Vertical Scrog LED Closet Grow || Flooded Tube/ NFT || 450w - Headband - 2’ x 3’

Are these LEDs going to produce fat, sticky buds?

  • The buds are going to be amazing and you'll wonder why anyone uses HIDs.

    Votes: 18 19.1%

  • The buds will be good, and the yield will be good compared to the power used.

    Votes: 33 35.1%

  • The buds are going to be fluffy and weak and you'll wonder why anyone flowers with LEDs.

    Votes: 10 10.6%

  • Why not just wait and see?

    Votes: 33 35.1%
  • Total voters
    94
  • Poll closed .
supchaka

supchaka

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They're getting the angry spider look! That's what I call the crazy veggers. Oh I found the tops to all of your plants too! They were in my closet :) rooted and ready to go for the next round
 
jigfresh

jigfresh

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I don't think I mentioned it here. What's in my tank to get those beautiful roots:

Tap Water
DutchMaster Grow A+B
DM Zone
GenHydro pH Down

I swear by the DH Zone man... it works wonders.
 
Javadog

Javadog

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How often do you exchange the water?

How do you do that? Pump?

Great stuff. Hydro is out there for me, but will happen.

JD
 
jigfresh

jigfresh

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With this little DWC they are in I change the water every 7-10 days. It's usually used mostly up by then. To change it I just take the whole thing out and bring it to the bathtub which is about 5 feet away. When full it has 4 gallons, so any less and it's not Too heavy. At least for a young back. It's easy enough to put a water pump in with the cord hanging out. When you want to change it, just plug in the pump and run it to a bucket or all the way to a drain. That's one of the reasons I love the tube set up is the tank is totally separate from the roots, so I can mess around in there and not mess with the roots.
 
jojodancer10

jojodancer10

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Got a few questions about that light.if one light don't work can you change the bulb? How long the light last? If something happens to the light can you take it back to the store or is it internet sale only.are the buds tight? Will buds be big like a 1000wat hps
 
jigfresh

jigfresh

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These are almost all things we are going to find out with this grow. I'm not sure about LED's and how long they last... anyone got input on that? I don't think you can change things, think it's a send back for a new one type deal. These guys are new so they are only on the internet right now. They got a 5 year warranty.

No idea on tight buds... that's the point of this grow to see if these things can grow decent buds.
 
jojodancer10

jojodancer10

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Did my first breeding with moonshine and a male from kens.the ken male smelled like a dead cat.so I breed him. Seeds gem and again the smell was strong for seeds.I'm loving it and I think I'm on to something jig
 
Javadog

Javadog

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These are indeed all the things that we will see fleshed out here.

As to life, I am sure that it was one of the selling points of LEDs,
their lifespan.

Good stuff.

JD
 
supchaka

supchaka

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Led are supposed to last like 50000 hours with only like a 10% degradation. Their high initial cost is supposed to be overcome by never buying replacement bulbs and lower power consumption. I've yet to see an led grow that truly blew me away. But they are almost always journals done by some noobs that fucked something up somewhere along the way. There's been literally 2 guys I've seen with start to finish led journals that were impressive but they were pulling some pretty heavy wattage still.
 
budbro18

budbro18

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supchaka said:
Led are supposed to last like 50000 hours with only like a 10% degradation. Their high initial cost is supposed to be overcome by never buying replacement bulbs and lower power consumption. I've yet to see an led grow that truly blew me away. But they are almost always journals done by some noobs that fucked something up somewhere along the way. There's been literally 2 guys I've seen with start to finish led journals that were impressive but they were pulling some pretty heavy wattage still.
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Ive got one runnin i plan to finish several times! haha

As for LEDs they also throw such little heat that i already know im going to be using at least 1/2 as much electricity from my AC. Ive already taken out almost 100w worth of fans i previously needed for cooling my CMH/HPS lights.

I recently took out an intake fan i had hooked up to the window because it used to have to cool my hot 400w and 600w ballasts on top of my 400w cmh bulb.

And its still almost too cold for my liking in there.



Ive always felt like heat and spectrum was the main reason people switched.

Everyone knows a "300w" panel that is claimed to replace a 1000w isnt going to do that so those claims get disregarded.

But with the same 1000w of power, replacing it with leds can get you the same or better yield and use less money on cooling your room down.
 
jojodancer10

jojodancer10

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I was looking at the web page jig got his light from. Hell I'm thinking about 2 of them but I'll wait to see if jigs get 2 thumbs up first b4 I kick out 1200$
 
Mohican

Mohican

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I tried a Kessil Magenta for my whole closet. I had root problems and I supplemented the light with CFLs. The Veg phase went great but the flowers were crap from the root issue.

I reduced the air bubbles and let the res get too warm.


Veg:








Flower:










Roots:











Cheers,
Mo
 
jigfresh

jigfresh

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Hello xfgngfnjian. Fun name. :) Welcome.

Mo, that should come with a warning. Nasty stuff.

Bassman, no idea on the zone chloramine stuff. Possibly?

Tubes are in the closet... hopefully the plants will be soon too.
 
ghb

ghb

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gonna be awesome jig, i predict lots of dank.

flip them sooner rather than later jig, we are all dying to see led buds here! that and i have a feeling they will take off once they go into the tubes.
 
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