Water: The Most Essential Compound

what should the water temprature be for the resivoir for an indoor grow 70 72 75 does anybody know

THIS THREAD SEEMS DEAD!!!!!!!!

Where the hell is doc111?????

Come back and finish what you started dude, i get involved in water, you give me a small science lesson then when i have questions you have dissapeared!!!!

Very rude dude and seems like only you had a comprehensive knowledge of water unlike the rest of this site who seem to just verge on a small basic understanding of water.

Seriously dude my questions are stacking up and google just dont have the answers i need, freaking read tons of sites and scientific papers and still i have not found some answers to my questions!!!

Someone call doc111 and ask him to get his ass back on this thread or close the thread for good, just a blag hoping that some one has answers to questions here. Even if you answered my questions i could keep this thread going with the knowledge i know about water but i have yet to slot the final peices into place!!!!

Bicarbonates are troubling me and i fail to see the inportance of why they are normally directly correlated to cal/mag and if pH'ing water takes these out of the equation with regards to soil alkalinity and even if there are safe levels of bicarbonates that we shouldn't exceed for water we give our plants.

I need a discussion not your wimpy little exscuses for leaving this thread open ended. I have little respect for someone who leaves me hanging after taking so much time and effort to disect the intracacies of the most essential compound water.

You taught me so much but yet not enough, sort your sh!t out and grow up, need help here not fresh air which is what i'm getting plenty of waiting for your sorry ass. Seriously annoyed that resources on this site manage to dwindle away, some of us never take anything for granted like you have with this thread.

Fabfun, sorry i know you tried but Doc111 is seriously hacked me off!!! Grrrrrrrrrrrr

RIU has been dead man lately all the old gurus seem to have pulled up shop either do to "rats" or just politics in other forums...kinda silly yes but it's true. I wish I had the answers for you but hopefully someone can help you out.

420Marine said:

RIU has been dead man lately all the old gurus seem to have pulled up shop either do to "rats" or just politics in other forums...kinda silly yes but it's true. I wish I had the answers for you but hopefully someone can help you out.

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If someone knows which site and username doc111 is using please post it here, he truly was a water GURU and the nicest kind, still had so much to learn from him, doc111 i will track you down somehow. Peace

wow is all I can say !!! I have been just using tap water left sitting out for a few days...guess I have a lot to learn...although my plants don't seem to be bothered by it...Ocassionally I use my goldfish water...

edsweed said:

ive tried rain water and tap water during a session and found that the rain water wasnt that great.. tap water did better in producing a better , healthier plant. nutes also kept the same for both.

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thats because rainwater dosent have much of anything in it and tap water more than likely contains all the goodies like calcium and magnesium with a few other choice ingredients. Peace

ellunitiko said:

You all are fucking ignorant. Youre supposed to use rubbing alcohol not water. Fucking die all of you

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Rubbing Alcohol contains 97.5-100% by volume of pure, concentrated ethanol (ethyl alcohol) or isopropyl alcohol (isopropanol).

Peacehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubbing_alcohol#cite_note-0

I have a quick question. If roots are looking for water lower in the ground when we water them from above ground then why not develop methods of watering under the roots???
Kinda like the earthbox but on a bigger scale to be able to grow a very robust monster 10 foot plant

inmoralast said:

I have a quick question. If roots are looking for water lower in the ground when we water them from above ground then why not develop methods of watering under the roots???
Kinda like the earthbox but on a bigger scale to be able to grow a very robust monster 10 foot plant

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Roots will travel sideways if you leave the container shallow, could have a mega long container although i feel it would be hard to water.

An earth box in principle isnt hard to build, people build bigger ones, there are ways. I believe ten foot isnt that big either for a monster plant, can go much bigger if you want. Peace

hm417308919kathy said:

Nicely done,thank you .

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You're welcome, and I'm back!!!!!!!

Hey the Doc's back!

Is my water usable as it comes out of the tap? Ph 7.03/ TDS 380ppm. It is crystal clear, tastes great, has no smell or color to it! Will be running a drain to waste system using coco as my medium, and Humboldt nutes. 3- 400w MH for veg. & 4- 1000w HPS for flowering. Room A/C at 72F w/ RH at 45%
TIA

25 years away said:

Is my water usable as it comes out of the tap? Ph 7.03/ TDS 380ppm. It is crystal clear, tastes great, has no smell or color to it! Will be running a drain to waste system using coco as my medium, and Humboldt nutes. 3- 400w MH for veg. & 4- 1000w HPS for flowering. Room A/C at 72F w/ RH at 45%
TIA

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If you're not experiencing any problems and are happy with your results then it must be usable.

Hard water usually tastes pretty good. These fancy bottled waters like Dasani and Smart Water are nothing more than distilled or reverse osmosis filtered tap water with Ca and Mg added back in for taste. You won't always be able to tell simply by taste alone whether or not water is suitable for growing. My tapwater is extremely hard yet it tastes pretty good. Best of luck my friend.

thnx for the info

So britta dosent actually take out minerals that you would want to keep ?Ive heard so many diff things. Theres no obvious problems with my water seeing how I can keep a plant to be green and healthy its whole life but threw the years Ive done the britta thing(got sick of buying filters) the let water sit on the counter for 36hrs then water thing(getting sick of cummin up short when watering need to wait 36hrs before you can resume watering) and ofcorse plain water from the faucet PHed and immediatly watered( witch is what id like to go back to doing because of its simplicity) Now is there any reason why or why not use it straight from the faucet?? If theres really a good reason to use britta I could go back to that as well. I always wondered what the better way is.

Crazy Tweeds1971 said:

So britta dosent actually take out minerals that you would want to keep ?Ive heard so many diff things. Theres no obvious problems with my water seeing how I can keep a plant to be green and healthy its whole life but threw the years Ive done the britta thing(got sick of buying filters) the let water sit on the counter for 36hrs then water thing(getting sick of cummin up short when watering need to wait 36hrs before you can resume watering) and ofcorse plain water from the faucet PHed and immediatly watered( witch is what id like to go back to doing because of its simplicity) Now is there any reason why or why not use it straight from the faucet?? If theres really a good reason to use britta I could go back to that as well. I always wondered what the better way is.

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Brittas are good at reducing the amount of Chlorine and they also reduce a little bit of Chloramine as well. They will also reduce some harmful things like lead and other heavy metals. They do NOT do anything to reduce Calcium or Magnesium (hardness). There are MANY growers who simply draw their water straight from the tap and water straight away without any waiting or aerating. The only way to know if your water is acceptable for doing this is to try it. Fact is most tapwater is fine for growing straight out of the tap. Many organic growers are concerned with Chlorine and Chloramine killing off beneficials, but this is a controversial topic and there is little to no evidence to support the fact that Chlorine and Chloramine have a significant effect on micro critters. It's true enough that these chemicals are in fact disinfectants but they are used in such miniscule quantities (generally) that they probably won't have any appreciable difference on most peoples' grow. Good luck my friend.

brita is a home drinking filter not a gardenijng quality. and like he said if 6yoiu dont grow organic and 99% dont even if they think they do. then filters dont bennefit or matter. most foods even if they say organci arent. they are organic based. and yes if then you do need filtered water and reg over the counter carbon ones dont do it. if its chloramine.

why is is a controveral topic on microbes get killed by chormines.. they do. all of us nute makers use filtered water. if you dont it wont work as the co makes it to work. if you dont filter water there is crap in it from tapos that effects how the food works. then you call the co or spam the net saying the food sux.....lol.
people will spend 400 on crap fem seed and get hermies all day long but nobody seems to pay attention to waster and filters for a couple hundred that last a long time. just for 1 the cal source isnt good for growing and will block other we add in a bottle. how much it effects will depend on each water source


buddy above with brita..it wasnt doing anything for you anyways as they use cheep carbon and wont deal with the chloramiens anyways. if orgqanci will depend on level of organics in the food and type and what amount of chloramine was in tap water. may not kill them all and it may. but ive seen many grows done well without filters and done for many years on my own.

I think a Brita filter is composed of some material with a super large surface area, it either filters or bonds certain elements to it like lead, aluminium etc etc. I believe there was some dispute since some used some kind of silver in them. After looking at them i didnt even want to drink water from them ever again. Peace

Kingrow1 said:

I think a Brita filter is composed of some material with a super large surface area, it either filters or bonds certain elements to it like lead, aluminium etc etc. I believe there was some dispute since some used some kind of silver in them. After looking at them i didnt even want to drink water from them ever again. Peace

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I think Brittas are basically activated carbon/sediment filters. They don't really do much for us growers but if it makes a grower feel better about their smoke............