Vertical Scrog LED Closet Grow || Flooded Tube/ NFT || 450w - Headband - 2’ x 3’

Are these LEDs going to produce fat, sticky buds?

  • The buds are going to be amazing and you'll wonder why anyone uses HIDs.

    Votes: 18 19.1%

  • The buds will be good, and the yield will be good compared to the power used.

    Votes: 33 35.1%

  • The buds are going to be fluffy and weak and you'll wonder why anyone flowers with LEDs.

    Votes: 10 10.6%

  • Why not just wait and see?

    Votes: 33 35.1%
  • Total voters
    94
  • Poll closed .
F.M.I.L.Y

F.M.I.L.Y

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Hey Jig, do you think the LEDs will make the plants stretch like growing in HPS? I would veg a little longer cause I dont think they will stretch as much as they would if grown in HPS, I could be wrong. Either way whether you flip now or next week they look so healthy!
 
MedScientist

MedScientist

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WooHoo Jiggy!

So I finished putting together my new Hydro/SIP System and took pics to Journal... then I saw your video and how Well the plants were doing THAT Close to the Panels, so I immediately went in and Lowered them to 12 inches from the Tops.

I would Veg longer and tie the plants Horizontaly to fill more of the screen, but them again... You are taking Closet LED Growing to a NEW Level... I got NO-One to compare to! WooHoo! You are a TRAILBLAZER my Friend!

Peace
 
jigfresh

jigfresh

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It's true bassman, I'm a little out of sorts running 6 instead of the 10. I think it's better this way for sure, but it's odd having the extra horizontal space.

You know I was thinking... this vert setup might not be that great/ fitting for these panels. Before I was taking advantage of the fact the HID bulbs kicked light out 360 degrees. It seems I'm trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, quite litterally. I wonder if running a flat grow wouldn't be better... just line these lights up and put them above the plants like most folks. That would be quite boring, but might work better.

Any thoughts?

Here's some pics from 2 days ago.



 
MedScientist

MedScientist

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Considering how WONDERFUL things are going.... I would NOT change a thing! Much can be learned from venturing Outside the Box, which makes you a TRUE Pioneer!

But in the SAME Spirit... follow your Gut! You are a GIFT to US in your sharing.

Peace
 
jigfresh

jigfresh

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Well that doesnt' help, hahaha. I do appreciate the words though. Oh man I'm excited to see how these puppies do in flower (the panels I mean). I'm really really really hoping they make me happy. Only one way to find out.

How are things going over there Med? I don't know if I said on your thread or not, but I'm digging the new setup you put in. Nice and clean looking.
 
ghb

ghb

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what you said made sense to me, they only put out light in one direction so using them vertically is not going to be any more beneficial. however, the fact that you are using more canopy area does in fact mean you are using the lights better. i can't say what i mean but i'll try a simpler way.

you will get more yield doing what you are doing than if you just ran all 3 lights in a horizontal set up with plants under them in that little space.

gonna be interesting in a few weeks time when they are getting chunky. still not flipped?
 
jigfresh

jigfresh

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Not yet. Today or tomorrow. I think it's gonna be a mess in there... but at least I will not be saying at the end, "I wish I would have let them veg longer".

And I suppose you are right. Or rather, you are right. The canopy space is remarkably bigger. The screens I have in there a HUGE compared to the 7 sq. ft. I could cram in there horizontally. I need to figure out a more effective way of training / growing the plants to get at that light. I think the second grow will be an improvement. (not that this grow has anything wrong with it).
 
SomeGuy

SomeGuy

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I agree. I would flip in a few days. I think its all looking pretty great. I would keep the vert screens as i think you would lose yeild also. Small tweaks rather than huge changes is all i think youll need. I am dying to see finished product with these lights though. :-)
 
Smoothkicksandsmoke

Smoothkicksandsmoke

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Man I haven't seen pics in a while those things have bushes out well bro. Tying them around horizontally would be awesome. Definitely a good utilizing of the space. The lighting aspect will be more apparent in the coming weeks. You gotta have 20 sq ft min using the screens. I would agree on the veg too. Kinda hard to reverse time and add veg time to the girls after try are finished. Plus you have the extra space running 6. I second (or whatever number the discussion is at) for vegging a couple more days.
 
bassman999

bassman999

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Looking at the walls and anywhere near the closet, I think light is strong enough in there inline with fixtures and not.
They are happy thats for sure!
 
MedScientist

MedScientist

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jigfresh said:
Well that doesnt' help, hahaha. I do appreciate the words though. Oh man I'm excited to see how these puppies do in flower (the panels I mean). I'm really really really hoping they make me happy. Only one way to find out.

How are things going over there Med? I don't know if I said on your thread or not, but I'm digging the new setup you put in. Nice and clean looking.
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WooHoo! Dont be in a RUSH to switch to 12/12! From what I have seen from this technology, these LED Panels should put out Budz VERY Similar to HPS size, but with WAY MORE Frost! I would continue tying them during 12/12 stretch, just keep an eye on the Humidity as they Foliate. With SOooo Much foliage, the transpiration is bound to drive UP the Humidity, (another) reason why I LOVE Defoliation!

Thank You for the Testimony! I am HOPING this Combo of Principles works as Tweaked and Imagined! I plan to run my Tree Farm (HPS Room), with the same 1/2 Gallon containers, just in individual Buckets. I did not set-up the Autowater in there for this run since I Knew I would be swapping rooms mid stream. Here is a pic of one being fed/wicked up ONLY, with NO frequent top feed and drain (wick).





Peace
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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I think first that they look great!! Now secondly I think you are over thinking it, its not a square peg in a round whole, its a square peg in a square closet :). I'm certain each of those lights is effectively covering the wall it is faced at with great useable light. The difference is that you have 3 flat lights instead of 1 round HID. Those plants all look super happy, and like they are going to fill up every last inch of space you have in that closet! It sure seemed like that cut stretched a fair bit for chaka.
 
bassman999

bassman999

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Thundercat said:
I think first that they look great!! Now secondly I think you are over thinking it, its not a square peg in a round whole, its a square peg in a square closet :). I'm certain each of those lights is effectively covering the wall it is faced at with great useable light. The difference is that you have 3 flat lights instead of 1 round HID. Those plants all look super happy, and like they are going to fill up every last inch of space you have in that closet! It sure seemed like that cut stretched a fair bit for chaka.
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I agree, and also the round bulb would be illuminating the door un-necessarily, where your 3 fixtures light the 3 walls only.

So lose some here, but gain some there.
 
supchaka

supchaka

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Thundercat said:
I think first that they look great!! Now secondly I think you are over thinking it, its not a square peg in a round whole, its a square peg in a square closet :). I'm certain each of those lights is effectively covering the wall it is faced at with great useable light. The difference is that you have 3 flat lights instead of 1 round HID. Those plants all look super happy, and like they are going to fill up every last inch of space you have in that closet! It sure seemed like that cut stretched a fair bit for chaka.
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It actually grew the fastest but stretched the least. That plant was the largest going into flower and its now my shortest plant. Although it is kinda spread out now so some height is lost there.
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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I stand corrected, it may have just seemed that way from it starting out so big. I didn't mean stretch in a negative way by the way, just as in growing alot after the flip, which again must have been my misconception.
 
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