WATERFARM SCROG!!!! ..first frightening waterfarm grow....Dr.Amber Frankenstien

CEEJR · Feb 7, 2012

Dr.Amber Trichome said:
thanks for the suggestions Scotty.
wow, i didnt realize robbie drowned his lemon. last i saw he was battleing spider mites but i was wondering why his buds looked under deveoped.
I really dont think an air stone at this point will do any good.
I can hear the bubbleing in the rez so i know its getting plenty of air in there.
and placing an airstone wont really make a big differnce i think . The roots are soo damn packed like bricks in there rez i know it , i know it.. so any circulation back up into the top is very difficut. but im sure she is getting a decent amount of oxygen below from the sounds of it.

the one draw back on this waterfarm unit is def the size of the bucket i think. If my tent were smaller and the plant smaller, no prob,
I dont know..

My farm is stoneless and I pulled 7.1 zips off the Ladyburn last month and Mr Ballz dosen't use one either and look what he grew with 400 watts and the little magic bucket.

scotia1982 · Feb 7, 2012

I've only used it once in my last, pulled 6.5oz 12/12 from seed, i've used dwc also tho with good results... I've saw things happen to peoples farms without them so what harm do they do??? If you have a root ball and you totally submerged under the water with no oxygen what would happen????? It would drown, in a waterfarm it only holds what?? 11-15 ltrs somethin like that. So you can only fill with what 5-7 ltrs because of the root, if you have an airstone you can still fill all the way up without worrying ad feeding so often. Ur pump for the drip ring doesnt supply oxygen to the water, it only forces water from the res up the pole n out the dripper.

Thats my take on things anyway, if somethings not goin to cause harm what harm can it do?????

CEEJR · Feb 7, 2012

scotia1982 said:
I've only used it once in my last, pulled 6.5oz 12/12 from seed, i've used dwc also tho with good results... I've saw things happen to peoples farms without them so what harm do they do??? If you have a root ball and you totally submerged under the water with no oxygen what would happen????? It would drown, in a waterfarm it only holds what?? 11-15 ltrs somethin like that. So you can only fill with what 5-7 ltrs because of the root, if you have an airstone you can still fill all the way up without worrying ad feeding so often. Ur pump for the drip ring dotesnt supply oxygen to the water, it only forces water from the res up the pole n out the dripper
Thats my take on things anyway, if somethings not goin to cause harm what harm can it do?????[/QUOTE
The pump puts air into the water at the base of the drip ring tube causing the oxygenated water bubbles to rise up the tube and flow out the ring
that water is as oxygenated as its going to get based ln the water temp. You can use one if you want but when the rootball gets huge I really dlnt think the airstone is going to do much as it will be buried under the roots.

scotia1982 · Feb 7, 2012

A think we'l agree to disagree on this one. My root ball in my aquafarm pulled the airstone from the.bottom into the middle of.the ball so if that dnt tell u its doin good and likes it a dnt know what does¿¿

Tmac4302 · Feb 7, 2012

scotia1982 said:
I've only used it once in my last, pulled 6.5oz 12/12 from seed, i've used dwc also tho with good results... I've saw things happen to peoples farms without them so what harm do they do??? If you have a root ball and you totally submerged under the water with no oxygen what would happen????? It would drown, in a waterfarm it only holds what?? 11-15 ltrs somethin like that. So you can only fill with what 5-7 ltrs because of the root, if you have an airstone you can still fill all the way up without worrying ad feeding so often. Ur pump for the drip ring doesnt supply oxygen to the water, it only forces water from the res up the pole n out the dripper.

Thats my take on things anyway, if somethings not goin to cause harm what harm can it do?????

The oxygen is supplied to the water through the surface to surface contact from the drip ring. As the air pump bubbles water through the drip ring, it travels down the hydroton down to the reservoir. As it comes in contact with the reservoir water to be recirculated, 95% of the oxygenation occurs at that point. Recirculating systems provides plenty of O2 to your roots. Remember, it's not how much water your roots are sitting in but how much oxygen is in the solution. With reservoir temps in the 60's and low 70's, the solution should retain the oxygen from the surface to surface contact without a problem. However, I would argue that the air stone can save your life if your combating high temps and anaerobic bacteria. Bennies helps with that too though.

mike91sr · Feb 7, 2012

I'm with scotia, regardless of how oxygenated the water is that comes out of the drip ring, DO is not the same thing as oxygen rising from a stone through roots. You don't need to dissolve the oxygen into water to make it accessible to the plant. Not sure about the logic on "no air stones=just as much aeration" honestly. So while your DO may be just as high as mine, I'm pumping an additional 110lpm of oxygen across my roots. You tell me which plant is going to have more oxygen available(not that mine will turn out any better after I royally fuck everything else up lol)

scotia1982 · Feb 7, 2012

Ur missing the point!! As ambz says the water isnt comin through.the ring properly,whether it gains oxygen goin through the dripper or not. If its not.comin through the dripper properly then there's no oxygen?? Am i right or am i havin a major stoner moment?? Am sayin if an airstone is placed in the res then if the dripper fails to drip an adequate amount of oxygenated water then the plant will survive as a deep water culture!! Not drown!!

scotia1982 · Feb 7, 2012

Sorry Ambz looks like av started an aqua/waterfarm war on ur thread pal ;-)

lol

Dr.Amber Trichome · Feb 7, 2012

its alright mate, its all good.
well i got my offer letter for employment today. I have to sell my house asap. I will be flushing eveything now and chopping this weekend.
i thought i might be able to draw this out but i cant have people come look at my house with plants in full bloom.
the purple wrecks are pretty close to done, so i will hang them buds to dry.
the deep blue aint done, i dont know what to do.. hang it to dry as buds? i fuckin hate making hash, im not good at it yet. what should i do with the buds???
they are pretty thick, mostly clear some cloudy trichs.
fuckin a ...i had like 3 crumbs of my canna cookie has and im flying high. im itchy all over and my sences are amplified like im trippin a little.
catch ya later.

DST · Feb 8, 2012

Dr.Amber Trichome said:
its alright mate, its all good.
well i got my offer letter for employment today. I have to sell my house asap. I will be flushing eveything now and chopping this weekend.
i thought i might be able to draw this out but i cant have people come look at my house with plants in full bloom.
the purple wrecks are pretty close to done, so i will hang them buds to dry.
the deep blue aint done, i dont know what to do.. hang it to dry as buds? i fuckin hate making hash, im not good at it yet. what should i do with the buds???
they are pretty thick, mostly clear some cloudy trichs.
fuckin a ...i had like 3 crumbs of my canna cookie has and im flying high. im itchy all over and my sences are amplified like im trippin a little.
catch ya later.

Hey Ambs,

Your tent is in your garage right? How much interest will potential viewers have in your garage? Buy a load of removal boxes and then when you have people coming to view (hopefully you will have - not sure what the market is like your end, but it's hard in most plaes to sell). Then just surround the tent with the boxes, (making sure to put away the ducting you have (you will only have 1 tent by this point right?) It's just going to look like you are packing things up so no one is going to be suspicious. Hell you can even leave the fan and filter running and just have a small radio playing in there. Remember you and Mr Trichome where in the stinky room for quite a few minutes before you even realised my grow was behind that door!!! It can be done I think....by the time you get the house on the market, potential viewers etc, it's going to be another week or so anyway....I think you should ride it out as long as possible (you are going to loose a fair bit of cash pulling that thing early.

Anyway, just a suggestion.

PEace, DST

The Dawg · Feb 8, 2012

DST said:
Hey Ambs,

Your tent is in your garage right? How much interest will potential viewers have in your garage? Buy a load of removal boxes and then when you have people coming to view (hopefully you will have - not sure what the market is like your end, but it's hard in most plaes to sell). Then just surround the tent with the boxes, (making sure to put away the ducting you have (you will only have 1 tent by this point right?) It's just going to look like you are packing things up so no one is going to be suspicious. Hell you can even leave the fan and filter running and just have a small radio playing in there. Remember you and Mr Trichome where in the stinky room for quite a few minutes before you even realised my grow was behind that door!!! It can be done I think....by the time you get the house on the market, potential viewers etc, it's going to be another week or so anyway....I think you should ride it out as long as possible (you are going to loose a fair bit of cash pulling that thing early.

Anyway, just a suggestion.

PEace, DST

Yea I Second What DST Said.But If You Feel Its To Risky Murder Her!! :cry:

Peace And Its A Sad Sad day :-(

The Dawg · Feb 8, 2012

Psst Doc Round 1 Harvest Pic Are Posted.Peace And Prayers For The Blue Dream. :leaf:

CEEJR · Feb 8, 2012

scotia1982 said:
Ur missing the point!! As ambz says the water isnt comin through.the ring properly,whether it gains oxygen goin through the dripper or not. If its not.comin through the dripper properly then there's no oxygen?? Am i right or am i havin a major stoner moment?? Am sayin if an airstone is placed in the res then if the dripper fails to drip an adequate amount of oxygenated water then the plant will survive as a deep water culture!! Not drown!!

I have found that if the ring is not dripping remove air line from pump and blow into the hose and if the clog is down in the res it will unclog it. If its the ring you can take it off and clean it out.

ohmy · Feb 8, 2012

Dr.Amber Trichome said:
its alright mate, its all good.
well i got my offer letter for employment today. I have to sell my house asap. I will be flushing eveything now and chopping this weekend.
i thought i might be able to draw this out but i cant have people come look at my house with plants in full bloom.
the purple wrecks are pretty close to done, so i will hang them buds to dry.
the deep blue aint done, i dont know what to do.. hang it to dry as buds? i fuckin hate making hash, im not good at it yet. what should i do with the buds???
they are pretty thick, mostly clear some cloudy trichs.
fuckin a ...i had like 3 crumbs of my canna cookie has and im flying high. im itchy all over and my sences are amplified like im trippin a little.
catch ya later.

Awwws, I sad to see you have to kill everything . Really hope the move is for the better for ya, Wish my cookies did that to me, I was losing weight ..lol doctor told me I was fat and now I am eating cana cookies lmao, Wish I was close to ya to help out....OHMY

Dr.Amber Trichome · Feb 9, 2012

DST said:
Hey Ambs,

Your tent is in your garage right? How much interest will potential viewers have in your garage? Buy a load of removal boxes and then when you have people coming to view (hopefully you will have - not sure what the market is like your end, but it's hard in most plaes to sell). Then just surround the tent with the boxes, (making sure to put away the ducting you have (you will only have 1 tent by this point right?) It's just going to look like you are packing things up so no one is going to be suspicious. Hell you can even leave the fan and filter running and just have a small radio playing in there. Remember you and Mr Trichome where in the stinky room for quite a few minutes before you even realised my grow was behind that door!!! It can be done I think....by the time you get the house on the market, potential viewers etc, it's going to be another week or so anyway....I think you should ride it out as long as possible (you are going to loose a fair bit of cash pulling that thing early.

Anyway, just a suggestion.

PEace, DST

EXELLENT SUGGESTION DST!!!!!!!!!!!
THANKS!!!!!
the garage is actually the best part of my house!lol.. its probebly whats going to sell my house. so i have to make it look good.
its the reason i bought the house in the first place. lol..
i will try my best to keep her going as long as possible. this is going to be CRAXY! i will just disasemble the ducting if anyone comes. I got her sleeping from 6 am to 6pm anyways so it will not interupt her beauty sleep. lol
im also thinking i can hold out on the purple wrecks a bit more too.
Im going to disassemble their tent this weekend . I am preesently drowning them! hahah
and im going to try to drown them in the dark in my SHED. i hope it doesnt get too cold. I will stash them in there if anyone comes look at the house and keep them in the shed when i have visitors.
the purple wrecks ppm are in the 3000's so they really need time to get the nutes out of their systems.

Dr.Amber Trichome · Feb 9, 2012

CEEJR said:
I have found that if the ring is not dripping remove air line from pump and blow into the hose and if the clog is down in the res it will unclog it. If its the ring you can take it off and clean it out.

i did and its clear as can be. the extra air pump is pumping air down into the lower res.. thats why i can here gurgling sounds. the drip ring is still slow even with the adjustment but its all im going to do, she still looks great , i see absolutely no ill effects still, and i am hoping to chop her in no more than 2 weeks. i really hope..

SCOTTYBALLS · Feb 9, 2012

Looking good just droping in to see whats been going on around here I see lots of waterfarms around here now

Dr.Amber Trichome · Feb 9, 2012

its an honor to have the great scottyballs check out me journal.i feel so lucky.thank you so much dude, !
I have had 2 amazing visits this last week. One from you and one from the great Subcool all in a weeks time period.
Now all i can hope for is Cheech and Chong to show up , wouldnt that be neat.
and maybe Cypres Hill too.
LMao..

Dr.Amber Trichome · Feb 10, 2012

Hello all you stoned out pimps and hookers. :lol:

its another depressing PNW dark grey day and im feeling fine. really good. Im leaving. lol :leaf:

As i was prowling around under my Deep blue scrog frame a magical thing happened.
This little perfectly sized bong hit bud fell from the heavens.
I dried it out prettty welll and bonged it up this morning.
Im really fuckin high.
Senstions in my head feel like my brain in being so very gently massaged with a warm towel around it.
I recieved an amazing body buzz when i got not cold chills but nice blazing warm chills.. all through my body that lasted a good 15 seconds.
my eyelids are heavy and warm almost hot.
im still quite alert and all my muscles are very relaxed. Of course i didnt get that wonderful flavor yet but damn this is some fine fine smoke. and im so very happy to be harvesting this girl very soon .
have a fun filled weekend.
Peace :leaf:

got a superfreak video of the girls up next.. mwah
DAT

Dr.Amber Trichome · Feb 10, 2012

a little video for your viewing pleasure of my deepblue waterfarm and my mini moveable purple wrecks. ENJOY! :-P

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:lea f:

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[video=youtube_share;ZzZTOtX6GFg]http://youtu.be/ZzZTOtX6GFg[/video]

I am presently flushing my PW. i was able to get thier ppms down to 1500 in one day. I took them out of their drowing buckets because the rock wool blocks were collasing the plant. I will flush one more time tonite and then lights out 48 hours of darkness and the chop on Sunday.
Deep Blue will continue on in all her glory till the bloody end if i can help it. I will be completely overhauling my grow area disassembling the one tent and moving the waterfarm tent into the corner, disassembling the ducting.

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