Veg+Bloom Scam ?

semor90

semor90

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Hello Everyone,

So I have been doing some research on a good cheap nute I can use on my outdoor grow and I find a product everyone is talking about called veg+bloom .

I google veg+bloom, find 3 different forums (GC,RUI,THC Farmer). So It looks to me the authors of each thread(ill eagle, vodabone, Cuebossa) is the same person ranting about how "great this product is". The pictures all look like the same grow. And all their post on each web site is solely on their own post about veg+bloom.


Is Cuebossa working for veg+bloom? I'm sold that he is involved with marketing . It also looks like veg+bloom changed the name. Im not saying the product is a scam it just seems like Cuebossa is working for veg+bloom but legally cant tell us ?

So what does everyone think ?

Here are the 3 different forums I mentioned.

https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/veg-bloom-1-part-powder-in-socal-tap.44489/

https://www.rollitup.org/nutrients/513971-veg-bloom-all-phase-all.html

http://forum.grasscity.com/indoor-marijuana-growing/996302-hydroponic-research-veg-bloom-nutes.html
 
WaxxyNuggets

WaxxyNuggets

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Get a sample and try it your self... Got mine in the mail today :D, I saw his plants and decided to try my first 1 part. No reason in calling him out for working with the company.
 
semor90

semor90

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Well I just thought it was interesting when someone on THC Farmer caught him in a lie and he denied everything. He just seems too throw the sales man pitch. I would like more info on this product before I would think about testing it out. Ill just stick with subcools super soil for now.
 
WaxxyNuggets

WaxxyNuggets

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Heres a thread with other peoples plants, regardless of what happened with the poster your talking about with multiple threads on different sites

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=234171

Sub's super soil and veg+bloom are on two opposite sides of the spectrum when looking at plant nutrition. run a soilless side by side for your own amusement, the sample is free....
 
semor90

semor90

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WaxxyNuggets said:
Heres a thread with other peoples plants, regardless of what happened with the poster your talking about with multiple threads on different sites

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=234171

Sub's super soil and veg+bloom are on two opposite sides of the spectrum when looking at plant nutrition. run a soilless side by side for your own amusement, the sample is free....
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but this dude is on EVERY SINGLE THREAD having to do with Veg+Bloom. That link you posted check out netprophet. This dude clamis he's some novice grower and doesn't know shit about growing buds and this is what he's growing with this product. It all just seems too shady and their zero information on the web site.

These plants are from the same grow and 2 different sites. Just seems kinda weird. I thought I would post what i've found using goggle.

THC Farmer

ICMAG
 
semor90

semor90

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when someone post shit like this Netprophet

"I know in soil you can get 200+ gallons out of 1lb. like I said, I am not a very experienced grower but blew away my verteran grower buddy who grows with Maxibloom. I run a few of his cuts so I know genetics aren't a factor."

and the only reason they are on these communities is to sell/advertise this product. I don't like that shit and I hope everyone can see what's really going on.
 
kilo810

kilo810

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LOL dude you seem so paranoid about this. Just get a 6oz sample and run it. LOLI visited the company site and really the company has nothing to gain by lying to people. they would go out of business. Its formulated for cannabis as a 1 part all phase. I have one guy from the local hydro store (one of about 30 now LOL) that is running this stuff and he likes it. I think Im gonna visit his site soon to see what the fuss is all about. Ill let you know.
 
kilo810

kilo810

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BTW apparently this stuff has been around for a minute, considering those post are from AUG 2011. Im sure that if the product was crap they wouldn't be around anymore. take in to consideration the competition of other nute companies.
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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Remove the tinfoil hat bro, it's friggin' plant food. It has a guaranteed analysis and contains mineral salts that your plants can use for growth. Save your investigative skills for the newbs who endorse the 100ml bottles of snake oil at $120. Now that is a scam.
 
jimmy1life

jimmy1life

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Hopefully the product is what they say its then. Hell renameing jacks classoc who knows? Ifs it proforms good I think it'd help simplify things forsure.as long my strains don't stretch to bad cause I know there frosty. That dark green color I don't like see no way to lower the nitrogen Idk I got a sample coming hell the wife could use this lmao
 
Kite High

Kite High

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semor90 said:
Well I just thought it was interesting when someone on THC Farmer caught him in a lie and he denied everything. He just seems too throw the sales man pitch. I would like more info on this product before I would think about testing it out. Ill just stick with subcools super soil for now.
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that statement says alot
 
PetFlora

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Semor90: Whether your sleuthing is correct or not... You can go back several years into my threads and journals both here and ICmag to see what I used in the past- Botanicare/FF/and for ~ 1 year now, DM Gold- the full line. It is pricey, but I was happy with the results, BUT, compared to what?

Before I decided to go switch from the full line to DM ONE Grow for both veg and flower (but supplement during flower with Potash+), I subbed to a lengthy DIY Nutrient thread. I learned that the actual differences between veg and bloom nutes are minute to the plants' development.

One person chimed in that if you have a proper veg NPK ratio, you don't even need a bloom formula! Simply by increasing the veg ppm the PK are increased sufficiently to cause sexing/flowering: I saw proof first hand during my current journal. When I exceeded 400 ppms during mid veg using only DM Gold Grow A/B, and without changing the light schedule, within 7 days the plants showed their sex. The plants were too small for this, so I dropped ppms back under 400 and sexing stopped!

My current journal started as a comparison of HPA v my DIY 21st Century F & D. Later, I was forced to toss together a quasi-bubble system to finish a clone that was in the F & D rig, but the space was being overtaken by that plant.

In just 2 weeks in my F & D the buds getting Veg + BLOOM nutes are 3-4Xs bigger: In one week in the quasi-bubbler, I am getting vastly superior results to DM Gold ONE Grow + Potash+. Trich production is easily 5Xs greater with V & B. I ordered a pound yesterday and will be replacing DM in my 3rd system to see whether it responds at this ate date.

It is quite possible that I simply do not have the DM ONE Grow+ Potash+ ratios dialed in, so there is that.

2 days ago I increased Potash+ (no obvious increase in trichs as of this morning) and may need to bump it again, but damn V & B is so easy, and a lot less expensive. I have a RO system so I do not need to pay shipping for water

You can follow my journal to see. New pics tomorrow
 
squarepush3r

squarepush3r

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but seriously, they seem to be the only ones claiming that there is no need for different phase of nutrients, and the nutrient needs of a vegetative growing plant are identical to those of a flowering plant.
 
jimmy1life

jimmy1life

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I think the feeding chart has u add more for blooming then when in veg. Sounds to good yo be true I know it. But if it has them blowing up I might use the hell out of it I use bout gallon a day so it'd last for ever LOL. Less bottles is nice someday maybe I'll try connoisseur or sensitive bloom. They all work they all last me forever. You like it or not time will tell.
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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squarepush3r said:
but seriously, they seem to be the only ones claiming that there is no need for different phase of nutrients, and the nutrient needs of a vegetative growing plant are identical to those of a flowering plant.
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In dirt, I use a lot more 'grow' than I do 'bloom' in flower. Then again, I like to keep all my leaves ;). There are others who swear by the 3-1-2 NPK ratio from start to finish, something to think about.
 
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