the smell is very unique and sharp. I hope you enjoy, once I have the space for sativas like that I will be buying several packs of KM to find the ultimate keeper.

-nuskool

racerboy71 said:

i agree with jogro of course

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Of course.

i've learned along time ago, that if you see something you like, and it's available at the time, grab it up as you never know what might happen down the line, the breeder may go under, they may get arrested, they might lose one or both of the parents of a cross, etc, etc..

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Why did you have to go and say this? You suck and I hate you. . .

Of course you're absolutely right. . .I just don't want to buy 50 packs of ceeds right now!

In the specific case of Kali Mist, that's a good example. Since the original award winning line came out Simon of Serious ceeds actually changed the makeup of Kali Mist.

He claims it was to reduce the flowering time, but its more likely because he lost access to the original parents. See here for some background: https://www.rollitup.org/breeders-paradise/527853-histori-kali-mist.html#post7425583

So if you wanted the "real" Kali Mist, well. . .you've missed it by more than a decade.

The current offering is probably still pretty good, though.

The New Jim Jones said:

there isnt really an expiration date on seeds, I have been poping ones I got 5 years ago with no problem

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Well, they don't last forever, that's for sure.

If kept dry and at room temp, they can last up to a decade or so, but you'll greatly lose viability past a few years.

If you keep them refrigerated, they can last a lot longer.

Supposedly they can last for decades, if they are properly frozen, but I can't give you too many specifics on how to do that.

Incidentally, see my grow journal below on a schwagg ceed I grew out from more than ten years ago.

nuskool89 said:

I have never grown Kali Mist but went through several lbs a few years back when a buddy was running a perpetual with a great mother. Myself, and everyone I helped experience it, were very pleased with the high. A real connoisseur haze for sure. I have smoked plenty of other sativas in my time, some crosses, some new og super funk dunk whatever too lol....but the old strains like Kali Mist, Neville's Haze, and Super Silver haze are my favourite Sativas.

Back to KM, the high for me was always really soaring and fast. Ogevilgenius mentioned a fog with the high, that was true somewhat, but for me I specifically remember moments of clarity that led to spontanious ideas; get up and make red snapper with mango salsa(including the trip to the store for all the ingredients and being frustrated I could not find a ripe enough mango haha), take my dogs to the woods by my house and just explore with them off the leash and end up building a fire, or taking a girfriend at the time to the lake, smoke another J together, then finding a quiet area to have some outdoor and exposed sex. That get up and go high. Love it.

Not to mention the bag appeal of the bud, the smell is very unique and sharp. I hope you enjoy, once I have the space for sativas like that I will be buying several packs of KM to find the ultimate keeper.

-nuskool

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Definitely a great plant worth trying. I will probably grow out a pack to see if I find something more my liking eventually. It just might take a decade or so.

Jogro said:

Of course.


Why did you have to go and say this? You suck and I hate you. . .

Of course you're absolutely right. . .I just don't want to buy 50 packs of ceeds right now!

In the specific case of Kali Mist, that's a good example. Since the original award winning line came out Simon of Serious ceeds actually changed the makeup of Kali Mist.

He claims it was to reduce the flowering time, but its more likely because he lost access to the original parents. See here for some background: https://www.rollitup.org/breeders-paradise/527853-histori-kali-mist.html#post7425583

So if you wanted the "real" Kali Mist, well. . .you've missed it by more than a decade.

The current offering is probably still pretty good, though.

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Then I can attest to the "current offering" being good because that must have been what my buddy grew, considering this was only four years ago now, he ordered several SS packs of KM and ran them all to find his keeper.

Jogro said:

Well, they don't last forever, that's for sure.

If kept dry and at room temp, they can last up to a decade or so, but you'll greatly lose viability past a few years.

If you keep them refrigerated, they can last a lot longer.

Supposedly they can last for decades, if they are properly frozen, but I can't give you too many specifics on how to do that.

Incidentally, see my grow journal below on a schwagg ceed I grew out from more than ten years ago.

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Scientists have sprouted seeds thousands of years old. They can be viable a very very long time. Of course chemical help is used (but not the kind you can't easily aquire yourself).

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Scientists have sprouted seeds thousands of years old. They can be viable a very very long time. Of course chemical help is used (but not the kind you can't easily aquire yourself).

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Well, under ideal conditions, *some* ceeds can remain viable that long.

That doesn't mean that MOST can, let alone most cannabis ceeds. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think anyone has ever managed to get a cannabis seed thousands of years old to sprout (though some such ceeds do still exist).

Empirically, there definitely is degradation of seed viability after a few years at room temperature, and there is a pretty steep drop off after ten years, even if the ceeds are kept cool.

Doesn't mean it doesn't pay to keep the ceeds, or course, just that if you're a hoarder you probably should at the very least refrigerate your ceeds, if not freeze them.

no clue said:

I have read lots and remain very curious about the highs people describe from kali mist and 8 mile high. Satori and western winds too. I live in a rural area and dont talk to anybody except my wife and you folks about MJ. So if I want to try something I have to grow it.which is cool. Just wondering if you folks who have grown and smoked some of these think it is worth the pursuit?

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I have no experience with the older version of Kali Mist but I can tell you that the SS kali mist beans I got 2 years ago were exactly what I was looking for. Energizing, positive and social high, clear, slightly euphoric, potent and long lasting with zero sleepy come down. Mine smells like lavender and spice when it grows and cures up to a lemon grass and spice type aroma. I'm a sativa guy and it's the best sativa I've smoked to date. It will get me more ripped than anything I've ever come across as the high seems to have a ceiling beyond what I'm comfortable exploring.

While I'd consider Kali to be stable and fairly uniform, there will be some slight variation in phenotpes in regards to the effect. My friend grows KM as well and his smokes a little stonier than mine as mine is crystal clear. His only goes 80 days where mine will go 100 days even (I also had '80 day phenos' but I liked the '100 day' better). Long flowering sativas are not all that easy to grow as many growers have a hard time keeping their plants green and healthy for just 60. The healthiest plant at harvest will yield your best smoke so if you're a fairly inexperienced grower, pick up a seed pack and save it for the day when you can do KM some justice.

I'll also add that I've not met anyone who does not like KM.

Kali Mist near harvest:





Dried flowers:

I've also been on the fence about Kali Mist for a while.

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/557393-kali-mist-old-school-weed.html

^^^ That has recently made up my mind, maybe it will inspire some others.

Glad to hear good things from HomeBrewer as well. (Being a scavenger among RIU, his threads are amongst my favorites to follow)

Yup if ya wanna learn how to grow or have a general idea,HB is the way to go!!

Looking at Homebrewers pics, I'm pretty sure I have only smoked the 70-80 day pheno (hence not so clear headed). His looks great though.

I'm on board with Home Brew here. Also, I wrote the post that Scotch linked in his post here. Kali is a really nice plant to have around. I definitely agree about the need to carefully assess each girl you get. They are realitively uniform in structure. I only saw 2 phenos, as far as looks go. The high is where you need focus your attention. In my case, I had 2 plants that took longer to finish, but the high just wasn't as nice as Shelly's. That I'm sure has as much to do with my own personal tastes as much as genetics. She's pretty forgiving in the grow department too, as far as I'm concerned. You can definitely fuck her up, but I think she'll perform for most folks with a reasonable amount of basic cultivation technique. To answer the original question-- Is she worth it?-- Yes my friend, she certainly is.