walkin' yer talk in the land of lipservice

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s.c.mtn.hillbilly

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"There's two kinds of people in this world when you boil it all down, you got your talkers and Gotcha doers. Most people are just talkers all they got is talk but when it's all said and done it's the doers who change this world, and when they do that they change us and that's why we never forget them. So which one are you? Do you just talk about it or do you stand up and do something about it. Cause believe you me all the rest of it is just coffeehouse bull shit"....as a 'back easter'(midwesterner), I've seen personally why california gets such a bad rap as far as lack of work ethic goes. while it's a generalization, and certainly not true for all california natives- once weed goes legal back east; their advantage will vanish overnight! this state is the epitome of the statement by a russian general-"a soft land breeds soft people!"...and lip service just don't cut it east of the sierra's. that's why theres this mutual resentment between the spartans(back easters) and the patricians (west coast)...where I'm from, the greatest man is the one who can outwork a gang of trobadajores with one hand tied behind his back..anything less, and you're a LOSER!!! period. that's why most californians can't even begin to compete!- and that's why as a state: california will be scooled in "how it's done!" by places like arizona, kentucky, indiana, virginia, missouri- basically every state with any sizeable ag program...if I'm pissin' off californians- GOOD! get off your lazy asses! legalization is comin' faster than you think- and once the rest of the country's legal-party's over folks! the back easters are waitin' to play hardball; and all I see here is a bunch of people who are so full of themselves and how 'expert' or even worse-"connoisseur", but I'm really not seeing ANY quality from other growers here...just esophageal burn! that's the legendary 'california weed?!' WTF?!!! y'all better get with it. I'm not shitting you! quality speaks for itself.-learn sukiyaki growing, and STOP PUSHING THE RIVER!
 
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s.c.mtn.hillbilly

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sorry about the cali-hatin' rant....it just peeves me to no end how people say they/WE are gonna' do this that & the other; only to see no effort, or at best half assed occasional effort- resulting in massive loss of time and effort on my part. there is a magical component to creativity- it's called DOING...basically it invovles overcoming any inertia or obstacles to MAKE IT HAPPEN...having inert people in the equation just slows things down...it's like dragging a dead water buffalo through the mud!- just GET IT DONE! -I don't wanna' hear any excuses!
 
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the part of the rant about cali growers is actually just me goading y'all into gettin' with the sukiyaki program- because developing california, and specifically the central coast into the 'champagne' region of ganja will be all that saves the region's ganja industry once the rest of the country gets on the band wagon...I'm dead serious: the Dineh(navajo rezernation) will be a perfect example of can-o-whoopass once arizona goes legal...they have their own volcano! and they live above 7000'...a very DRY 7000'. I'm sure the utes in cortez are already crankin' it out now that colorado's legal...and right there- colorado is high & dry..so their summer weed(their only outdoor) will be unsurpassed...and their already goin'. we need to get everyone on board the organic, pesticide free, boat, so we can develop sukiyaki ganja as a "methode champagnois"- which creates regional exclusivity...we build the name of california ganja to surpass even the myth(at present) of california weed being the end all- be all of ganja. we're not there yet. it's not gonna' be about exclusive strains- it's already melting pot city, and will only get better(in my view)- no- what it's about is how well it's grown..-especially when the reynolds' and morris' move in with all their big ag buddies. it's gonna be the sukiyaki growers who keep their niche. quality takes more time for less harvest; because you aren't 'pushing the river'. you're letting nature go at HER pace. you're not ruining the flavor with neem oil; you accept the taxation of vegetarian bugs because they feed the army which keeps them in check. you refrain from using dolomite or rock phosphate or related adulterated products. you always keep a mind to NOT messing up the micro processes in the soil...these are some of the key tennets to sukiyaki ganja...maybe we need a sukiyaki thread.
 
nathenking

nathenking

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hillbilly,
First, I respect your grows and your general perspective on life, but I respectfully disagree.
i here what your sayin man, but at the end of the day, northern california has the best weed, hands down, no contest... I have bought pot from, norcal, oregon, washington, eastern montana, minnesota and colorado all in large quantities over the last 8 years... Nothing competes with the quantity and quality of norcal... I was just out in southern oregon last month and was amazed with the lack of professionalism and quality of there outdoor, when just 2 hours south of them is completly different story... Southern Oregon has been bangin out outdoors for years and they still havent got there shit together like nor-cal... So dont be worrying about other regions in the USA, its not gonna happen bro. Plus they are already putting the squeeze on the medical cannabis in montana and colorado... Not to mention it will soon be illegal to buy marijuana as a tourist in the netherlands man... MJ is not gonna be legal... The G20 will not let it happen, its not even legal in jamaica or the netherlands but it will be here? yeah right if it wasnt for this massive recession the legalization of MJ would not even have a solid point to argue (money/tax)... Do I want pot to be legal, yes, do i think it will be, no.
i look forward to your response
 
stonedmetalhead1

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nathenking said:
hillbilly,
First, I respect your grows and your general perspective on life, but I respectfully disagree.
i here what your sayin man, but at the end of the day, northern california has the best weed, hands down, no contest... I have bought pot from, norcal, oregon, washington, eastern montana, minnesota and colorado all in large quantities over the last 8 years... Nothing competes with the quantity and quality of norcal... I was just out in southern oregon last month and was amazed with the lack of professionalism and quality of there outdoor, when just 2 hours south of them is completly different story... Southern Oregon has been bangin out outdoors for years and they still havent got there shit together like nor-cal...
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Dude there's dank everywhere. I'm sure Northern California has some great weed that doesn't mean there isn't weed just as good anywhere else in the country. Dank isn't location specific, you just need to know where to get it. Just from what I've gained from talking to people from Cali is a lot of them think they have the best weed but I think it's because of the amount of weed, it's tolerance, the amount of exposure that weed gets and the pure commercialization thats happening. Nor Cal outdoor is great though, they have a great climate to grow herb and I've deffinately have had some straight up dank from my friends out there but I've had just as good and better from places all over the US.
 
nathenking

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stonedmetalhead1 said:
Dude there's dank everywhere. I'm sure Northern California has some great weed that doesn't mean there isn't weed just as good anywhere else in the country. Dank isn't location specific, you just need to know where to get it. Just from what I've gained from talking to people from Cali is a lot of them think they have the best weed but I think it's because of the amount of weed, it's tolerance, the amount of exposure that weed gets and the pure commercialization thats happening. Nor Cal outdoor is great though, they have a great climate to grow herb and I've deffinately have had some straight up dank from my friends out there but I've had just as good and better from places all over the US.
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I agree that there is dank everywhere... But can you find 25lbs of it every 2 weeks??? Probably not... But you can find that in norcal year round with a high quality to high quantity ratio... Thats all I was saying.... Norcal's economy is based in MJ, and until there is another huge area with a great climate with the amount of headie people like norcal making there living, payin their bills and supporting their families off MJ there is no reason to dispute the point... Its their lively hood...
Until you go there, and i mean go there alot over a 5 year period, you wont understand what Im saying, but no worries, it is what it is brudda
 
stonedmetalhead1

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nathenking said:
I agree that there is dank everywhere... But can you find 25lbs of it every 2 weeks??? Probably not... But you can find that in norcal year round with a high quality to high quantity ratio... Thats all I was saying.... Norcal's economy is based in MJ, and until there is another huge area with a great climate with the amount of headie people like norcal making there living, payin their bills and supporting their families off MJ there is no reason to dispute the point... Its their lively hood...
Until you go there, and i mean go there alot over a 5 year period, you wont understand what Im saying, but no worries, it is what it is brudda
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I understand what your saying and I agree that norcal produces some great weed I just wouldn't go as far to say they have the best.
 
Howard Stern

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Everyone thinks they have the best weed! I am sure that the Mexicans in Mexico think their shit is good! LOL But I live in Wa. state and I have to say that we have some good ass shit up here. Is it better than everyone elses? NO you have good shit everywhere.

My only goal is to grow the best weed anyone has ever smoked!
 
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Howard Stern said:
Everyone thinks they have the best weed! I am sure that the Mexicans in Mexico think their shit is good! LOL But I live in Wa. state and I have to say that we have some good ass shit up here. Is it better than everyone elses? NO you have good shit everywhere.

My only goal is to grow the best weed anyone has ever smoked!
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Thats always been my goal since day 1 :)
 

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stonedmetalhead1 said:
I understand what your saying and I agree that norcal produces some great weed I just wouldn't go as far to say they have the best.
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Now that we have discussed this, your right about not sayin any one place has the best... Just in my experience i have had way better luck there than anywhere else, so i am biased... take care
 
brickedup417

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when you can grow weed openly and have so many connoisseurs with nothing to do but perfect theyre passion its no wonder cali has some of the best buds.
 
ganjaluvr

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stonedmetalhead1 said:
I understand what your saying and I agree that norcal produces some great weed I just wouldn't go as far to say they have the best.
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I wouldn't go as far to say he's a stupid moron..

Everyone has their own opinion.. and he's entitled to his own too.

I actually kinda agree.. who's to say that Cali has the best buds?

I mean.. really. How do you know that there's not a better strain over on the East Coast.. that you've never heard of?

You never know.. ;)

anyhow, its all good.

peace.
 
kylecole420

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I will say cali has some fire weed but if everyone could walk out of there back door and tend to plants then everyone would have fire. The true growers are the guys who walk through brush and briers. Spend a few nights in the woods waiting on that big harvest. These are the true growers of are times. Everyone in cali can say they have a headache and grow right in your back yard (which is how it should be mind you) but the majority of the country doesn't have this option. So to put it simply if half of the growers in cali had to do this there wouldn't be all that fire around.
 
alexonfire

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get me some of that bc bud haha, I would love to come to cali and try out your stuff but unfortunately I dont got the funds.
 
stonedmetalhead1

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bonghits4all said:
what a serious moron you are.........thoughtless and just as dumb as a bag of nails......
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Aren't you the guy that grew out one plant of LA Confidential and said that you got the best pheno there is whithout anything to compare it to while saying LA sucks as a whole because of your limited experience. I'm pretty sure it's people like you this thread was originaly aimed at. People all over the country have a passion for the herb therefore there is dank everywhere, it's just more open in the west. Also half of the strains that are famous in California came from other parts of the country but Californians seems to think all of the strains in North America come from Cali.

This link is for anyone who wants to read BH4A's review on LA Confidential. Remember when reading that he only had 1 female.

LINK: https://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/122778-l-confidential.html

Some quotes from Bonghits amazing insight just incase you don't feel like reading his whole thread.
Originally Posted by bonghits4all
when the seeds cost me 150 or more and i get 1 female out of 10 i can judge it.with 1 grow. i did. and stand by it . im just really thrilled you all love it so much cause that means the really good pot will still be available cause your all buying l.a. conned out o my m,oney.

Sure you can judge it but your not going to have a very educated opinion.

Originally Posted by bonghits4all
my thread i own it la-over rated if you want true great smoke try dj shorts

Thats just childish.

Originally Posted by bonghits4all
listen up petulant children.l.a. is hype its o.k. no better.and dont try to tell me i havent smoked true kind .(i do everyday).ive been smoking twice as long as most of you have been alive.I have smoked the best of the best and the worst of the worst. ive been to humboldt county and medicno county.and all over cali. and oregon and to A. dam.And none of it touches what i grow myself.I only grow elite strains. That you punks couldnt even get with a fistfull of money cause your punks.And l a is no elite strain. by any stretch of the imagination.Its mid grade. Ok time to close this thread now. and lock it up.

lol, do you think your the god of cannabis?

Originally Posted by bonghits4all
your a idiot.ihad the very best pheno of la there is and i grew it to perfection.I stated that clearly 1000 times allready.you just cant read.

Really? you actually posted this statement.

Originally Posted by bonghits4all
man stop talking like you know something.l.a. is a stable f1 hybrid S T A B L E means little to no variation with remarkably stable results. i.e. verry little variation between individual plants.You follow yet ???????? not to mention my 1 female expressed every trait to a tee.that Aaron from DNA SEEDS decribed i look for.We on the same page yet?????? .And i do have pollen from 3 chosen males from my 9.Like i said your a petulant child arguing something your not educated in.Im now completly convinced of your ignorance in this paticular field.L.a is not bad by any means but it is not 1st rate it is over hyped and overpriced. end of discussion.

How do you know your plant expressed every trait to a T, you have nothing to compare it to.

Originally Posted by bonghits4all
some one gets it .plus rep for knowing a hyped up strain

la con, fo sho, overpriced overrated..just another citrusy hashplant...peace..smoke some real shit.!!!

Again, your just showing your ignorance.


Originally Posted by bonghits4all
didnt get screwed got l.a. beautifull plant.Loved everything about her.except the taste.and high. Its not for me.I dont understand why everyone is trying to tell me that im not allowed my opnion.I wrote a honest no frills review on la confidential.If you dont agree tough cookies. deal with it. cause your not going to change my opnion.

You wrote a review completely slamming LA C based on your experience with 1 female, what did you expect.

Originally Posted by bonghits4all
it is potent but has a celing and draggy comedown for me.in all honesty if you like a hearty solid indica then la wont let you down.but i still dont understand all the hype it gets. cause im really not that impressed.I expected alot of this strain. I went to a dam for the cup in 07 And everyone was talking about the la so i forked up the cash. went through a whole ordeal to get them back to the states.Lets just say it was uncomfortable.only to get 1 female that was good but in no way measured up to the hype.They smoked me up on some martian mean green at their booth that i liked. i remember.

I want to reiterate, you had 1 female!

Originally Posted by bonghits4all
If you are american and looking for top shelf then dont do it. I understand how the europieans would think its great. but they have never been to cali or oregon or colorodo. Its very good if you olny want higher level middies. but if you want kind buds Then L A will dissapointe you.

If your an American looking for top shelf weed, I suggest you grow out more than 1 female of a particular strain.


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All of this from growing 1 plant! Who's the thoughtless dumbass?

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nathenking

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brickedup417 said:
when you can grow weed openly and have so many connoisseurs with nothing to do but perfect theyre passion its no wonder cali has some of the best buds.
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exactly what i was trying to say, there whole lives are based around MJ and it has been for years...
 
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