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jigfresh

jigfresh

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Thundercat said:
It does sound like exciting times man!! Its gonna be crazy how fast she grows, thats why these clothes I packed are all like 18 month I think so they will fit :). I really am gonna get this box to ya, its been sitting next to my TV since we moved into this house :facepalm:.

Hope the visit with your buddy goes well, it does sound like he's doing well.

Well offf to the store.

Peace
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You better hurry up with those 18 mo clothes haha... she's getting big fast. Pretty much out of all her stuff she was wearing before. Crazy how fast it happens.

Visit with my friend went great. He brought his best friend and I absolutely approved. I'm really excited about the direction he is heading in. They were talking about being roommates later on. Super stoked for him. Oh, and he's got his Xbox going and on the network and everything. Haha, he's like a normal guy... with a ankle bracelet thingy.

supchaka said:
You can imagine the kinda shit I use facetime for eh? LOL
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Dude seriously, I can't imagine a lot of things you would do with facetime. All of them hilarious and most make me blush. Hahaha... I would ask if you were joking, but I'm sure your not. Fun times in your house.

Don Gin and Ton said:
spurs and aresnal are going to be tough competition for all this season. man u are on the wain and city will have a wobble but i reckon ozil and arsenal will lift it this year.

sounds like life is just peachy for you n the family Jig!
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I'm hoping the spurs do it not just cuz their my side, but cuz I'd have a big vacation fund. haha. :) Is newcastle gonna be flirting with the championship again?

SomeGuy said:
Jig, We should do a holiday thingy... that would be fun. :) Plus I will be restocked..LOL

~SG
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That would be fun to have a christmas bud swap. I should be nice and stocked by then too.

whodatnation said:
You know,,, Im kind of excited to see the flooded tube back up,,, or just some good ol fashion Jig hydro. Im sorry soil didnt turn out to be your thing, but at least you can say youv really did try to make it work, bravo... maybe learned a thing or two that can add and apply to the rest of your growing knowledge.

One thing I will always be envious over in regards to hydro is veg time... Maybe, just maybe,,, I can find a way to veg synthetically and flower organically.
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I think I feel the same as you about the whole fiasco. I'm glad I gave it a go, learned a lot. Learned what not to do a lot, haha. I'm positive I 'could' do soil well... but I 'could' do a lot of stuff in life. I 'could' get a 9 to 5 job too. Boooooo... haha. Anyways, yeah, soil and me aren't made for each other, at least not right now. I haven't written it off. I'm actually excited to try it again, and do it well. Just not now.

I'm stoked at the prospect of happy beautiful plants that are blowing up and having to be cut and trimmed back. I can see why soil peeps think us hydro folks are crazy pulling leaves... but shit. I could count the leaves on my soil girls. My hydro girls have thousands of leaves it seems. Just crazy plant matter everywhere. Fat stalks, fat buds, heavy yeilds, faster veg, faster flower, less work (in my world), cleaner, cheaper (if you're a tool like me). It's just a no brainer. Will miss the taste, and knowing I'm not using chemical fertilsers, but I will have to deal.

It will be awesome to have a super full closet with giant buds again. All the newbies will see why people think I can grow. hahaha. I swear I can grow... really... I can. lol

whodatnation said:
Iv never done hempy, but Im gonna voice my opinion on it anyway lol I think a recirculating like he had (or my old one) is just about the easiest way to go in hydro.
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I think it's the easiest way as well. I feel completely comforable leaving the setup for a week completely alone, even in flower. I did leave it alone for 14 days once. The door to the closet was never opened, and everything was fine... except the plants grew too much.

Javadog said:
The problem is that when I water my hempys by just dumping some
water/nutes into the pots, as the fluid all runs right to the bottom.

So, I have been using my wand sprayer to spray the solution over
the surface of the perlite. I pump up the sprayer very hard, and it
does not take very long.

....but this makes for a pot that, once it starts to run-off, runs off
for a very, very long time.

Good stuff all the same....do have a thread BTW. :0)
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That's a great idea JD. I honestly have wondered about that for a long time. Even with my soil I wonder about how moisture 'would' get to the plants in rain, just slowly getting things wet, not dumping on them. I like the sprayer Idea.

About your thread, you are welcome to post all the info you want right here. Or were you inviting me/ us to come check you out?

SomeGuy said:
Jig told me about the chem taste... I dont ever taste that in mine. (and didnt in his) Maybe it is the volcano I use to vape? I do use final phase as a flushing agent the last week of flower to remove any nutrient build up in the medium...

Maybe jig will chyme in... I wondered if the chem taste existed in my sour bubble for him??? never asked...LOL
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It's not so much a chem taste as an artificial taste. Like you said, not sure it comes out in the volcano.

Your stuff tasted about halfway between my hydro stuff and my soil stuff. Closet to the soil, but not all the way there. :) Had a lovely smell/ taste. I miss the smoke. Was very lovely.

whodatnation said:
There was no real medium in his system, that takes out allot there. With a big enough res on a recirculating system (someone who knows what they're doing) could leave the system for possibly weeks at a time. Plus it gives you a WATERFALL! I also miss that about my old system,,, fukin soothing ass waterfall.

edit: Hmmm not to mention its probably gives more explosive growth as well.
Have you tried both?
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HAha... again I agree, lol. I don't know if flooded tubes give more explosive growth than fast recirculating stuff, the under current or whatever, with the super water pumps blasting water all around buckets... but that stuff sounds intense to setup and maintain. The waterfall is the best part. Fucking soothing ass waterfall... yep. :) I really really miss the waterfall. And it's right in the bedroom... really peaceful.

SomeGuy said:
JD,

It is ok for the water to go to bottom. Better to water quick as it sucks air into the medium and prevents rot. The medium will wick the water up throughout the bucket in the proper amount. Just make sure when you first transplant to wet the medium completely. Ive been growing hempy for about 5 years now exclusively. You can see in my system that I never move the plants. They just have drain lines attached to the bucket. Here is how I pack my bucket:

-Hole with elbow to barb connected and glued in place. (screen over the hole)
-hydroton on the bottom covering the screen covered hole/barb fitting
-line the whole bucket on top of hydroton with landscape fabric.
-fill with perlite
-done

The hydroton makes a rez in the bottom to hold the water. The barb allows me to hook tube to it and direct the buckets run-off. The landscape fabric is porous but keeps the perlite from plugging up my drain system. I go alternate feed-water and it happens every 2-3days as they dry out. However... you can safely water hempy any time without drowning the plants. Hope that helps...
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Sounds so cool. I don't know that i'll ever try it, but it sounds fascinating. And I'm not being sarcastic even if it sounds like it.

SomeGuy said:
I tried DWC and it is explosive growth. However... it was alot of work and equipment to change 20gl of water at a time and then deal with the water balance etc.. For me... it was not worth the work and cost. Perlite is 19$ per 3 cu ft bag and I dont even PH my water so I have no gear except a ppm meter to deal with and work maybe 3 hours a week on my grow tops.
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I don't use a PH meter. Nor a PPM meter. I might dump the rez twice during the whole grow, and when I do it, there is only about 2 gallons in the bottom of the thing. I only mix nutes once a week at the very most. More often every 10-14 days. The biggest thing I do with the rez is dump a few gallons in every few days. I do things very very simplified. I like spending my time working on the plants, training them and just loving them. :)

And of course I love building the setups too.

whodatnation said:
We are all good here :-) both of y'all made good points! Water temp is crucial! And I always went big on water/air pumps.
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I've gone big on pretty much every piece of equipment I've bought. Overkill FTW!

HydroGp said:
Great evening somehow. Where Jig at? Babysitting again? Will that kid ever grow up and take care of itself. LOL You know im kidding remember every precious moment and hang on to them. We were kids but one day we grew up and took off. I know my mom had a hard time :) Have to get to bed. God aften til alle.
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Parents in law are still visiting and I havne't had much computer time. Annoying to say the least. I miss you guys and My hands hurt from typing right now... would rather spread out all the words over a few posts... but there are still here till sunday, sigh, haha. They are helping a lot... just hard to have peeps in your house everyday all day. grrr.

Javadog said:
As I am perusing the various methods of growing, I expect to try RDWC soon,
if not next, and I am sure that I will want to get away with just this level of
maintenance as well, in time. I will likely start taking all kinds of pH and PPM,
and TDO readings. LOL, I have the meters. <;0)

JD
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You don't 'have' to make it complicated JD. You can, and might get better results, just make sure not to turn yourself off from DWC by making it too much work. (should take my own advice regaurding soil)

Javadog said:
The TDO meter is nutso expensive.

I ordered a pH pen....a good one, but they sent a TDO instead.

I complained. Then I checked the price of what I received and
how it might become something that I needed. I waited, got no
response, and bought another Blue Pen.

I am better tooled than skilled, but better a good start I suppose. :0)

JD
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I love that story. Really awesome when things work out like that. Like, "Yeah... I'm just going to walk away quietly now."

whodatnation said:
Oooooo man hahaha that's great! Hahhaha good score JD!

ps: the great jig and I use the same tri meter, so yeah, take that.
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Ha, that trimeter of mine is under the deck collecting pine needles. The ph part broke, then I left it out in the rain a couple times. I'm so careless sometimes. Speaking of which... in the past 24 hours I have both dropped Hannah on her head, and clipped off the tip of her finger. Niether was anywhere near as bad as it sounds. More like bumped her head, and pinched her finger... but fuck me... I was not happy with myself to say to least. Like really really upset with myself.

Bobotrank said:
Love yous guys. I'm still here. Just been kinda overwhelmed as of late. Trying to get shit together. New grow coming soon... By end of Oct me thinks. Hope everyone is doing well. Just trying to not be stressed out these days : / Deep breath. Bong rip. Back to work. peace.
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Love you Bobo. I hope things get easier for you man. Good luck with the new grow. Let us know if we can help, or you can just vent.

whodatnation said:
We love you too bobo! I hope life smooths out some for you brother. Good to see ya around.

Our buddy Jig is fine hes also just busy with life and such with a superstar baby :-)

HHB!
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Yep, like he said... just busy. I miss you guys but glad you are keeping the thread alive, and actually about growing for once. I like it. GOnna start a new journal when the new grow is here. So enjoy this one while you can.

SomeGuy said:
Superstar! LOL! Hannah is a great little bundle of joy... so damn cute. Just couldnt resist the superstar... :-)

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I love Molly Shannon. :)
 
Smoothkicksandsmoke

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I kept wondering...where's jig. lol. Man don't worry and fret too much. Babies, kids in general are gonna get bumps and bruises. Just don't let her roll off the changing table like my mom did with me. Explains a lot huh? hahahah.
 
supchaka

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When my youngest son was like 5 I left him in the "care" of his 18 year old brother. I dont remember for how long I was gone but they were fucking around and the little one took a dive into the dresser. Got 12 staples in the back of his head. Ohhh I was so fucking mad.

Random I know... I have so much more but that just popped into my head when I thought of child rearing.

SHIT! I just remembered just last week the little fucker stuck a pair of tweezers into the wall outlet! He's almost 10! We dont have the little plug blockers anymore! He blew the breaker and melted the tweezers, said he didnt get zapped at all. Dont know how he didnt feel a thing! Another one of those so mad yet scared moments. Usually when my kids scare me through some way that could hurt them, I come unglued on them. Its a reaction I cant control, there is a .01 second where I assess their health and if we're not going to the hospital, its time for an earful!

So yeah... Im pretty sure he isnt gonna play with tweezers anymore.
 
Javadog

Javadog

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We survive things that we never imagined we could or would.

Along with Terror, goes Disgust....

I recall realizing, as I stood, holding a cloth under a stream of water,
worrying out the dookie with my fingertip, that I had "arrived".

Rage on loving father!

JD
 
DST

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Sometimes I am a bit slow, I only found out the other day when reading something what Heath Robinson actually is.....he was an illustrator and spawned the term - Heath Robinson Arrangement, which if you look in the Urban Dictionary means the following:
Adj: An invention, machine or process that is makeshift, fragile, poorly engineered or overly elaborate.

William Heath Robinson (1872-1944) was a British Cartoonist well known for humourous illustrations of fantasical inventions involving large numbers of components, often in order to acheive a very simple purpose.
Eg) "My new customised mousetrap, made from the contents of a kitchen cupboard, string, sticky tape and old lawnmower parts was finally complete. It did look a bit Heath Robinson, but it might just work."

Just saying.....
 
Don Gin and Ton

Don Gin and Ton

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the Japanese have gameshows devoted to the next step to heath robinson, rude goldberg machines. like a thousand + different processes usually to do something daft like boil ramen noodles. i love watching them.

[video=youtube_share;1kvdq8cRNBM]http://youtu.be/1kvdq8cRNBM[/video]
 
jigfresh

jigfresh

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Afternoon? It's only 9:30 am!!! haha. Ain't time zone fun?

It's still a bit early and I've already done a full days work. Fall officially showed up last night/ today. IT's cold and wet. Had to put everything away before it was ruined. Really need to get the walls up on the building. Grrrr...I lag.

Hope you are well TC... ain't seen you around much, but that is probably a good thing. Getting things done?

EDIT: Forgot to say. that video is epic! I loved mouse trap as a kid. Never actually played the game, just set it up and watch it go for hours. That's a super version for sure.
 
Don Gin and Ton

Don Gin and Ton

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Man I've made smaller no where near as technical versions with marbles. Super fun dude.

Looking forward to seeing you back on your hydro game bro;)
 
whodatnation

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Last time I left I remember you said the walls were up but got rained on? So im guessing you had to take them down and are putting it back up then? SOB!
 
jigfresh

jigfresh

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Sorry... the end walls on the outside of the attic still aren't up. Meaning the exterior siding. Last time there was no shingles on the roof... water got behind the drywall, had to air those out, along with the insulation. Alls well inside, just need to put up those walls soon. It's somewhat weather proof with the house wrap up... but not enough for all winter. :)

I'm going out there now to try to get some work done. (he says)
 
Javadog

Javadog

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Yeah, it was a sign on the wall at his work.

He added "What you're doing", "Everything", and "A Joint".

What we in the business world call a "process improvement" IMHO.

JD
 
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