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I replaced my 600w hps in my 4x4 with 2 of the 305w panels equaling 610 watts in my 4x4. Not sure what the recommended area is but this should work fine for me.

Are they actually pulling 300 watts or is it like 100 3 watt chips? I love my kill-a-watt!

supchaka said:

Are they actually pulling 300 watts or is it like 100 3 watt chips? I love my kill-a-watt!

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I wish i lived close to you so i could borrow it.

bassman999 said:

My res (since its winter) doesnt get past 66*F.
I really cant figure why I am having issues???
I have stones and Zone and the roots smell like sliced potatoes still at least toward the wool since I cant pull em all out for fear of tearing them out.

I asked my daughter, and she said res smells like gasoline lol.

Oh and some guy.
I am high around the kids all the time, but dont let em see me smoke either.

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hey when you mix and add nutes smell it, does it smell similar? maybe let the ppm get real low and treat with h2o2 also that will help your roots and quality of res. if it has a gas smell then i would even consider changing it. that is the life of your plants. today im changing my water and and adding h2o2 gonna do that every water change and manually water them with it also. i think i might have to take a plant apart ( slowly remove her from the soil) and see whats up with 1 of mine the new growth is still yellowish from when my ph got way low. Im gonna bake the rest of my soil to destroy all nutes in it. give her fresh soil with nothing in it and see how she does.
love and peace

budbro18 said:

I replaced my 600w hps in my 4x4 with 2 of the 305w panels equaling 610 watts in my 4x4. Not sure what the recommended area is but this should work fine for me.

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300 actual watts for 2x2 is good so 610 for 4x4 is perfect. are yours 3 watt diodes or 5 watt diodes? i want 5 watt diodes so when they run at 70 percent they put out 3 watts each. oh i messaged terpinator asked for a sample and they are sending me 1 qt free to test enough for 4 plants from flower till bloom. i love free and then i can see the diff it makes if any.
peace and love

DCobeen said:

300 actual watts for 2x2 is good so 610 for 4x4 is perfect. are yours 3 watt diodes or 5 watt diodes? i want 5 watt diodes so when they run at 70 percent they put out 3 watts each. oh i messaged terpinator asked for a sample and they are sending me 1 qt free to test enough for 4 plants from flower till bloom. i love free and then i can see the diff it makes if any.
peace and love

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Im not sure because theyre multi chips so they have several diodes per actual chip either 3 or 5 watt im not positive.

DCobeen said:

hey when you mix and add nutes smell it, does it smell similar? maybe let the ppm get real low and treat with h2o2 also that will help your roots and quality of res. if it has a gas smell then i would even consider changing it. that is the life of your plants. today im changing my water and and adding h2o2 gonna do that every water change and manually water them with it also. i think i might have to take a plant apart ( slowly remove her from the soil) and see whats up with 1 of mine the new growth is still yellowish from when my ph got way low. Im gonna bake the rest of my soil to destroy all nutes in it. give her fresh soil with nothing in it and see how she does.
love and peace

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The water isnt slimy or anything PH is staying constant now, and the smell might just be the DN Zone
If I have to change water every other day Ill ditch this setup and go back to soiless.
Im gonna let ride through the week and just keep an eye and nose out for changes.

My sense of smell when expressed isnt always right...I think the garage smells more like chlorine today that anything honestly.

Hey jimmer.... I was thinking about it alot last night. I think what I would do is get 5 of the 232's. Seems like that is the best cost for coverage. If you save $40 a month, they will pay for themselves in 3 years.

I am saving quite a bit on electricity and really happy with how cool things are. That's the thing I don't think people think about, you aren't just trading down wattage (if you do trade down wattage) but you don't need to run so many fans and a/c's to cool the place.

More trimming today. It looks Like I'm going to have a pretty good haul. Around what I've predicted, around 7-8 oz I think. I've been snapping pics and videos, just too lazy/ busy to upload. I'll get around to it.

Smoked a tester bud yesterday, no cure but proper dried. It was nice. Real nice.

Chaka, there are 25 diodes per chip. Each diode is rated for 3w. They only pull about 1.5 each, so that's why my light with 100 diodes pulls around 150w. THat is, if it is pulling 150w, never checked.

jigfresh said:

Hey jimmer.... I was thinking about it alot last night. I think what I would do is get 5 of the 232's. Seems like that is the best cost for coverage. If you save $40 a month, they will pay for themselves in 3 years.

I am saving quite a bit on electricity and really happy with how cool things are. That's the thing I don't think people think about, you aren't just trading down wattage (if you do trade down wattage) but you don't need to run so many fans and a/c's to cool the place.

More trimming today. It looks Like I'm going to have a pretty good haul. Around what I've predicted, around 7-8 oz I think. I've been snapping pics and videos, just too lazy/ busy to upload. I'll get around to it.

Smoked a tester bud yesterday, no cure but proper dried. It was nice. Real nice.

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I have been trimming as well....rally liking it now that I found I have latex allergy. I do it without and get a nice transdermal high... i actually like that high better than smoking, and I dont get the muchies from it really either.

jigfresh said:

Chaka, there are 25 diodes per chip. Each diode is rated for 3w. They only pull about 1.5 each, so that's why my light with 100 diodes pulls around 150w. THat is, if it is pulling 150w, never checked.

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I think its better to run half power through them.
You know me I think of things in the sense of audio.
In the old amplifiers (lets use Linear Power as an example) they used T-03 mosfets.
Instead of using 10-12 50 W fets to produce 500 watts, they used 12 100 watt fets.
This allows them to be used without stress and less heat production.
Instead of burning out in a yr or 2 when the warranty is over they last 10-20 yrs or more if cared for.
I have one left from 96 (other was stolen) still works like the day I got it.
You can compare this to engines with a 7500 rpm redline, and reliability difference when you always shift under 4k.

This is more than 10 letters RIU!!!

What I am saying is technically you could open the light up and replace diodes and get double the power through them if you wanted, but would drastically shorten life....say like an HID lamp.

jigfresh said:

Chaka, there are 25 diodes per chip. Each diode is rated for 3w. They only pull about 1.5 each, so that's why my light with 100 diodes pulls around 150w. THat is, if it is pulling 150w, never checked.

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yep that is why you could put the lights right on the plants and didnt bother them. for a vertical i htink the lights you have is perfect jig. thats a good take. im redoing my lights today and gonna seperate my plants into 2 sets so i can focus the light on my fast growers. i dont have your led power but with cfl and led i can blast them good. cant wait till i get to smoke my own bud again its been a few years. you all grow such great weed i hope i can come close.
peace and love

DCobeen said:

yep that is why you could put the lights right on the plants and didnt bother them. for a vertical i htink the lights you have is perfect jig. thats a good take. im redoing my lights today and gonna seperate my plants into 2 sets so i can focus the light on my fast growers. i dont have your led power but with cfl and led i can blast them good. cant wait till i get to smoke my own bud again its been a few years. you all grow such great weed i hope i can come close.
peace and love

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I find that even my worst bud is better than most I got from the street, and still better than so much from the clubs.
I am not saying my best is better than the top shelf in a club, but I def dont pay top shelf prices.

i think your bud will come out great bro!

Jig can you tell me again how to do those cookies?

I made em 2x and they sucked and didnt even taste good.

Lol... what cookies bro? I've made brownies like 2 times since I've been growing and that was years ago. I think you meant some one else.

jigfresh said:

Lol... what cookies bro? I've made brownies like 2 times since I've been growing and that was years ago. I think you meant some one else.

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HMMM I cant remember who then.

It was Oatmeal and maybe Cinnamon in the cookies.

[h=3]Marijuana Oatmeal Cookie Recipe[/h]Ingredients:
1 cup marijuana butter, softened
2 eggs
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
1 cup white sugar
1 cup packed brown sugar
2 cups all-purpose flour
1 teaspoon baking soda
1 teaspoon salt
1 1/2 teaspoons ground cinnamon
3 cups quick cooking oats
Directions:
Preheat the oven to 375 degrees. I like to grease the cookie sheet(s) with melted marijuana butter.
Combine together the marijuana butter, white sugar, and brown sugar.
Beat in the eggs one at a time, then stir in the vanilla.
In another bowl, combine the flour, baking soda, salt, and cinnamon.
Combine the two mixtures. Mix in oats. Cover, and chill the dough in the fridge for at least one hour.
Roll the dough into balls, and place them 2 inches apart on cookie sheets.
Flatten each cookie with a large fork dipped in sugar.
Bake for 8 to 10 minutes.
Allow cookies to cool on baking sheet for a couple of minutes before transferring them to a wire rack to cool completely.

DCobeen said:

Marijuana Oatmeal Cookie Recipe

Ingredients:
1 cup marijuana butter, softened
2 eggs
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
1 cup white sugar
1 cup packed brown sugar
2 cups all-purpose flour
1 teaspoon baking soda
1 teaspoon salt
1 1/2 teaspoons ground cinnamon
3 cups quick cooking oats
Directions:
Preheat the oven to 375 degrees. I like to grease the cookie sheet(s) with melted marijuana butter.
Combine together the marijuana butter, white sugar, and brown sugar.
Beat in the eggs one at a time, then stir in the vanilla.
In another bowl, combine the flour, baking soda, salt, and cinnamon.
Combine the two mixtures. Mix in oats. Cover, and chill the dough in the fridge for at least one hour.
Roll the dough into balls, and place them 2 inches apart on cookie sheets.
Flatten each cookie with a large fork dipped in sugar.
Bake for 8 to 10 minutes.
Allow cookies to cool on baking sheet for a couple of minutes before transferring them to a wire rack to cool completely.

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Thanx for the recipe.

I think the part I have the most trouble with is the canna butter recipe/directions

http://www.theweedblog.com/easy-marijuana-butter-recipe/ here is how to make butter.
love and peace

My wife and a friend of hers tried to make brownies back in the '70s. They just took a handful of shwag and threw it in a brownie mix! She said it was awful and full of twigs haha!