WATERFARM SCROG!!!! ..first frightening waterfarm grow....Dr.Amber Frankenstien

Dr.Amber Trichome · Nov 20, 2011

update
things are still way too slow growing.its almost 2 weeks and i bearly have the second true leaves appearing.. i have my pump on and off to ease the rockwool overload of water.
I checked my rez today.. it was about 200 ppm but the ph had skyrocketed to 6.5

In desperate need of some sort of boost i took away a gallon from the rez and added back a gallon ph to 5.1 with 12 drops Root Excelorator and 250 ppm of Flora Nova GROW.
I will let you know how this one plays out for sure in the next couple days.. till then happy gardening.

Dropastone · Nov 20, 2011

Hey Ambs I think you said that you accidentally snipped off the tip of the root on your seedling. That may very well be the cause of your slow growth and it might just need some time to recover. Just a thought.

Have a nice day.

kevin murphy · Nov 21, 2011

Looking good following closely as always..

dr.amber trichome said:
today was a good dayice cubedsaw the police and they rolled right past me

i upped the wattage to 400. Lowered the light.

the deepblue wf bride is slow in growth. Sooooo
i turned the water pump off for several hours then on again in hopes of the rockwool drying out a little.
I emptied and refilled the rez. I added 150 ppm flora nova bloom ph at 5.8. Immediate run off was 150. Shes looking happy just really slow growing.

I bought some magical rocks to help keep the black plastic on my rockwool baby stay put. When i open the tent the blast of air has been blowing them off.
Im hoping this will be good fung shwayzy thingy for the grow area

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inside the waterfarmville world

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the bride (deepblue f3)

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purple wrek ..yo kev dawg watch this space

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deep blue f3 rock wool baby

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another db f3

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My finished scrog frame. Bring it on

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drawing in progresso

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piece
dr.amberzootski

Fuzznutz · Nov 21, 2011

Amb - As Drop suggested it could be your damaged root just trying to recover. You may need to give it another 7-10 days. If your root is recovered, then look at your TDS. Looks a little on the low side using GH (Lucas Formula).

Although many use just FN Bloom, I use FN Grow during veg then 1-2 weeks into flower start FN Bloom. You can go complete WF grow with just FN Bloom, but Lucas did some experimentation with both Grow and Bloom and had exceptional results. My gear just takes off in the FN Grow during veg. I love the rapid dark green growth that Grow provides in a WF.

This link is a great resource: http://www.cannabis-world.org/cw/showthread.php?t=892

BigBudzzzz · Nov 21, 2011

Sub'd Looking into the water farm

Dr.Amber Trichome · Nov 21, 2011

cool, ya might wanna look somewhere else though cuz this waterfarm is FRIGHTENING! lol... ive had a rough start buddy.. im not the best to follow thats 4 sure.BUT it sure is
nice to have ya hear biggy.. i was just laughing at you in the del66666 12/12 thread..funny shit over there as usual..

Dr.Amber Trichome · Nov 21, 2011

Fuzznutz said:
Amb - As Drop suggested it could be your damaged root just trying to recover. You may need to give it another 7-10 days. If your root is recovered, then look at your TDS. Looks a little on the low side using GH (Lucas Formula).

Although many use just FN Bloom, I use FN Grow during veg then 1-2 weeks into flower start FN Bloom. You can go complete WF grow with just FN Bloom, but Lucas did some experimentation with both Grow and Bloom and had exceptional results. My gear just takes off in the FN Grow during veg. I love the rapid dark green growth that Grow provides in a WF.

This link is a great resource: http://www.cannabis-world.org/cw/showthread.php?t=892

Thanks for the words of encouragement Dropastoner and thanks for the link Fuzzy.
i will check that site out.
I did decided to add some root excelarator and FNGrow.. even though i was planning on following the Scottyballs manual as closely as possible. Its a good guide if everything is perfect. But when unexpected problems occur, things dont get to stay so simple anymore. I just used my best judgement and added those suppliments. I am seeing some new excelarated growth, and she looks like she wants even more nutes.. so i will up the doseage tomorrow or the next day.
the rockwool babes are really thriving more as well with the root excelorator and the FNG. so i will just be as patient as possible and see how this plays out..
yeah, i really like dark green leaves.. they always seem to elude me.

BigBudzzzz · Nov 22, 2011

Dr.Amber Trichome said:
cool, ya might wanna look somewhere else though cuz this waterfarm is FRIGHTENING! lol... ive had a rough start buddy.. im not the best to follow thats 4 sure.BUT it sure is
nice to have ya hear biggy.. i was just laughing at you in the del66666 12/12 thread..funny shit over there as usual..

Yeah Im enjoying the 12/12 grow alot and plus i need to build up my stock so wtf may as well go for it. Well if i follow you at least I'll learn what not to do huh? LoL... :mrgreen:

forgetiwashere · Nov 22, 2011

i agree with fuzznuts the nova grow makes them grow so much quicker and lusher imo. check out my grow if you want its a rookie effort but u will see wen i post an update tomorrow how much growth i have had since switching to nova grow

Bluejeans · Nov 22, 2011

Dr.Amber Trichome said:
cool, ya might wanna look somewhere else though cuz this waterfarm is FRIGHTENING! lol... ive had a rough start buddy.. im not the best to follow thats 4 sure.BUT it sure is
nice to have ya hear biggy.. i was just laughing at you in the del66666 12/12 thread..funny shit over there as usual..

That's not true, Amber. The best journals to follow if you have never done something are the ones where the OP made mistakes... if everybody I followed did everything right and had perfect grows, how would I learn to cope when *I* make mistakes (which I do with alarming regularity!!!). The fact that you are still fighting to make this little girl into the lady she is destined to be gives hope to other newbie growers.

Stick in there, chickie, you're going great and it's good for the troops to see someone with enough guts to continue to post even though things aren't going perfectly. These are the threads that help the most!

The Dawg · Nov 22, 2011

Bluejeans said:
That's not true, Amber. The best journals to follow if you have never done something are the ones where the OP made mistakes... if everybody I followed did everything right and had perfect grows, how would I learn to cope when *I* make mistakes (which I do with alarming regularity!!!). The fact that you are still fighting to make this little girl into the lady she is destined to be gives hope to other newbie growers.

Stick in there, chickie, you're going great and it's good for the troops to see someone with enough guts to continue to post even though things aren't going perfectly. These are the threads that help the most!

I Have To Agree With The Growing Granny.What Doesn't Kill Your Girls will Make Them Stronger And You Can Learn From Your Mistakes.I Woke Up This Am And 1 Of My Pumps Blew A Hose So My Hydroton Was Bone Dry.So I Hooked It Back Up And Watered The Hydroton.Now It's A Wait And See If My Seedling Will Respond.Keep On Keeping On Girlfriend Good Luck.Peace :peace:

Tmac4302 · Nov 22, 2011

Hey Amber, I recently started using a waterfarm too and they can be pretty intimidating, but I think what happens most of the time is we over think alot of it. I know I did atleast. I went through 3 or 4 seedlings before I got one to really take off in that system. I over watered one and drowned one. The other I dropped a CFL on top of and broke the root from the stem. I think you get the point. We all have our own learning curve. lol So I figured I would give you some helpful tips I have learned thus far. Don't worry about the pH too much. 5.5 - 7 is about normal for young growth. Alot of the times I find that the increase in pH is okay for the plant. It needs a pH that matches up well with the absorption rate of nitrogen (vegetative growth) and phosphorus (root development). If you get it any where that allows those, you'll be great! I find that the younger seeds kinda like the higher end pH too. So try not too be too over attentive about the pH. She will tell you by weird warping of her leaves if she isn't liking the pH. Listen to her.

As far as watering goes. I suggest not using the pump till you have your second tier of leaves or your second true node. Especially if your using pretty thick rock wool like you are. Hand water it till then. She will love you for it. Then you can turn on the air pump and watch her go. I hope these tips help. I know they would have helped me in the beginning.

Here's a picture of my lovely lady.

SmoochieBoochies · Nov 22, 2011

Hey Amber, dropped by, saw this, had a good laugh, thought of your avi.

[video=youtube;_eJ6wwVljTE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=_eJ6wwVljTE[/video]

Cindyguygrower · Nov 22, 2011

looking ok here Doc. Really hope you overcome any feeding/lighting prob's, and we can see you'r Deep Blue's Perform.
Ive got faith in them, and in a couple moon's you can sit toking n chokin on em and laugh about these ( temp. ) issues.

Peace out Ambz

cinder's

Dr.Amber Trichome · Nov 22, 2011

Bluejeans said:
That's not true, Amber. The best journals to follow if you have never done something are the ones where the OP made mistakes... if everybody I followed did everything right and had perfect grows, how would I learn to cope when *I* make mistakes (which I do with alarming regularity!!!). The fact that you are still fighting to make this little girl into the lady she is destined to be gives hope to other newbie growers.

Stick in there, chickie, you're going great and it's good for the troops to see someone with enough guts to continue to post even though things aren't going perfectly. These are the threads that help the most!

Thank you so much for your kind words of inspiration. and i agree with you. I think its important to problem slove what others might find failure. Because thats how you learn, from your mistakes. i make a lot of mistakes as well. your very cool chick.your no photoperiod bitch! no way! another hysterical del666666 subscriber.. your so funny Bluezy.

Dr.Amber Trichome · Nov 22, 2011

The Dawg said:
I Have To Agree With The Growing Granny.What Doesn't Kill Your Girls will Make Them Stronger And You Can Learn From Your Mistakes.I Woke Up This Am And 1 Of My Pumps Blew A Hose So My Hydroton Was Bone Dry.So I Hooked It Back Up And Watered The Hydroton.Now It's A Wait And See If My Seedling Will Respond.Keep On Keeping On Girlfriend Good Luck.Peace

that is so good to know! yes! yes! im so glad you were creative enough to come up with a quick fix. Good LUck to you and thanks for the kind words. Peace oowt

Dr.Amber Trichome · Nov 22, 2011

Tmac4302 said:
Hey Amber, I recently started using a waterfarm too and they can be pretty intimidating, but I think what happens most of the time is we over think alot of it. I know I did atleast. I went through 3 or 4 seedlings before I got one to really take off in that system. I over watered one and drowned one. The other I dropped a CFL on top of and broke the root from the stem. I think you get the point. We all have our own learning curve. lol So I figured I would give you some helpful tips I have learned thus far. Don't worry about the pH too much. 5.5 - 7 is about normal for young growth. Alot of the times I find that the increase in pH is okay for the plant. It needs a pH that matches up well with the absorption rate of nitrogen (vegetative growth) and phosphorus (root development). If you get it any where that allows those, you'll be great! I find that the younger seeds kinda like the higher end pH too. So try not too be too over attentive about the pH. She will tell you by weird warping of her leaves if she isn't liking the pH. Listen to her. As far as watering goes. I suggest not using the pump till you have your second tier of leaves or your second true node. Especially if your using pretty thick rock wool like you are. Hand water it till then. She will love you for it. Then you can turn on the air pump and watch her go. I hope these tips help. I know they would have helped me in the beginning.

Here's a picture of my lovely lady.
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THank you for the wonderful tips. If you have anymore tips i will be glad to take them because i will have at least a few curves if not more to concour. you have come such a great distance . im so impressed with your motivation and determination. your have a beautiful girl.
have you concidered doing a journal? I would like to subscribe. if you ever need a plaace to show her, shes always welcomed here.
peace amber

Dr.Amber Trichome · Nov 22, 2011

SmoochieBoochies said:
Hey Amber, dropped by, saw this, had a good laugh, thought of your avi.

[video=youtube;_eJ6wwVljTE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=_eJ6wwVljTE[/video]

lol..love that MONSTER MAGNET SONG!!!!! and the Bride of Chucky is one of my favorite movies of all time. thanks for posting it SmoochieBoochie with the space cadet glow.lol

Dr.Amber Trichome · Nov 22, 2011

Cindyguygrower said:
looking ok here Doc. Really hope you overcome any feeding/lighting prob's, and we can see you'r Deep Blue's Perform.
Ive got faith in them, and in a couple moon's you can sit toking n chokin on em and laugh about these ( temp. ) issues.

Peace out Ambz

cinder's

nice positive words of reinforcement are always so nice to hear. tokin and chokin on some exodus cheeze, deep blue, pineapple chuck, purple wreck, BUBBLEBOMB!

Dr.Amber Trichome · Nov 22, 2011

I turn my water pump off for 6 hours.. the time the light is off.
I took out a gallon of water and added back one gallon of water with 300ppm of Flora Nova GRow. and 12 drops of root excorator and im finally getting some good growth and greenery. finally.. My second true leaves finally formed and it looks like the 3 rd are taking NO time to start growing out as well.. :weed:

My rockwool babys are getting even bigger with this same feed. but i think ph might be tweeking the leaves a bit so i m thinkin that might be ph related. they still look happy and so am I! :joint: