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jigfresh

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There is no way I can think of to get a bobcat into my yard. Otherwise I'd do it in a second. I'm not worried so much about leveling things... it's not that much dirt to move (famous last words). It's the damn footings I'm not looking forward to digging. 21 inch deep, 15 inch wide trench for 56 linear feet. I've found how invalueable a pick is. Really breaks up the soil with minimal effort. And I've already been hitting clay. :(

Got the other 3 stumps out. I think I'll take out two more and then level some shit. Also watching the F1 race. An IPL match. and the movie version of A Mid Summers Night Dream. Damn Keanu Reeves is a bad actor. lol I still love him though.
 

jigfresh

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Pretty much. It goes dirt, concrete bed (footing), concrete blocks filled with concrete, then the wood on top of that. So I guess you could say the footing is the foundation. But really the footing is part of the foundation. The foundation of the foundation, but the stem walls will make the complete foundation. Stem walls can be made of blocks/ bricks, or poured concrete. They go into the ground so there is no wood to earth contact. They rise up 8" min from the dirt so the wood is all clear from contact with dirt.

So there will be a short little wall in the shape of a rectangle the walls will be placed on. :)

Here's some pics (note: effort will be put into finding laborers that look as awesome as the ones in the pics)

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Thundercat

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Man chaka if I could have payed for a bobcat I would have, it would have been cake to use there too cus it came right off his driveway. Sadly at the time money so non existant, the building was already getting built with a lowes credit card and free labor. However it seriously would have been the best money I could have spent.

Jiig rather then putting in a full foundation like that have you considered just pouring 4-6 footers elevated out of the ground and a wood floor on top of those. You could dig the back of the hill out just a bit to lower it in some, and use concrete tubes to pour elevated footers. Then just set the joists and floor ontop, or better yet bolt them to the top!


Might save you a ton of digging, and money on the foundation and block and everything.
 
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HydroGp

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Just wanna say i love GANJA! People might get the impression this is not a grow thread ;) Great pictorials and explanations. Thundercat im using that for my 10foot dog/drying house lol ;)
Healthy baby!
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Im having so much sex right now, cause the girl wants that baby. Im looking forward to some lone wanking.
20th we will now if we will have a baby :) 4/20 baby party or 4/20 party.
 

DST

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sounds like Thundercat just saved you a whole load of work. Surely that look would fit in with your house as well?
 

jigfresh

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I do like that idea and will have to consider it. The one issue is wanting my room as 'low' as possible. It will be directly above the rest of my house and I would prefer to keep it as unimposing as possible. So 2 or 3 feet really make a difference. I actually started leveling it out while I was outside. Got all the trees out and took the top down about a foot. Not bad for one dude a pick, a shovel, and a rake. Not to mention some Dog Kush to power me along.

I'll think about that though TC. I love all the ideas. Such a shame we all don't live on the same block. :( At least we hang out on the same website. I guess that will have to do.

And jojo... that ain't my house bro. It would be nice to have something that large. I don't want to complaing though. And damn man... I just knew you had shit figured out, just didn't know why I thought that. When you mentioned your girl bringing home some candy I knew I was right. Nice... real nice.

I'll snap a pic of the back.

EDIT: thinking about it for a second... maybe I can do half stem wall and half pillars. The back that's below grade has to have a retaining wall at some point, but the front doesn't neccesarily need to have it. Hmm. But then again a stem wall seems more secure for earthquakes... and the room will be right above me where I sleep on a hill.
 

jojodancer10

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Just pulling your chain jigs with the house thing and all. But its nice to see a family member doing big things and everyone pull with ideas.two heads are better than one.as far as my girl and the candy its not all fun and games all the time.had to draw the line when she bring home twins.lol one stick to fill 9 holes that's a lot of work and buds
 

supchaka

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I'd definitely design a grow area into that structure man! Ur old lady would be happy to get the closet back, it's a win win :)
 

Thundercat

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What I was pictureing jig is perhaps splitting the grade, and digging down the rear and setting it maybe 6 inchs off the ground on the read pillers, and then the front would sit like maybe 1.5-2 feet off the ground. You would need a simple retaining wall in the rear to hold the dirt back, but you might be able to build that alot cheaper out of wood, or railroad ties maybe. I think if you had the building bolted to the piller like my first picture it would prolly be really stable in case of quakes or anything. I think when you pour those pillers they dig the bottom of the whole out larger to create an anchor in the ground. How long are you making the building? A footer on each corner would prolly be fine if it wasn't to big, or if its gonna be a bit larger you could do 6 of them and I doubt it would go anywhere.
 

jigfresh

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I was gonna split the grade anyhow. No way I'm digging all that out. Just bring some of the uphill to the downhill. Check it out so far. The building is gonna be 12' x 16'.

I found a couple big rocks. That's a foot ruler between them. And yeah... it's super foggy here today.

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Thundercat

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Those are pretty good size rocks. Looks like your making great progress man! You're way more motivated then I have been in a long time. I was glad I got out for a nice walk today.
 

theloadeddragon

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Now you've got me all excited! I knew there was a reason I logged in today.... This is what I have been up to in my absence... well these projects and many others. climbing trees today has me beat. Im due a couple days off. I hope to catch up on a few threads including this one.

this was about a year ago, used railroad ties to do a spiralling staircase, wall is 7 1/2 feet at its tallest. Lots of planters and terraces involved with this project.
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And these were over the last couple of weeks. Still working on these around the house projects.... paying work draws me away...

These face stones are HUGE and HEAVY, at 100 lbs per cubic foot of solid compact stone, some of these weigh over 750 lbs +.
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This is whats behind the two pictures above. Its free standing, dry stack. I can dance and jump around on the top of this. What you see in the picture below is going to be covered by 2 or three larger face stones like in the picture above, a veneer of sorts.
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We moved and my daughter complained of missing our flower garden and trees we had worked hard to put in... her little pouty face drove me to do this, and now every smile makes it worth it.... that and its nice to have and look at.
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I LOVE stonework Jig, looks like you will need a retaining wall, and if you do build up the soil level on the downhill side than you will need another there as well. Especially if you plan on putting a structure in the levelled space. Now I gotta go back and do some reading and find out whats really going on... haha, sorry... I saw your pics as soon as I logged in and couldnt contain my excitement! I hope you enjoy it as much as I do.
 

MrSkyhighatrist

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Now you've got me all excited! I knew there was a reason I logged in today.... This is what I have been up to in my absence... well these projects and many others. climbing trees today has me beat. Im due a couple days off. I hope to catch up on a few threads including this one.

this was about a year ago, used railroad ties to do a spiralling staircase, wall is 7 1/2 feet at its tallest. Lots of planters and terraces involved with this project.
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And these were over the last couple of weeks. Still working on these around the house projects.... paying work draws me away...

These face stones are HUGE and HEAVY, at 100 lbs per cubic foot of solid compact stone, some of these weigh over 750 lbs +.
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This is whats behind the two pictures above. Its free standing, dry stack. I can dance and jump around on the top of this. What you see in the picture below is going to be covered by 2 or three larger face stones like in the picture above, a veneer of sorts.
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We moved and my daughter complained of missing our flower garden and trees we had worked hard to put in... her little pouty face drove me to do this, and now every smile makes it worth it.... that and its nice to have and look at.
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I LOVE stonework Jig, looks like you will need a retaining wall, and if you do build up the soil level on the downhill side than you will need another there as well. Especially if you plan on putting a structure in the levelled space. Now I gotta go back and do some reading and find out whats really going on... haha, sorry... I saw your pics as soon as I logged in and couldnt contain my excitement! I hope you enjoy it as much as I do.
thats a lot of community service man.
 

jigfresh

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Hey there Skyhighatrist. I saw my Psychiatrist yesterday, so it's perfect timing for you so stop by. Been working outside today and having a good time. I think things are level, or as level as they are gonna get. Think I'll plan the rest of the day and maybe get to digging out the footings on Thursday. Tomorrow Im going to hang out with my parolee buddy. Get this... he already has 2 jobs! Fucking badass. His parole is an absolute joke though. The lady is just not around. He has seen his agent ONE TIME since march 26 when he paroled. His stay ran out yesterday and they wouldn't call back for anything to either give him more money to stay there, or let him go somewhere else. The officer of the day told him he could always sleep in front of the office... that's the only approved address. He got approved for general releif which should kick in another week from now. The supervisor at the parole office just ok'd 2 more weeks at the shithole he's at. He should be getting pay checks by then so hopefully everything works out.

As for baby. 22 weeks today. Not too shabby huh. We had an ultrasound today, and everything looks good. Baby is good, cervix is good. It's all good. We have another ultrasound on Thursday. And it's official, we are changing over to the perinatal unit.

Hope everyone is doing alright. :)
 

supchaka

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Hey I saw a psychiatrist yesterday too! We're all mental! He said the world would suck without people like me whilst tossing around words like bipolar and manic, although I didn't ever get a written diagnosis! Something was wrong with the printers?! Lol whatever, his prescription pad still worked.
 
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