Was jesus real?

i don't need proof...i'm not the one saying he existed.

well..prove he didn't???

that's like saying "prove santa clause doesn't exist..."

sorry i should have went with spongebob

I beleive their was a cool man named jesus that followed aliens.....And got killed for it...They still dont want us to know aliens exist......I need to stop watching history channle high..

i met a man named jesus, he was a landscaper though.

you guys know mary had kids before jesus. and after jesus. that whore had mad kids. but the one that can pull a bird out his ass and makes wine becomes god. yeah right. i think mary got raped. couldnt tell all her tribe members for fear of being banished. so she said hey im pregnant but didnt have sex. everyone was like well your hot. so ok must be god, your mine next though. and sure enough she had more kids after.

and hey anyone making wine and doing magic is going to be fuckin popular. jesus was smart. even thousands of years later people are tricked.

If you want Jesus to exist and are looking for proof that he did and does - don't read the following books. If you are interested in what real historians have discovered, here is a short reading list:
Incredible Shrinking Son of Man - Robert Price
The Jesus Puzzle - Earl Doherty
Holy Writ as Oral Lit - Alan Dundes
Biblical Nonsense - Jason Long
Gospel Fictions - Randel Helms

If you would prefer to get a quick introduction to the history of Christianity and the new testament, then I recommend the DVD "The God Who Wasn't There" by Brian Flemming (the DVD features many of the authors above as they are the premier biblical scholars).

But if you decide to watch the DVD be aware that there is new evidence which nullifies even the Josephus reference making the evidence for Jesus as being real even more tenuous (at best).

ZenMaster said:

The Bible is the oldest history book. And it is proven that Jesus existed because it gives his heritage at the beginning of the New Testament. Jesus existing is undeniable.

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Wrong, wrong and even more wrong. Just because you believe it, does not make it so.

There is very little real history in the bible.

Not to get personal but how do you marry the literal truth of the bible (which you obviously believe) and Zen, Zenmaster?

Sure Jesus existed,I bought some brickweed from him in Matamoros in '69, at least I think that was his name....

Pontius Pilate was a Scottish man His family moved from rome and he was born there before they moved back to rome

Can u picture that him ordering Jesus to death with a Scotish tounge ..... Ed ov prolly called em JiMMY instead of Jesus haha

And it is believed john the baptist, his mother was Marys aunt i that made him a distant cousin of john

Gee I just broke up picturing Pilate with a scottish accent, LOL!

SHOOT2KILL66 said:

Pontius Pilate was a Scottish man family move from rome and he was born there before they moved back to rome

Can u picture that him ordering Jesus to death with a Scotish tounge ..... Ed ov prolly called em JiMMY instead of Jesus haha

And it is believed john the baptist, his mother was Marys aunt i that made him a distant cousin of john

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can you picture the Jewish high council meeting on passover eve? or a roman governor feeling the need to "defend" a known Jewish insurrectionist?

The bible is definitely not the oldest history book. There are many religious texts which predate the bible by hundreds of years.

The bible is a fairy tale!!!
There is more physical evidence about dinosaurs existing, then there will ever be about "Jesus" and all of his supposed accomplishments....But ask most Evangelical Christians and they will tell you that dinos never existed or the same creationist morons want you to believe that man and dinosaur co-existed side by side (check out the new creationist museum in KY that shows man riding dinosaurs like horses on saddles) ....these are the same idiots that ask you to believe the planet is only 6000 years old, or the dinos never existed, or that "Jesus" was who they claim him to be....lets move into the next millenium people....RELIGION IS A GOVERNMENT HOAX THAT WAS USED TO CONTROL UNEDUCATED MASSES BY USING FEAR, A HOAX THAT IS THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD!!!!

JESUS:
Born 12/25
From a virgin
Followed by 3 kings
had 12 disciples
performed miracles
was crucified
buried for 3 days
was resurrected
blah, blah, blah

So were these "gods"
Egypt- Horas in 3000bc
Greece - Attis in 1200bc
India = Krishna in 900bc
Greece = Dionysus in 500bc
Persia = Mithra in 1200bc

Before you try to tell me your god is the only god, make sure and do some more research and see where they stole some of the stories in the bible from....dont just watch the movie folks, do the research....

I have always believed that organized religon was dreamed up by incompetent hunter-gatherers to con the rest of the tribe out of food. Prove me wrong.

email468 said:

can you picture the Jewish high council meeting on passover eve? or a roman governor feeling the need to "defend" a known Jewish insurrectionist?

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Id like to talk to you about this email but its saturday night and the god thread is getting hot again haha so i,ll let ya,s blast away

If Jesus never excisted does this mean matt mark luke and john never eather mary or joe , Pontius pilate John the bap, Judus , or was it just jesus that dident excist ?

Pontius Pilate, Herod and Herod Agrippa are historical figures recorded in Roman sources. There are no contempory accounts of Jesus .