water plants with boiling water before harvest ????

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resinousflowers420

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panhead said:
Who the hell waters their plants with boiling water before harvest , im over 60 yrs old & been smoking/growing dope most my life & never SEEN it done .

Ive heard stories where people used to place the root mass in boiling water to make some kinda funky root/mud tea but have never saw the shit done .

Dont burn the shit out of your plants & dont waste time flushing , another myth like the one you mentioned with boiling water .
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flushing isnt a total myth,yes indeed flushing will only help if you use water soluble nutrients, then it will only flush the medium from N, the minerals etc will not be effected in the plant. but under those circumstances the flush has a large effect in taste and immediate pleasurable smoking, while the same plants in unflushed medium will not have the same nice taste right after drying and will not be as cool to puff in your mouth till you do a real cure when the tastes will start to come out. but if i was growing a 100% bio set up, i wouldn't flush either. although i would water with plain water in the last 2 weeks. so getting rid of the nitrogen is important.thats why its good to harvest after the leaves turn from green to yellow.
 
panhead

panhead

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werejammmin420 said:
Well obviously some people think it works so hopefully someone with some knowledge on this method will see this...
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Actually i have a ton of knowledge on the subject , its an old hippy trick/myth much like pushing a rusty nail thru the main stalk of the plant , supposedly the injury caused by the nail tells the plant to produce more thc to heal the wound , sillyness & goes against everything known about growing weed ,energy spent healing wounds is lost bud energy .

The boiling water trick is supposed to force the thc out of the root mass & stalk up into the bud structure , again going against everything we know about growing dope , no thc is produced in the root mass or stalk so all thats accomplished is to kill the entire root mass where any live bud material will be forced to feed off nutrients within the leaf .

Again the whole idea is absurd once you understand how thc is created & how it gets stronger in effect .

The boiling water crap & rusty nail business was floating around back when i was a youngin in the 60's i just never knew any serious grower gullible enough to fuk his whole summers work with boiling water , the nail trick ive seen & its for shit as well .

Stick to basic horticulture methods & avoid tricks , shortcuts & tricks never pay off in better bud or larger weights i promise you .
 
RM3

RM3

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panhead said:
Actually i have a ton of knowledge on the subject , its an old hippy trick/myth much like pushing a rusty nail thru the main stalk of the plant , supposedly the injury caused by the nail tells the plant to produce more thc to heal the wound , sillyness & goes against everything known about growing weed ,energy spent healing wounds is lost bud energy .

The boiling water trick is supposed to force the thc out of the root mass & stalk up into the bud structure , again going against everything we know about growing dope , no thc is produced in the root mass or stalk so all thats accomplished is to kill the entire root mass where any live bud material will be forced to feed off nutrients within the leaf .

Again the whole idea is absurd once you understand how thc is created & how it gets stronger in effect .

The boiling water crap & rusty nail business was floating around back when i was a youngin in the 60's i just never knew any serious grower gullible enough to fuk his whole summers work with boiling water , the nail trick ive seen & its for shit as well .

Stick to basic horticulture methods & avoid tricks , shortcuts & tricks never pay off in better bud or larger weights i promise you .
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There is truth to the myth if you understand the science, which I posted a link to.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-truth-about-flushing.409622/page-23#post-11118401

The myth part is the pushing of THC, What actually happens is you deprive the plant of O2 via the roots, the fade that every one likes happens in 3 to 5 days as opposed to 2 weeks and it speeds up the cure by 7 to 10 days

I've been doin it for years :bigjoint:
 
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werejammmin420

werejammmin420

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resinousflowers420 said:
flushing isnt a total myth,yes indeed flushing will only help if you use water soluble nutrients, then it will only flush the medium from N, the minerals etc will not be effected in the plant. but under those circumstances the flush has a large effect in taste and immediate pleasurable smoking, while the same plants in unflushed medium will not have the same nice taste right after drying and will not be as cool to puff in your mouth till you do a real cure when the tastes will start to come out. but if i was growing a 100% bio set up, i wouldn't flush either. although i would water with plain water in the last 2 weeks. so getting rid of the nitrogen is important.thats why its good to harvest after the leaves turn from green to yellow.
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Cheers for the useful info, this,is why I put up with all the dick head comments because 1/10 will say something that is useful! thanks.
 
hellmutt bones

hellmutt bones

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panhead said:
Who the hell waters their plants with boiling water before harvest , im over 60 yrs old & been smoking/growing dope most my life & never SEEN it done .

Ive heard stories where people used to place the root mass in boiling water to make some kinda funky root/mud tea but have never saw the shit done .

Dont burn the shit out of your plants & dont waste time flushing , another myth like the one you mentioned with boiling water .
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Do flush! Im not to sure about boiling ur weed though.
 
Abiqua

Abiqua

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Thc has been found in roots along with other mono and diterpenoids as well as sequoiridoids.. If you poured heat [boiling water] over them it will destroy those compounds chemically.

RM3 you are hanging your laurels are clearly junk science. I don't even want to ask why.You don't provide any explanations based on biochemical response, that's the toughest part of all this......

None of your claims are backed up by anything other than hearsay.....some of the functions you describe dont' even EXIST, how is that you understand it, but no one else does? lol
 
RM3

RM3

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Abiqua said:
Thc has been found in roots. If you poured heat [boiling water] over them it will destroy those compounds chemically.

RM3 you are hanging your laurels are clearly junk science? I don't even want to ask why.

None of your claims are backed up by anything other than hearsay.....some of the functions you describe dont' even EXIST, how is that you understand it, but no one else does? lol
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Did you read the link? The science is very real, it's in all the botany books LOL
 
TBoneJack

TBoneJack

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I am always amazed at the "rituals" that have developed in marijuana growing. Flush, starve, 48 hours of darkness, etc. And now the king of them all: flush with boiling water. Wow. What will they think of next?

My advice:

Flushing is useless.
Starving is detrimental.
48 hours of darkness right before harvest is 48 hours of wasted time.
And flushing with boiling water can only hurt; probably YOU if you're not extremely careful.

Grow the plant, feed the plant, and harvest when trichomes tell you it's ready. Leave all the "rituals" alone.
 
Abiqua

Abiqua

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@RM3 oh please, you dont even know what you posted.

Wrong kind of fermentation to begin with as that is alcoholic fermentation and you want to end up with a end product of homolactic fermentation.

All of this can be measured as a specific redox reaction. With N being the first to be reduced.....in the cycle. I know my shit...
 
Abiqua

Abiqua

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I think you are on a better path with the curing talk. That is where, what you are talking about, actually makes sense.
 
RM3

RM3

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Abiqua said:
@RM3 oh please, you dont even know what you posted.

Wrong kind of fermentation to begin with as that is alcoholic fermentation and you want to end up with a end product of homolactic fermentation.

All of this can be measured as a specific redox reaction. With N being the first to be reduced.....in the cycle. I know my shit...
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I know exactly what I posted, as I said been doin this for years, and I know a lot of other growers that do it as well. I can tell you this much, once you do it , you'll never look back
 
Abiqua

Abiqua

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RM3 said:
I know exactly what I posted, as I said been doin this for years, and I know a lot of other growers that do it as well. I can tell you this much, once you do it , you'll never look back
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okay, Im glad that someone is actually pointing out specific chemistry and that isn't good enough, it's like saying 2+2 doesn't Equal 4. CO2 is the last thing to affected by reduction [redox] in fermentation and is not required in the curing process, in fact it is vented as waste.

So my suggestion is to bone up on alcoholic vs homolactic fermentation and homofermtative versus heterofermentative
 
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