Washington Among States Considering Legalizing Marijuana, Dozens Of States Weigh Othe

GreenSurfer

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OLYMPIA, Wash. - Washington is one of four states where measures to legalize and regulate marijuana have been introduced, and about two dozen other states are considering bills ranging from medical marijuana to decriminalizing possession of small amounts of the herb.

"In terms of state legislatures, this is far and away the most active year that we've ever seen," said Ethan Nadelmann, executive director of the New York-based Drug Policy Alliance, which supports reforming marijuana laws.

Nadelmann said that while legalization efforts are not likely to get much traction in state capitals anytime soon, the fact that there is such an increase of activity "is elevating the level of public discourse on this issue and legitimizing it."

"I would say that we are close to the tipping point," he said. "At this point they are still seen as symbolic bills to get the conversation going, but at least the conversation can be a serious one."

Opponents of relaxing marijuana laws aren't happy with any conversation on the topic, other than keeping the drug illegal.

"There's no upside to it in any manner other than for those people who want to smoke pot," said Travis Kuykendall, head of the West Texas High Intensity Drug-Trafficking Area office in El Paso, Texas. "There's nothing for society in it, there's nothing good for the country in it, there's nothing for the good of the economy in it."

Legalization bills were introduced in California and Massachusetts earlier this year, and this month, New Hampshire and Washington state prefiled bills in advance of their legislative sessions that begin in January.

Marijuana is illegal under federal law, but guidelines have been loosened on federal prosecution of medical marijuana under the Obama administration.

Even so, marijuana reform legislation remains a tough sell in some places. In the South, for example, only Mississippi and North Carolina have decriminalization laws on the books.

"It's a social and cultural thing," said Bruce Mirken, spokesman for the Marijuana Policy Project, a Washington, D.C.-based marijuana advocacy group. "There are some parts of the country where social attitudes are just a little more cautious and conservative."

Rep. Mary Lou Dickerson, a Seattle Democrat who is sponsoring the legalization bill in Washington state, said that she "wanted to start a strong conversation about the pros and cons of legalizing marijuana."

Under her bill, marijuana would be sold in Washington state's 160 state-run liquor stores, and customers, 21 and older, would pay a tax of 15 per cent per gram. The measure would dedicate most of the money raised for substance abuse prevention and treatment, which is facing potential cuts in the state budget.

Dickerson said the measure could eventually bring in as much to state coffers as alcohol does, more than $300 million a year.

"Our state is facing a huge financial deficit and deficits are projected for a few more years," Dickerson said, referring to the projected $2.6 billion hole lawmakers will need to fill next year. "We need to look at revenue and see what might be possible."

Allen St. Pierre, executive director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, said that tough economic times across the country have lawmakers looking at everything, and may lead even more states to eventually consider the potential tax value of pot.

"The bean counters are now reporting back to their elected officials how much money is being left off the table," he said, adding that billions of dollars worth of pot is going untaxed.

Ron Brooks, president of the National Narcotics Officers' Associations' Coalition, said that he feared that, if legalized, marijuana would contribute to more highway accidents and deaths, as well as a potential increase in health care costs for those who smoke it.

State lawmakers, he said, need to ask themselves "if they believe we really will make all that revenue, and even if we did, will it be worth the suffering, the loss of opportunities, the chronic illness or death that would occur?"

Legalization isn't the only measure lawmakers across the country are weighing. About two dozen states, including Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Wisconsin, are considering bills ranging from medical marijuana to decriminalizing possession of small amounts of marijuana, St. Pierre said.

Washington state is among the states that are considering decriminalization, with a bill that would reclassify adult possession of marijuana from a crime with jail time to a civil infraction with a $100 penalty.

Fourteen states, including Washington state, already have medical marijuana laws, and 13 have decriminalization laws on the books, St. Pierre said. About two dozen cities across the country, including Seattle, make marijuana offences a low law-enforcement priority.

Marijuana advocates said that while increased activity in the statehouse is heartening, change most likely will come at the ballot box through voter-driven initiatives.

"Inevitably, the politicians are going to be behind the curve on this stuff," Nadelmann said, noting that almost all of the medical marijuana laws came about by initiative.

This month, a group campaigning to put a marijuana legalization measure before California voters said it had enough signatures to qualify for the 2010 ballot.

That proposal would legalize possession of up to one ounce of marijuana for adults 21 and older. Residents could cultivate marijuana gardens up to 25 square feet (2.3 sq. meters). City and county governments would determine whether to permit and tax marijuana sales within their boundaries. And in Nevada earlier this month, backers of a move to legalize marijuana there filed paperwork creating an advocacy group aimed at qualifying an initiative for the 2012 election.
 

triconomics

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Decriminalization is what is needed not Legalization.

I could care less what the government thinks, says, believes, and lies about.

It is about Freedom!

The government is anti-freedom, they are only interested in control and intimidation.

All they would need to do is just tell everyone that it is now not a criminal offense.

Fuck all the people who want to sell it, tax it, fuck em all they aren't worth shit.

Decriminalization is what is needed. The state is bankrupt so they shouldn't throw marijuana offenses into a prison systems full of rapists, murderers and other felons.

Fuck em all!
 

tical916

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Thanks for the post, I see this two head to head topics..

Pro
Rep. Mary Lou Dickerson, a Seattle Democrat who is sponsoring the legalization bill in Washington state, said that she "wanted to start a strong conversation about the pros and cons of legalizing marijuana."

Under her bill, marijuana would be sold in Washington state's 160 state-run liquor stores, and customers, 21 and older, would pay a tax of 15 per cent per gram. The measure would dedicate most of the money raised for substance abuse prevention and treatment, which is facing potential cuts in the state budget.

Dickerson said the measure could eventually bring in as much to state coffers as alcohol does, more than $300 million a year.
That's how it should be viewed everywhere. Talk about the real pro/cons of the weed and get away from all the bullshit propaganda brought up years ago against marijuana..

Like this fucking tool.

Ron Brooks, president of the National Narcotics Officers' Associations' Coalition, said that he feared that, if legalized, marijuana would contribute to more highway accidents and deaths, as well as a potential increase in health care costs for those who smoke it.

State lawmakers, he said, need to ask themselves "if they believe we really will make all that revenue, and even if we did, will it be worth the suffering, the loss of opportunities, the chronic illness or death that would occur?"
How does marijuana cause chronic illness or death? I believe it is was legalized it was carry the same penalties of a current DUI. These are the people who still have their heads so far up their asses, they agenda is that marijuana is some killer weed. WTF is wrong with people
 

tescu

Active Member
the union, google that movie and see all the bullshit they did during the testing of pot
 

Vincent.

Member
lawmakers are such idiots when the topic of marijuana is brought up. I say everyone should only vote to put politicians in office that support the legalization or decriminalization of marijuana. :|
 

LowRider82

Well-Known Member
Decriminalization is what is needed not Legalization.

I could care less what the government thinks, says, believes, and lies about.

It is about Freedom!

The government is anti-freedom, they are only interested in control and intimidation.

All they would need to do is just tell everyone that it is now not a criminal offense.

Fuck all the people who want to sell it, tax it, fuck em all they aren't worth shit.

Decriminalization is what is needed. The state is bankrupt so they shouldn't throw marijuana offenses into a prison systems full of rapists, murderers and other felons.

Fuck em all!
Decriminalization still makes a black market. sure they can fine you for possession but why not allow me to grow it freely without repercussions. Why shouldn't i be-able to grow my own strains and sell it to the masses. Legalization would be freedom more freedom than decriminalization.
 

Natures Cure

Active Member
Are there any templates/forms available to download to start a petition. How many signatures does it take? Any other in would be great (i.e. age to sign - probably 21, etc, etc.)


Pease & Love
:weed:
 

Natures Cure

Active Member
Decriminalization still makes a black market.
I'm not sure about you but IF I could grow my own shit legally. I ain't paying for bud from anyone. Only a moron would buy pot when they could grow their own. That money would go toward the growing of the dope.

NO DIS here but I see the MJ black market quickly imploding as a result of decriminialization ultimately resulting in 95% of pot smokers growing their own ganja.

It would definately experience a temporary steroid like increase in activity but then dickheads would wise up and say WTF am I spending my cash for someone else to profit. You only have to invest in the bulk of the equipment and the rest is consumables. And the greatest cost in growing your own herb are the nutes.

And besides, all these lawmakers have one great huge big copious problem. These fucking state goverments are operating in the red. Facing years in deficit . . . and while facing that deficit they are spending our fkn money to jail potheads and cutting education programs, senior programs, community programs, etc.

I wish these lawmakers would wise the fuck up and make lemonade out of what they see as lemons!

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Natures Cure

Active Member
And besides, all these lawmakers have one great huge big copious problems. These fucking state goverments are operating in the red. Facing years in deficit . . . and while facing that deficit they are spending our fkn money to jail potheads and cutting education programs, senior programs, community programs, etc.

I wish these lawmakers would wise the fuck up and make lemonade out of what they see as lemons.!
 

CLOSETGROWTH

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Hey, at least there slightly lightening up... Its a slow process, but things are looking much better for many states.
 
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