Lucius Vorenus
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Never heard that before. What would cause that?
Veg and Bloom Grow
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Never heard that before. What would cause that?
Alter Ego
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Cue, I am vey impressed with your growing abilities. Thank you for providing raw data and keeping your cool when other members (haters) were trying to rain on your parade. I have a tub of V+B hard water formula sitting around. Just can't decide if I want to use soil or straight coco. I am thinking about 50% coco and 50% EWC. What is your take on that if I were to use V+B from seed to harvest?
TIA,
-Alter
TIA,
-Alter
Lucius Vorenus
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Conclusion. This nute is a great BASE. Do not assume it is as complete as a 2 part and definitely don't think it can be used in Flower alone and grow big buds. Its a good BASE. If you go into it with that knowledge and plenty of beneficials to add during flower, you might be impressed.
Here is why I do like it. No longer need Cal MAg, no longer need Silica. For that reason alone, its my new favorite BASE nute for flower and veg.
Here is why I do like it. No longer need Cal MAg, no longer need Silica. For that reason alone, its my new favorite BASE nute for flower and veg.
Cuebossa
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I'd like to hear about what you find using additives with Veg+Bloom. I'm always looking for something new to try and am at a point where I think I'm done testing soilless medias and ready to try an additive or two.
Fwiw ProMix is my soilless media of choice. I'll be doing my testing from here out in Promix for consistency sake.
Fwiw ProMix is my soilless media of choice. I'll be doing my testing from here out in Promix for consistency sake.
Lucius Vorenus
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Promix is great. I personally use Sunshine Advanced #4 but i think they are both on par. I believe less is more so I just use a Mychorrizae (Great White) and Floralicious Plus as well as a Bloom Booster (MOAB). I feed carbs as well week 2-7. Sweet Raw.
Lucius Vorenus
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what is EWC?
CaliMackdaddy
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Earth worm castings
Lucius Vorenus
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ah gotcha. I always put a small amount ot EWC in my Sunshine Advanced #4 as well. Not sure if I get much benefit from it since I use synthetics but who knows.
CaliMackdaddy
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has a small ammount of N, but other then that if your not feeding beanies on a regular basis.. probably not.
Lucius Vorenus
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The longer im growing the more im learning whats most important rather than what nutrient is doing what etc, is Oxygen to the roots and the importance of it. Lots of Bacterias being added to the medium and running lower PPMs (800-1100 in flower). I also Feed, Feed, Water now and its doing us up right.
CaliMackdaddy
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Were all students of nature ;D
captainmorgan
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Day 46 of flower,I noticed a couple yellow spots along the sides of a few sugar leaves on the top half of a few buds and the rest are deep green.Been using only Veg+Bloom at 1.5 EC for probably 3 weeks and the only change was I applied some BMO super plant tonic in the last week.I've got 4 plants in scrog under T5 HO using 5 gal air pots with fox farm soil mix and noticed a growth spurt in the last week and I did a small flush a week ago and I give them molasses once a week.It's only noticeable on 6 or 8 flowers,any thoughts on this?
Fan leaves show mite damage,predators are working on that problem.
Fan leaves show mite damage,predators are working on that problem.
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TheEvilBanana
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Hey guys. I also saw a mag deficiency in week 3 of veg with V+B. I ended up adding 50 ppm of cal/mag to my res then added my V+B nutes up to the ppm I wanted. The dificency went away but next time I will try bumping up the PPMs as suggested by other V+B users. Otherwise they are doing great. 4 week veg produced 18-22 inch plants with topping, supercropping, and FIMing.
As far as amount needed. I have a 40 gallon res. I run R/O water from my filter which produces 0 ppm, ph of 6.1 water. I'm in week 1 of flower (just switched on halloween) and I'm feeding my plants at 600 ppm right now. I just changed my res last night and it took 11 teaspoons of V+B for r/o to get to 600 ppm. It brought my ph down to 5.4 so I added a little bit of up and I'm good to go.
I've been having issues connecting my camera to my computer but I'll put some pics up soon. I have 18 bananarama (banana Cush/trainwreck) under 2k hps in an ebb and flow system using rockwool cubes on a coco mat though I plan on switching mediums next round. I've found the rockwool holds a lot of salts and needs to be flushed quite a bit with V+B nutes. I'm annoyed I can't move them around. But that's a different issue. (user error in choosing my medium)
This is my first true hydro grow so I do not want to compare it with the results I've had with soil but I'm more than willing to share my experiences and results with veg and bloom. It seems to be working well but only time will tell.
As far as amount needed. I have a 40 gallon res. I run R/O water from my filter which produces 0 ppm, ph of 6.1 water. I'm in week 1 of flower (just switched on halloween) and I'm feeding my plants at 600 ppm right now. I just changed my res last night and it took 11 teaspoons of V+B for r/o to get to 600 ppm. It brought my ph down to 5.4 so I added a little bit of up and I'm good to go.
I've been having issues connecting my camera to my computer but I'll put some pics up soon. I have 18 bananarama (banana Cush/trainwreck) under 2k hps in an ebb and flow system using rockwool cubes on a coco mat though I plan on switching mediums next round. I've found the rockwool holds a lot of salts and needs to be flushed quite a bit with V+B nutes. I'm annoyed I can't move them around. But that's a different issue. (user error in choosing my medium)
This is my first true hydro grow so I do not want to compare it with the results I've had with soil but I'm more than willing to share my experiences and results with veg and bloom. It seems to be working well but only time will tell.
Lucius Vorenus
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Looks pretty Gucci. how much it cost? I get like $45 for 6.0cf of Sunshine Advanced
WattSaver
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It's not that cheap. It's the same price at my hydro shop as FFOF soil $14/bag.
It works well in my growing system. I veg in soil (2 to 3 qts) then transplant to either coco, or perlite hempy buckets. The basement mix seems to be a better feeding medium than FFoF soil, in my side by side tests with my normal fert program, I'm going to run clones of my current seed run next to compare V&B against my normal fert program.