Voting rights for women in Saudi Arabia
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The Ruiner
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Image makeover time...Awesome. Good for them. It's a big shift away from the fundamentalist nature, which to me signals that they are cracking down on extremists.
window dressing to look like they are doing things right, they still believe in women are lesser forms of humans than men.
The Ruiner
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I understand the reluctance Jesus, but this is a pretty bold move. This is a pro-western leap, and a major one. We should applaud the effort, not shit on it from the get go.
Luger187
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yeah it seems so random. i wonder what made them make the decision. have women been pushing for it?
The Ruiner
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Personally, I don't really see it as a "victory" for women, but more of a signal to the West (the US namely), that they are moving away from fostering an environment of social conservatism and fundamentalist extremism. It will also be a good way to keep social unrest within their own borders from manifesting into a full-blown upheaval. Strategy, pure and simple.
Carne Seca
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The fundamentalists are going to howl for blood.
budlover13
King Tut
Then those that support the women should offer it up imo.
Charlie Ventura
Active Member
Big mistake! We gave women the vote and look at where we are today. 14 trillion in debt.
budlover13
King Tut
Disagreed Chuck.Big mistake! We gave women the vote and look at where we are today. 14 trillion in debt.
Charlie Ventura
Active Member
Are you kidding? What was the first thing they did with the vote? ... That's right ... prohibition!
budlover13
King Tut
Touche there. Maybe they were given the vote but had to follow their husbands wishes? Or got tired of getting beaten by drunk "patrons"?Are you kidding? What was the first thing they did with the vote? ... That's right ... prohibition!
Charlie Ventura
Active Member
Yeah man, I think you hit it with the beaten by drunk husbands comment. Anyone who's had to deal with abusive alcoholic parents can relate to what you said.
As a recreational drug, alcohol sucks!
budlover13
King Tut
STILL trying to walk away from that addiction. Can and have quit smoking several times for several reasons. Drinking is a bitch.
Charlie Ventura
Active Member
I understand completely. I've done a lot of research into the disease of alcoholism over the past several months. Gone to AA and have most of their literature including "The Big Book." I started looking into it to see if there was some way I could help a very good friend of mine to get out of his addiction to beer. The guy is up to twenty beers a day. He starts the morning off as soon as he get up with two beers.
I found out that there is nothing I can do. I found out that he will have to be as desperate to get off of his addiction as he's desperate for that next beer. For those addicted to alcohol, the temptation to drink is too strong to quit. The only way is to turn the addiction over to a Higher Power.
Most people don't realize that addiction isn't a moral disease ... its a health issue.
Luger187
Well-Known Member
ever seen intervention? that might work
oh also there is this stuff that you take and if you drink alcohol in the next day or so, you get VERY sick and puke your ass off. this probably isnt good with someone that drinks 20 beers a day. you can die if you suddenly stop drinking like that. he should be watched at a treatment center for the first few days if he does quit cold turkey
budlover13
King Tut
i USED to drink up to 36 a day an 20-24 was the norm. i stopped when required due to legal issues but quickly started back even though the consequences legally could've been dire.
Never had that much temptation with pot.
Luger187
Well-Known Member
that definitely sounds like an addiction to me. sorry to hear that.
if at first you dont succeed, try and try again