WATERFARM SCROG!!!! ..first frightening waterfarm grow....Dr.Amber Frankenstien

GreenGiant49 · Dec 3, 2011

Oh my! The nail polish!! grin!

I just thought of something that might help you with the WF. I have mine sitting on two milk crates. It bring the farm up to waist height, making inspection and draining much more easy.

I put in a large stone to get the most air in. But you know, we did get quite a few people saying it was not necessary. And it will be somewhat difficult to add it now, so I would forget it for this grow. I would also just keep the water ring pumping as it is, im not sure adding more air here would help much. I could make the splattering worse. But if you are curious (i know you are ....), hook it up and see. Would be easy to hook up and easy to remove it you did not like it.

What are you plans for the plants in the big rock wool cubes.

GG

GreenGiant49 · Dec 3, 2011

I was in a panic the last two days. When inspecting my roots I noticed they were not white like they are supposed to be. And I think the nutes maybe a little warmer than they should be. Oh, Amber, great find with that oil drain tub! So, I have been researching root rot. Discovered that I dont have rot symptoms. She drinks well, ph is not dropping, plant looks ok. Thankfully I found that GH Micro can STAIN the roots brown! I feel so much better now!!! GG

Dr.Amber Trichome · Dec 3, 2011

GreenGiant49 said:
I was in a panic the last two days. When inspecting my roots I noticed they were not white like they are supposed to be. And I think the nutes maybe a little warmer than they should be. Oh, Amber, great find with that oil drain tub! So, I have been researching root rot. Discovered that I dont have rot symptoms. She drinks well, ph is not dropping, plant looks ok. Thankfully I found that GH Micro can STAIN the roots brown! I feel so much better now!!! GG

GG you worry so much about your plants. Its nice to see someone that has so much passion for their plants as you do. Thats good research GG about the roots getting stained by Flora Nova Products.
Try to get your rez temps up if you can by purchasing that oil tray at walmart. And let me know how it works.

My plants in the rockwool cubes are backups for the waterfarm incase she turns out to be a he. I will pulle her out and then put one of the other ones in to his empty spot if need be. Im thinking about topping them all ...what do you think???? . im going to brutize these girls and need to know when a good time to start would be.

peace GG

GreenGiant49 · Dec 3, 2011

Dr.Amber Trichome said:
. Im thinking about topping them all ...what do you think???? . im going to brutize these girls and need to know when a good time to start would be.

peace GG

Hi A. Initially I was not going to prune my plants at all. But then I succumbed to the potential for a higher yield. I did some research and decided to try the FIM technique.

"The FIM Technique was coined by an anonymous High Times reader from South Carolina in the July 2000 issue of the magazine. The technique became legendary. ever since the grower wrote: “this pruning technique could revolutionize indoor gardening.”

Its pretty much a pinch of the top growing tip, but dont take it all, leave 10 to 20 %

"bottom ten percent of the bud remains intact. This is the key to FIM pruning. Many different flowering tops form as a result of this single pruning. According to FIM afficionados, terminal buds put on much more weight and are more dense."

Do a Google search on it and check it out. I just did mine, so I dont know how it will work out. The leaves nearest to the FIM look a little stressed, but this could be due to something else....

But with only one plant, I thought it would be worth doing something to increase the harvest.

GG

Bluejeans · Dec 3, 2011

GreenGiant49 said:
I was in a panic the last two days. When inspecting my roots I noticed they were not white like they are supposed to be. And I think the nutes maybe a little warmer than they should be. Oh, Amber, great find with that oil drain tub! So, I have been researching root rot. Discovered that I dont have rot symptoms. She drinks well, ph is not dropping, plant looks ok. Thankfully I found that GH Micro can STAIN the roots brown! I feel so much better now!!! GG

Well slap me down. I didn't know that! I had the same issues with my Kaya Gold and was scared to death of her roots turning brown, but I am using FloraMicro (and I hate that disgusting looking stuff). The plant itself seems fine but the roots were worrying me. Thank you SO much for sharing that. I feel 100% better about that plant.

forgetiwashere · Dec 3, 2011

GreenGiant49 said:
Oh my! The nail polish!! grin!

I just thought of something that might help you with the WF. I have mine sitting on two milk crates. It bring the farm up to waist height, making inspection and draining much more easy.

I put in a large stone to get the most air in. But you know, we did get quite a few people saying it was not necessary. And it will be somewhat difficult to add it now, so I would forget it for this grow. I would also just keep the water ring pumping as it is, im not sure adding more air here would help much. I could make the splattering worse. But if you are curious (i know you are ....), hook it up and see. Would be easy to hook up and easy to remove it you did not like it.

What are you plans for the plants in the big rock wool cubes.

GG

hahaha thats not nail polish i believe what your seeing there is her green thumb lol

Tmac4302 · Dec 4, 2011

GreenGiant49 said:
Hi A. Initially I was not going to prune my plants at all. But then I succumbed to the potential for a higher yield. I did some research and decided to try the FIM technique.

"The FIM Technique was coined by an anonymous High Times reader from South Carolina in the July 2000 issue of the magazine. The technique became legendary. ever since the grower wrote: “this pruning technique could revolutionize indoor gardening.”

Its pretty much a pinch of the top growing tip, but dont take it all, leave 10 to 20 %

"bottom ten percent of the bud remains intact. This is the key to FIM pruning. Many different flowering tops form as a result of this single pruning. According to FIM afficionados, terminal buds put on much more weight and are more dense."

Do a Google search on it and check it out. I just did mine, so I dont know how it will work out. The leaves nearest to the FIM look a little stressed, but this could be due to something else....

But with only one plant, I thought it would be worth doing something to increase the harvest.

GG

The one problem I have with FIMing over topping is the inconsistency in the results. You honestly won't know what the outcome will be because its such a hit or miss type of deal. Whereas with topping you pretty much know off the bat what will happen according to what node you cut it at. I MUCH prefer topping and I would definitely suggest it to you, Doc. Like how indoor growing is, controlling your entire environment and the growth of a plant, it just makes sense to stick with topping. You can control the results better, imo. Check out Uncle Ben's Topping thread. He pretty much lays it all out there within the first 5 pages or so. The first page sold me! https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/151706-uncle-bens-topping-technique-get.html

But to each their own.

DST · Dec 4, 2011

Fimming can work out great, here's is a pic of a Male Kush that was fimmed not so long ago (pic taken this week). I tend not to fim too much, I prefer to tie things down rather than chop :shock:

You can get some wierd growth on the new leaves when you fim, but it all works out. Like scrog'sI think you then need to try and concentrate all growth into the various dominant tops where energy is being spread down from.

GreenGiant49 said:
Hi A. Initially I was not going to prune my plants at all. But then I succumbed to the potential for a higher yield. I did some research and decided to try the FIM technique.

"The FIM Technique was coined by an anonymous High Times reader from South Carolina in the July 2000 issue of the magazine. The technique became legendary. ever since the grower wrote: this pruning technique could revolutionize indoor gardening.

Its pretty much a pinch of the top growing tip, but dont take it all, leave 10 to 20 %

"bottom ten percent of the bud remains intact. This is the key to FIM pruning. Many different flowering tops form as a result of this single pruning. According to FIM afficionados, terminal buds put on much more weight and are more dense."

Do a Google search on it and check it out. I just did mine, so I dont know how it will work out. The leaves nearest to the FIM look a little stressed, but this could be due to something else....

But with only one plant, I thought it would be worth doing something to increase the harvest.

GG

GreenGiant49 · Dec 4, 2011

Bluejeans said:
Well slap me down. I didn't know that! I had the same issues with my Kaya Gold and was scared to death of her roots turning brown, but I am using FloraMicro (and I hate that disgusting looking stuff). The plant itself seems fine but the roots were worrying me. Thank you SO much for sharing that. I feel 100% better about that plant.

SLAP!! Yes, Gen Hydro Flora Micro!! That is the offending stuff! You are right, it IS nasty! I sit here typing with stained fingers..... One tip, with the micro, I bought a condiment container at Walmart. Having the micro in that took all the mess away! Easy to dispense, no leaks, no drops.

Tmac4302 · Dec 4, 2011

Here's an update on my girl, Amber.

Topped at the second node and LST'd the main 4 nodes.

I topped her last week and she;s on week 3 now!

GreenGiant49 · Dec 4, 2011

Tmac4302 said:
Here's an update on my girl, Amber. Topped at the second node and LST'd the main 4 nodes.

I topped her last week and she;s on week 3 now!

Nice looking girls! What is LST? Low Stress Tying? I see the holes for tying .... Plants look healthy. What nutes are you using? PPM? I think I remember you saying that you had no airstone. How long do you run the drip ring. Im (and others) alway like to know what successful growers are doing!

GreenGiant49 · Dec 4, 2011

Tmac4302 said:
https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/151706-uncle-bens-topping-technique-get.html[/url]

But to each their own.

Amber, as Tmac says, for sure, check out uncle bens technique. It sure seems like it works, and seems pretty easy to do and not screw it up! GG

Tmac4302 · Dec 4, 2011

GreenGiant49 said:
Nice looking girls! What is LST? Low Stress Tying? I see the holes for tying .... Plants look healthy. What nutes are you using? PPM? I think I remember you saying that you had no airstone. How long do you run the drip ring. Im (and others) alway like to know what successful growers are doing!

Yup, you got it. I just loop a string around a node, gently pull it back and tie it. I gradually do this till I get them to the width I want. Then you let them grow vertical.

I'm using Advanced Nutrients 3 part grow/micro/bloom with the B vitamin supplement (B-52) and the beneficial bacteria (Voodoo Juice). PPM's are at 540 right now. And actually because of you air stone users, I have decided to put one in the reservoir.

Originally, I had the drip ring on for 24/7. Now since the air stone is in there, I'm putting the air stone on for 24/7 and the drip ring on during lights on. I'm still contemplating whether or not to leave the drip ring on with the air stone as well.

jon101 · Dec 4, 2011

This is where a 1" X 1" rockwool cube can come in handy, just use a nail to plant seeds, until they root after germination, keep in tent with humdity and grow light, and then plant the rockwool cube in the waterfarm and keep ph 5.5-5.8.

GreenGiant49 · Dec 4, 2011

Tmac4302 said:
And actually because of you air stone users, I have decided to put one in the reservoir. Originally, I had the drip ring on for 24/7. Now since the air stone is in there, I'm putting the air stone on for 24/7 and the drip ring on during lights on. I'm still contemplating whether or not to leave the drip ring on with the air stone as well.

Glad to hear that you joined the bubble club. Our personalities are just so bubbly!

The air stone cant hurt, and if truth be told, there are some here that ONLY have bubblers, they have no drip rings at all.

GG

Dr.Amber Trichome · Dec 4, 2011

FIM OR TOP??
i have performed both techniques before,sometimes succesffully sometimes not.
Inspired by dst's beautiful male fimming job i tried to fim. it looked too wierd so i topped. them all.
bongsmilie

this page in the cerventes bible always freaks me out.
I did the best i could .Here is what i did

I topped below what i think i could or should have. This is the best picture though. I like it alot. The reason i topped this here is because i would like 4 main colas and Uncle Ben said it need to be done on the 5-6 node..this i think this was the correct place.
This is my waterfarm girlly. It was a really traumatic thing for me to do to her. It was really intense, the energy at this time was INTENSE..haha..i could feel them scream but i sent visions of a beautiful future there way .. so it was koo. :peace:

looks ok? i hope she looks like brokenturtles jack herrer :peace:

Leaf discoloration. I think either ph too low or too much nutes.

this leaf discoloration is on one of my purple wreks.

the rockwool babys all got topped.

thank you for the terrific links and bubbly advice. :peace:

im discontiuning the use of the floa nova micro.. Its too damaging to the roots color, which i dont like at all. Its messy and BluJ..ur right its really nasty looking. i dont want to feed it to them anymore after discussing all this with ya'll. Im going to boost my vitamins and minerals with the Earth Jiuce that i have been using for a while. Its clear and has all the same ingredients besides the exta Nitrogen. :peace:

oh boy, thats thc cotton candy , some Granddaddy Purpls hash and Some simpsons oil ..yummmy

Tmac4302 · Dec 4, 2011

Dr.Amber Trichome said:
FIM OR TOP??
i have performed both techniques before,sometimes succesffully sometimes not.
Inspired by dst's beautiful male fimming job i tried to fim. it looked too wierd so i topped. them all.

this page in the cerventes bible always freaks me out.
I did the best i could .Here is what i did

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I topped below what i think i could or should have. This is the best picture though. I like it alot. The reason i topped this here is because i would like 4 main colas and Uncle Ben said it need to be done on the 5-6 node..this i think this was the correct place.
This is my waterfarm girlly. It was a really traumatic thing for me to do to her. It was really intense, the energy at this time was INTENSE..haha..i could feel them scream but i sent visions of a beautiful future there way .. so it was koo.

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looks ok? i hope she looks like brokenturtles jack herrer

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Leaf discoloration. I think either ph too low or too much nutes.

this leaf discoloration is on one of my purple wreks.

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the rockwool babys all got topped.

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thank you for the terrific links and bubbly advice.

im discontiuning the use of the floa nova micro.. Its too damaging to the roots color, which i dont like at all. Its messy and BluJ..ur right its really nasty looking. i dont want to feed it to them anymore after discussing all this with ya'll. Im going to boost my vitamins and minerals with the Earth Jiuce that i have been using for a while. Its clear and has all the same ingredients besides the exta Nitrogen.

oh boy, thats thc cotton candy , some Granddaddy Purpls hash and Some simpsons oil ..yummmy

Looking good, Amber.

The light green-yellow could be your ladies telling you they want more nitrogen. The topping looks like it will definitely pay off. Just gotta let them heal and do their thing. Good vibes sending your way from the Midwest!

Btw, your goodies look very medicating. Although I've never tried the medicinal cotton candy before.

Dr.Amber Trichome · Dec 4, 2011

eating it as i type.. oh no its a sativa rick simpson oil!!! hahah, i just noticed this packaging had the cool tch ingredients included ...how koewl is that!
im lucky to have such great medicine in my area.
just blew off a lame chrimbo party to eat a bunch of greasy food at a rib joint in town.. came home for some tch cotton candy for desssert and now i is goin to feed my hungary ass 12/12 huge colas some hammerhead for their last feed before i start a flush flush..
have a splendid work week. happy hoidaze shopping , have fun blazing it up.!
greetings to the midwest! stay warm and fuzzy...lol :hug:

Dr.Amber Trichome · Dec 4, 2011

well i ate the cotton candy and it didnt do NOTHIN!! but give me a bloody headache... im glad i didnt pay for it!
on the other hand the hash...hehehe..was spec tack u lar!!!

brandon727272 · Dec 4, 2011

That's lame that the cotton candy didn't work

. The FIM looks great as do your plants, I'm sure they're flourishing with all the love you're giving them. Happy holidays to you too Doc, I can't wait for christmas break myself

. Here's our baby Adele

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