Virgin Grow; Stealth Closet Cab - CH9 Humboldt / Bagseed

Hello everyone.

After months upon months of reading, I've started my grow.

Closet / cab:



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What i'm working with:

CH9 Humboldt seed via Attitude / decent bag seeds
Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil
45w 6500k daylight CFLs for veg (x3 at the moment)
pH balanced distilled bottled water (using basic general hydro. pH control kit)
4" Carbon Filter / 6" Duct fan for outtake
~150 cfm 80mm computer fan for intake
Oscillating Fan for air movement
Suncourt speedster variable speed controller for duct fan
Woods brand power strip w/mechanical timer
Painted walls with a white gloss paint

As I mentioned, this is my first grow. I'm only using one of the seeds I purchased, which is the femmed CH9 Humboldt. I'd rather not waste all of my money / seeds on my first attempt. The rest of the seeds i'm working with (4) are some bag seeds from decent strains.

I germinated them 2 days ago via glass of water for 24h, then transported to dish/ wet paper towel/heat, which was a great success.

When I planted them, I planted them twice the depth of their width, which I recalled reading somewhere (Depth = Width*2). I ensured the root was facing down and the seed was pointing up so their would be minimal stress during soil penetration. I then watered the soil with 6.3 pH distilled, ensuring the soil was "moist", not "wet"- as I was advised.

I'm running them on 18/6 time schedule.


Before I end, I have a question or two.

Exactly how often should I be watering and exactly how much water should they receive? I understand once a bigger pot is introduced (3 gallon i.e.), watering only needs to be done every 3-5 days, even longer perhaps. Considering how small the cups they are in, what is the amount and frequency of waterings? I know it is dependent on the amount of moisture in the soil, which perhaps can only be judged by the person inspecting it, but maybe someone can shed some wisdom based on their own experience.

Last question, regarding my carbon filter (check attached file). The white cloth filter that covers the external area, is it necessary to leave that on? I feel like I will have much better ventilation without.


If anyone sees anything wrong with my setup, or if i'm leaving some information out, let me know.

Looking forward to some great discussions with some great people. I'm off to read my seeds (newly adopted children) a bedtime story and hit my bong a couple times.

Peace fellas.

with the plants so small water every 2-3 days prob not more than a 20oz bottle of water total between the 3,would put them in diff potts cuz the light will penetrate those clear cups and stop root growth...and really with the water it doesnt matter a whole lot to start,just dont overwater,give them just enough so there is liquid,but its not soaked,and then wait until its dry about 2 inches down before you water again,this will makes the roots grow faster as they will have to find nutrients and water in the soil.

thank you for the reply,

I read about the light damaging the roots with clear container, i didn't want to use them but its all i had on short notice. should everything go correctly, i plan on transplanting them much sooner than later into bigger containers due to the root damage/clear cup issue. i've got a 3 gallon for the fem Humboldt and two 2 gallons for whichever ones survive / are female out of the bag seed.

Definitely agree with the Dr.. Overwatering will be your #1 enemy this early in the game, be careful and good luck, subbed

cannabiski said:

Last question, regarding my carbon filter (check attached file). The white cloth filter that covers the external area, is it necessary to leave that on? I feel like I will have much better ventilation without.

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Nah man, take that off. It's a dust cover and you only need it with excessive dust in a setup. It'll just be limiting airflow.

s`KlUe said:

Nah man, take that off. It's a dust cover and you only need it with excessive dust in a setup. It'll just be limiting airflow.

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I removed that shit a.s.a.p. , i knew it wasn't necessary.

cannabiski said:

I removed that shit a.s.a.p. , i knew it wasn't necessary.

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it is actually nessecary if you want to get the full life potential out for the scrubber, i replace my scrubber every 2 -3 grows

d03sha,

thanks for the tip. i'm kind of pissed now that i took it off because im not trying to replace it so quickly, but it is necessary because i need the extra ventilation. i can see temperature possibly becoming a problem in the future. One thing i just realized im doing is cycling the hot air straight into my ceiling and back into my closet.

Should I just cut a hole in the drywall and expel the heat into the wall? I live on the top floor / attic, i dont think that would be a problem.

Yea I live in a top apartment and vent straight into the wall via a pic in my t5 grow, go to the wall not attic, mait ence can access attics if nessicary

Oh ls if you cut a hole don't make it any bigger than a normal wall plate ( telephone cable) if u know why I mean so u can always cover the hole with te wall plate when u move, the air is still gunna puh too the wall just tape real good

I'm having some sort of ventilation problem. I'm positive what i have should be sufficient, the intake is really pushing in a lot of "cool" air (high cfm 80mm pc fan) and the outtake is a powerful 6" duct fan. When i have the cab door open, everything is dandy temp wise. As soon as i close it, the temp jumps up like 6-8º (F) within 10 minutes.

I feel like it is the outtake fan. I put like a weightless piece of tissue paper against the carbon filter to see if it would "suck" it, but it just fell away the moment i let it go. Its like it isn't pulling any air. I don't have the fan on it's highest setting because of how loud it is, but it's definitely close enough to 100% power, might have it at 80-85%.

I'm thinking that having the 6" -> 4 " reducer so close to the duct fan may be highly effecting the suction. Maybe if i put the filter sideways and use 6" duct to extend it away from the fan a little it would help? That would also locate it more towards the top of the grow box to catch more hot air.

Do I just not have the fan on high enough? Is there a sure-fire way to tell, besides holding a tissue against it, if air is being pulled through the carbon filter?

I'm gonna take the carbon filter off tomorrow to see if that helps the temps, then i'll know what i need to focus on. It relieves me to know, at least, the temps are where they should be while there is proper ventilation (the cab door open).


Hit me up with any advice,


OHHH and the seeds are making great progress,3/4 broke the surface, gonna post pics tomorrow.


Edit: There is definitely hotter air being expelled by the outtake, but it makes no sense that i can literally not tell if air is being pulled through the carbon filter.

Not sure what your duct fan is, but investing in a good one is very worth it.. You should almost hear the filter sucking air. My previous setup kinda sounded like a car pod filter sucking air..

I'm pretty sure i just didn't have it turned on high enough. I put it at 100%, and see a big difference, but its not good enough for me. I need to vent the hot air into the wall asap.

For my next set up, im getting a real inline duct fan, not a "booster". Need more pressure.

The seeds are looking great i can't wait to upload some pictures in a little!

Whats up fellas,

Checking in with some nice progress (I think).

Things I have done due to high temp:

Dust cover off carbon scrubber.
Turned 6" Duct booster up to 100% power via speedster controller
Rigged up a shoddy cover for the intake to aim the air towards the plants more, which worked great.
Relocated the oscillating fan to the back of the cab, seemed to help the temps for some reason.

I also raised the plants closer to the lights, which I added two of. Both 45w 6500k.




They seem to be doing pretty well. I give them distilled pH balanced water when the soil feels / looks dry 1/2 inch under. I'm making a conscious effort to not over or under water them.




Let me know what you think, I love the feedback (and criticism too).
Thanks!

That light setup is very nice!

Good job man, you Gould get the cardboard out of there, I find my self using cardboard but catch myself and use something that won't mold or harm your plants

Hey you should get like a Starbucks sleeve or make something to put over the cups because they are clear, roots don't like the light

DO3SHA said:

Hey you should get like a Starbucks sleeve or make something to put over the cups because they are clear, roots don't like the light

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Thats a really good idea, I kind of partially did that on two cups but i dont know why i didnt finish it (must have been really high). I was gonna cover them with black duct tape. Is it ok to use tape? lol


OH,

I was thinking, I noticed the one's root has already reached the bottom of the cup. When is a good time to put them into the bigger pots? I want to put the fem Humboldt in a 3gal and im not quite sure what i intend to do with the others. I have 3 other 3 gal pots , not sure if i can fit them all in there. Even if i could fit three 3 gal pots, there are like 4 other seeds. Can they share a pot or would that just stunt the growth and be a waste of a good healthy plant?

Maybe i should use a few smaller 2gal pots with one 3 gal?

I would use the sleeves only because you could still pull them off and see the roots, you can keep em in the cups maximum time to keep the plants small since you are doing a stealth

Are they fem?