Water Quality Problems and Organic Microherds

cannatricks

Well-Known Member
I have an organic indoor perpetual grow going and I have huge chemical problems with our tap water. In the first crop I had a couple of full microherd die offs that really hurt my yield. I figured I would post up the things that you can do to take these nasty things out of your tap that I had to learn through research and trial and error. Want to learn what a microherd is? do some research. Google Organic Soil Biology, it'll teach you wonders.

From what I see there are only a few things in your tap that will really kill (or badly damage) a microherd. You can usually get online and get an annual water quality report from your municipality. You can also contact your water company for a copy of it. If you have a well and need to test, you can get online and find a local testing lab to get your water tested independently.

Over-Fluoridation:
There is an idea in the US (i don't know about elsewhere) that fluoride will help our teeth, I'm not going to get into whether it does or not, but it does not help our plants. There are varying views on how much it hurts, but here's how to get it out.

There are three types of filtration media that will remove fluoride from water: bone char (a form of carbon), alumina (aluminum oxide) and a fluoride ion exchange resin. Knowledgeable water treatment professionals in your community can provide details about these filtration options. It should be noted that fluoride is not removed from water by boiling; it only becomes more concentrated in this manner. Even if you have effectively removed fluoride from your drinking and bathing water, if you are living in a fluoridated community, you will still need to exercise caution when dining out, for the water served – and everything made with it, like coffee – will contain fluoride. The ultimate solution to the fluoride pollution problem, however, is to stop fluoridation.
http://www.healthcarealternatives.net/removingfluoride.
http://www.fluoridealert.org/NRC-Fluoride.htm
Chlorine/Chloramines:
Chlorine and Chloramines can do some serious damage to a microherd, in fact that is why they are in the water, to kill bacteria and disinfect. I have no desire to flood my soil with a disinfectant.

Chlorine (free chlorine) is simple, let is off-gas. It may take a couple days to a week sitting out, or if you add an airstone, around 24 hours. You can boil it off if you need some quick water (boiling won't take out everything, in fact it may make other things more concentrated see fluoride!) Reverse osmosis with a carbon filter will also remove chlorine.

Chloramines
(
Monochloramine - Chloramide - Chloroazane)
Chloramines will break down to chlorine (free chlorine) over time, roughly 1-3 weeks, you can speed up this process by adding organic material for the chloramines to attack, and an airstone to evaporate the free chlorine (may take 2-3 days.) I use molasses, only about 3 drops in a 5 gallon bucket. and whip it in well. You can remove them with reverse osmosis if you as well. (most of the treatments to remove fluoride will remove chloramines)

Heavy Metals:
Heavy Metals are gennerally not good for your plants, A small amount shouldn't hurt (unless you are reusing soil and having heavy metal build up) This is more of a well issue then a tap issue, as most municipalities keep these levels very low. Removing Heavy metals is best done at the source as you don't really want them in your water for anything. If you have heavy metal problems, you probably have more to worry about then your plants a home filter for your well will be the best bet.

My water has it all (besides the heavy metals) and a large RO filter was my final solution, however in the early days, I said hell with the fluoride and would add a couple drops molasses to my water then whip it with a big wisk for a few minutes, then let it sit for 2 days. It seemed to help but results were varied, however after I got the airstone in the bucket, 2 days and 0 chlorine. You can get test strips from pool supply or aquarium stores.

And before i start hearing "this is stupid grow hype" it isn't. Will your plants grow if you don't do these things? Absolutely. Are you spending hours screwing around trying to perfect your atmosphere for growing? Probably, so why not lock down one of the most important parts of your grow, the water?

Cheers RIU,

hope it helps someone along the way.
 

MalcolmMustang

Well-Known Member
good info but reverse osmosis alone will not remove chlorine unless it has a carbon filter to go with it. I agree that everyone should bubble their water to remove chlorine if they are not using a carbon filter. One of the best simplest upgrades you can get is a 7 dollar airpump and a 2 dollar airstone for your water supply. Yes even in soil.
 

doc111

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good info but reverse osmosis alone will not remove chlorine unless it has a carbon filter to go with it. I agree that everyone should bubble their water to remove chlorine if they are not using a carbon filter. One of the best simplest upgrades you can get is a 7 dollar airpump and a 2 dollar airstone for your water supply. Yes even in soil.
I have yet to see an R/O unit that DOESN'T have a carbon filter.
 

cannatricks

Well-Known Member
That's kinda what I thought, but good to have the extra info. Just in case someone does find a cheapy out there that doesn't.
 

doc111

Well-Known Member
That's kinda what I thought, but good to have the extra info. Just in case someone does find a cheapy out there that doesn't.
The main reason why they have to have a carbon prefilter is that Cl and Chloramines will destroy the membrane. I'm sure there are other chemicals that will also harm it, but those are the 2 biggies. If you see one that has no prefilters, it's not just a cheapy, it's a SCAM! :cuss:lol!
 

MalcolmMustang

Well-Known Member
Another thing I have noticed. For those of us using a rez with airstones to blow out the chlorine. If your airstones are too big or you let them run for too long in your water supply you will evaporate the majority of the iron in the water along with the chlorine. Unless you are using a lot of cal mag + with iron in it, then it will cause an iron def. I add my cal and mag separately so I rely on the trace amounts of iron in my water.
 

zo0t

New Member
yep thats why i use mineral natural water for my plants. yes iz expensive but i dont care i haz moneyz and i spray french sparkling water perier on ma lefz evian and perrier br0 phear me
 
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