Vitamin C nuetralizes chlorine??

VTMi'kmaq

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http://www.fs.fed.us/t-d/pubs/html/05231301/05231301.html

So just dust your tap water with vit c and ZAP! good to go water for AACTs and shit?
If it's just chlorine in your water and not CHLORAMINES yes kids theres a huge differance, especially when trying to offgas this wretched shiieeeeeet! I Usually just fill 5 gallon buckets an inch from the top, cover them with womens panty hose and let them off gas in a 50-60-70ish temp area for 24-48 hours, usually enough for chlorine to off gas on its own imvho. However sodium thiosulfate is whats needed when trying to remove chloramines, a good tutor or example to follow ois professional aquarium guys/gals they gotta keep there environments pristine for the overall health of the fish/environment. I can look up ratios if anyone needs. What a headache this was for me back in 2001 lol.
 

Budder Fingers

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OK, still think I'll be taking measures to get rid of chlorine/chloramine. Even if it only kills bacteria in the top few inches of soil and they bounce back after a couple of days, still seems like two step forwards, one step back.

For me it's all about optimization and if something is detrimental in any way, I want to eradicate or rectify
 

Budder Fingers

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If it's just chlorine in your water and not CHLORAMINES yes kids theres a huge differance, especially when trying to offgas this wretched shiieeeeeet! I Usually just fill 5 gallon buckets an inch from the top, cover them with womens panty hose and let them off gas in a 50-60-70ish temp area for 24-48 hours, usually enough for chlorine to off gas on its own imvho. However sodium thiosulfate is whats needed when trying to remove chloramines, a good tutor or example to follow ois professional aquarium guys/gals they gotta keep there environments pristine for the overall health of the fish/environment. I can look up ratios if anyone needs. What a headache this was for me back in 2001 lol.
Thanks good point, seems chloramine is 'the new' chlorine, here's a helpful copy and paste from wikipedia >>>>

Uses in water treatment
See also: Chloramination
Chloramine is used as a disinfectant for water because it is less aggressive than chlorine and more stable against light than hypochlorites.[3]

Drinking water disinfection
NH2Cl is commonly used in low concentrations as a secondary disinfectant in municipal water distribution systems as an alternative to chlorination. This application is increasing. Chlorine (referred to in water treatment as free chlorine) is being displaced by chloramine—to be specific monochloramine—which is much more stable and does not dissipate as rapidly as free chlorine. NH2Cl also has a very much lower, however still present, tendency than free chlorine to convert organic materials into chlorocarbons such as chloroform and carbon tetrachloride. Such compounds have been identified as carcinogens and in 1979 the United States Environmental Protection Agency began regulating their levels in U.S. drinking water.[7]

Some of the unregulated byproducts may possibly pose greater health risks than the regulated chemicals.[8]

Adding chloramine to the water supply may increase exposure to lead in drinking water, especially in areas with older housing; this exposure can result in increased lead levels in the bloodstream, which may pose a significant health risk.[9]

Swimming pool disinfection
In swimming pools, chloramines are formed by the reaction of free chlorine with organic substances. Chloramines, compared to free chlorine, are both less effective as a sanitizer and, if not managed correctly, more irritating to the eyes of swimmers. Chloramines are also responsible for the reported "chlorine" smell of swimming pools.[10][11] Some pool test kits designed for use by homeowners are not able to distinguish free chlorine and chloramines, which can be misleading.[citation needed] There is also evidence that exposure to chloramine can contribute to respiratory problems, including asthma, among swimmers.[12] Respiratory problems related to chloramine exposure are common and prevalent among competitive swimmers.[13]

Removing chloramines from water
Chloramines should be removed from water for dialysis, aquariums, hydroponic applications, and homebrewing beer. Chloramines can interfere with dialysis, can hurt aquatic animals, and can give homebrewed beer a medicinal taste by forming chlorophenols. In hydroponic applications, it will stunt the growth and fruit production of plants.[citation needed]

When a chemical or biological process that changes the chemistry of chloramines is used, it falls under reductive dechlorination. Other techniques use physical—not chemical—methods for removing chloramines.[citation needed]
 

Budder Fingers

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Dialysis
Chloramine must be removed from the water prior to use in kidney dialysis machines, as it would come in contact with the bloodstream across a permeable membrane. However, since chloramine is neutralized by the digestive process, kidney dialysis patients can still safely drink chloramine-treated water.[14]

Ultraviolet light
The use of ultraviolet (UV) light for chlorine or chloramine removal is an established technology that has been widely accepted in pharmaceutical, beverage, and dialysis applications.[15] UV is also used for disinfection at aquatic facilities.

Superchlorination
Chloramine can be removed from tap water by treatment with superchlorination (10 ppm or more of free chlorine, such as from a dose of sodium hypochlorite bleach or pool sanitizer) while maintaining a pH of about 7 (such as from a dose of hydrochloric acid). Hypochlorous acid from the free chlorine strips the ammonia from the chloramine, and the ammonia outgasses from the surface of the bulk water. This process takes about 24 hours for normal tap water concentrations of a few ppm of chloramine. Residual free chlorine can then be removed by exposure to bright sunlight for about 4 hours.[citation needed]

Ascorbic Acid & Sodium Ascorbate
Ascorbic acid and sodium ascorbate completely neutralize both chlorine and chloramine, but degrade in a day or two, which makes them usable only for short-term applications. SFPUC determined that 1000 mg of Vitamin C tablets, crushed and mixed in with bath water, completely remove chloramine in a medium-size bathtub without significantly depressing pH.[16]

Activated carbon
Activated carbon has been used for chloramine removal long before catalytic carbon became available; standard activated carbon requires a very long contact time, which means a large volume of carbon is needed. For thorough removal, up to four times the contact time of catalytic carbon may be required.

Most dialysis units now depend on granular activated carbon (GAC) filters, two of which should be placed in series so that chloramine breakthrough can be detected after the first one, before the second one fails.[17] Additionally, sodium metabisulfite injection may be used in certain circumstances.[18]

Campden tablets
Home brewers use reducing agents such as sodium metabisulfite or potassium metabisulfite (both proprietary sold as Campden tablets) to remove chloramine from brewing fermented beverages. However, residual sodium can cause off flavors in beer[19] so potassium metabisulfite is preferred.

Sodium thiosulfate
Sodium thiosulfate is used to dechlorinate tap water for aquariums or treat effluent from waste water treatments prior to release into rivers. The reduction reaction is analogous to the iodine reduction reaction. Treatment of tap water requires between 0.1 grams and 0.3 grams of pentahydrated (crystalline) sodium thiosulfate per 10 liters of water. Many animals are sensitive to chloramine, and it must be removed from water given to many animals in zoos.

Other methods
Chloramine, like chlorine, can be removed by boiling and aging. However, time required to remove chloramine is much longer than that of chlorine. The time required to remove half of the chloramine (half-life) from 10 gallons of water by boiling is 26.6 hours, whereas the half-life of free chlorine in boiling 10 gallons of water is only 1.8 hours.[20]
 

testiclees

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bro how can we get you to think about what an arrogant and goofy fucking know it all you you are. Did i " get you to think" about keeping that idiot shit to yourself?

you know all about this just like you knew all about the "far red" until you were told you were talking out your ass.

Did being shown that your ignorant on the topic "get you to think"?
 

hyroot

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Aerating water for less than a day removes chlorine too. If your water has chlorine then it does not have chloromine. They have one or the other. A lot of water depts. Especially in Cali do not use chloramine at all or anymore.
 

Lo Budget

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I got some sodium thiosulfate from the pet store. If it's good enough for fish, it's good enough for plants. I prefer rain water but it's hard to come by in the coldest months.
 

cannakis

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First Always remember that Vitamin C is NOT Actually vitamin C! It is Asorbic Acid!

A Huge difference than the Actual Naturally occurring Vitamin C found in Citrus Fruits and Collards and Spinach! HUGE DIFFERENCE!

Now not arguing it doesn't help with removing chlorine but Chlorine is a Naturally Occurring chemical originally derived from Ash... Pot Ash... Pearl Ash... I don't really mess with chlorine especially after reading this study...

Couldn't find what I saw it was like study from Denver Uni... But I did find this which states that chlorine phytotoxicity Does a/effect plant growth BUT that "Our results suggested that irrigation water containing free chlorine less than 2.5 mg·L−1should not adversely affect the growth or appearance of ornamental woody shrubs."

http://hortsci.ashspublications.org/content/43/6/1882.full
 
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