Want Fatter Buds not Sure How - 2 Weeks To Go
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Brick Top
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I get your point
I disagree with your previous comment about potency though, I've grown several auto strains and they've always been much stronger than what i buy from dealers. no doubt the yield is ridiculous compared to a non auto
If you are going to compare any commercial grade herb to any professional genetics the professional genetics, if grown well, will always be more potent. That is why people believe strains like The Church are awesome. They have a highly limited comparative base and they compare whatever professional genetics they grow to commercial and think they ended up with 'The Holy Grail.'
Rather than compare autos to commercial, instead pick a few proven strains from a few of the true top grade highly skilled breeders, grow those strains, correctly, the way they should be grown, and then compare and see what you think. If you do that you will never grow an auto-flowering strain again.
For one, they are gimmicks. Another thing is you cannot take a plant, Ruderalis, that is almost devoid of THC and that some horticulturists not only argue but fully believe to not be a part of the actual cannabis family and instead are part of the hemp, as in industrial hemp, family and breed it with another strain or strains and end up with something that is as potent as if all high quality cannabis strains were used in a cross. You can't add water to bourbon and expect it to not be watered down, and that is what auto-flowering strains are.
All they offer is size and the need to not have to change the settings on a timer. There are other short strains and there are other short flowering period strains, even more of them if only vegged a short period of time or if started right from 12/12, and they will produce as well, if not better, and be more potent.
Just like feminized seeds they are gimmicks that breeders have propagandized a goodly number of people into believing are good, or even better than regular seeds, and that they are the way to go, they are modern and they are the future ... when in fact they are only crap.
Wolverine97
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^^^This. 100%, this. Well said Brick.
dednbloated
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personally id give them humboldt natural bloom (0-10-0) with molasses and something for potassuiim if u want , i flush for one weeek wen i use humboldt nat. nutes.. and like others said always keep light as close as possible withoud burning, more light = more energy to use the organic nutes and make plump tasty buds
ganjalibera
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Thanks for the informative feedback, although there are compromises to reach, at least in my case. I can't be bothered to grow regular seeds and then after several weeks having to dump all the males, which were grown taking time, electricity and space for fuck all. Feminised seeds might not be the dog's bollocks but they seem good enough for me, they're cost effective and save me a lot of hassle. Auto flowers are the most extreme of compromises, they're faster and smaller than regular strains and to some novices are the best way to experiment a little. I don't know if cannabis and hemp are unrelated (it seems strange to me, I see them as different plants with varying characteristics belonging to the same family) but even modern day vegetables have gone through decades of selection and cross breeding to obtain the best results. Autos are a reasonably recent concotion and I don't feel like dissing them completely just yet.
sleeperls93
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Autos are garbage bro!! And I'm starting to hate fem seeds also... you'll understand when you have an entire crop of awesome genetics get seeded.. I've grown autos twice,and never will I do that again! It's much better to grow out a few regular seeds, and pick a nice female to keep as a mother, once you have a few good moms, you reall don' have to start from seed again....
Mary I Wanna
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Try this man, Feed your girls real good then let them dry out for 5 or 6 days.. No water no food nothing, drying it out will give some oxygen to the roots and losen your soil up a little.. After they dry out flood them with water and nuets, and let them dry out again.. Depending on how she looks after the 2nd time, you would either dry her out one more time, or start your flush for harvest... GHSC swears by this method of flowering...
Cannabisculture
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auto-flowering strains are runderalis cannabis which is the 3rd and smallest type of cannabis. largest to smallest would be Sativa, Indica, Runderalis(Needs no flower period)
Purchase Sativa dominant strains and your yeilds will fatten
also would consider adding 1tsp Blackstrap Molasses per gallon used throughout growth (besides flush)
this gives the buds a sweet taste and give the plant essential carbs for healthy growth
Veg for ATLEAST a month with some type of cropping technique, sometimes i grow from seed for a month, top the plants and veg another month
flower for 10! weeks maybe even 11
you have to wait for all those hairs to turn. Brown Hairs=Mature pistils
hope this helps!
-CC
ganjalibera
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Here are the latest picures of the white dwarf. The buds have thickened up a bit and I think it's ready to chop, even though my initial calculation was to give it another week or so, but pistils are dark and the trichomes look like they should be. I'm thinking about trimming all the fan leaves and leave it under the lights for another day or two, then cut and cure it. Let me know guys if you think I should wait longer, but there are very few white hairs left. Thanks.
Wolverine97
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Ready when you are.
cerberus
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you! you, you are always right on it, and my only "devils advocate"
they arent bad when they are thrown in as freebies. when I order real quality seeds from established breeders, well, i like getting the fem auto's as freebies. =) would I pay for em? lol NO.
Mary I Wanna
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Originally Posted by Brick Top
Just like feminized seeds they are gimmicks that breeders have propagandized a goodly number of people into believing are good, or even better than regular seeds, and that they are the way to go, they are modern and they are the future ... when in fact they are only crap.
Thats not 100% true... Yes some fem seeds will hermie, but it's not always the breeders fault.. If you stress any female plant enough it will go hermie on you... Breeders did not invent fem seeds, mother nature did that on her own, to ensure the survival of the species... There's wild cannabis fields in India that femmed there self.. The breeders noticed the absence of male plants but the females still made seeds, so they studied the feilds.. They discovered that after generations of female plants breeding with female plants the offspring had absolutly no male genetics what so ever.. I know alot of the breeders will stress a female plant with stp and get her to produce seeds.. Those are the fem seeds to stay away from.. If the breeder is selective and choses female plants with strong female genetics, one plant can be stressed to produce pollen, then bred with the other females to create fem seeds that will not hermie.. Just use reputable experienced breeders and you shouldn't have any problems... Fem seeds can save you alot of time and money if they are made right...
livin the hilife
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feminized seeds is just a catch phrase for seed companies. the mother plant undergoes parthenogenesis aka it doesn't need a male or sexual reproduction to reproduce. these are also seen in dandelions and many other plants as well. its the genetics of the mother plant that produce seeds that are female.
Wolverine97
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Nope. You're wrong.
thrash4ever
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This is an interesting thread, so I thought I'd wade in. I tend to agree that autos are a waste of time. Quite simply you can get indica-dominant cultivars which grow and flower rapidly and occupy less (vertical) space - similar to autos.
I think beyond a one-cycle crop it's worth it to get regular seeds and sift out (or keep for pollination) males. However, I'm doing my first proper grow indoors and have limited space and time, therefore the small pack of feminised seeds I got from Barney's Farm is perfect for my situation. I simply do not have the space to grow ten plants only to chop down maybe a quarter or a third of them - waste of time, space and money. If I was on a full-cycle grow with a dedicated areas for propagation, vegetative growth, flowering and finally curing, then I would most definitely go for regular seeds where I could retain mothers displaying the most desirable phenotypes and take cuttings (not to mention using males to breed if I am adventurous). I plan on doing this when I get a proper place of my own..
As it stands I'll settle for six Euros a plant (cheaper to buy the seeds when you are in their store in Amsterdam)
I think beyond a one-cycle crop it's worth it to get regular seeds and sift out (or keep for pollination) males. However, I'm doing my first proper grow indoors and have limited space and time, therefore the small pack of feminised seeds I got from Barney's Farm is perfect for my situation. I simply do not have the space to grow ten plants only to chop down maybe a quarter or a third of them - waste of time, space and money. If I was on a full-cycle grow with a dedicated areas for propagation, vegetative growth, flowering and finally curing, then I would most definitely go for regular seeds where I could retain mothers displaying the most desirable phenotypes and take cuttings (not to mention using males to breed if I am adventurous). I plan on doing this when I get a proper place of my own..
As it stands I'll settle for six Euros a plant (cheaper to buy the seeds when you are in their store in Amsterdam)
you don't know what youre talking about, pal. those pics are of a nearly ready EasyRider I grow along with other strains... she will give me about 35g dry, even more if I'm lucky. the buds are big, not on par with those of a non AF plant but if you compare them my ER is a small copy of her bigger sisters.
growing an AF is not a waste of time, in a couple of months, with minimum work it is possible to achieve even 100, 130g of great weed. and you're wrong also about potency... today AF are made starting with great famous strains, the average thc is 18%, in a few days I will able to do another cycle using only sweet seeds autos. their cream caramel is killer, the fast bud #2 surely is, I have toked some joint and they all were stunning...
it's only a matter of how one grow.
edit: somehow pics are reversed, sry. oh, and that bottle is a 50 cl one.
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Oldreefer
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Why does a help thread inevitably turn into a HATE AUTO....I'd dare say, those who neg autos don't grow them or simply don't know HOW...and have issues with anyone who does...which apparently makes those who don't sound ridiculously stupid and severly uninformed....
I don't use molasses or any other so called tricks to get fat yeilds....I just select old proven & stable strains and do the simple stuff in growing. AND, I'll put the potency of my autos up against ANY photo....do it often....my photo friends put their shit up when I show up with my autos.....it doesn't take months and months of bullshit & misinformation from this forum to obtain worthwhile buds......
I don't use molasses or any other so called tricks to get fat yeilds....I just select old proven & stable strains and do the simple stuff in growing. AND, I'll put the potency of my autos up against ANY photo....do it often....my photo friends put their shit up when I show up with my autos.....it doesn't take months and months of bullshit & misinformation from this forum to obtain worthwhile buds......
Da Almighty Jew
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if u want fatter buds then try being consistent with your whole grow. you can not overcompensate during the last 2 weeks. Another thing that will help is compost tea, snowstorm. And one thing that i know gives fat buds is bloombastic. I have stayed away from it this grow. Put a previous grow i used it and got nearly 2lbs on one plant, underneath a 1000 watt hps.