Watering the baby

papasamba

Member
Hi everyone,

Well there it is i got this seedling of MasterKush, dont wanna ruin it obviously... I dont know how to water it properly... im going safe for now but tell me your opinion even if you're not a pro PLZ. I got this 1 gallon pot for my plant i dont plan on transplanting ( max height of the plant after flower should be 3 footer) so after letting it dry for a couple day in order to activate root growth. Should i water until it drips or should i water small shot per small shot , i afraid to drown my plant ( will it drown if the pot is pierced at the bottom) and For nutes Can i start right away?

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Ledhed

Well-Known Member
Damn, you've never watered a plant before? It's just a plant, and a weed at that. It can handle overwatering or underwatering. Your best bet is wait till the soil is dry about 2-4 inches from the surface Stick your finger in there, if it's wet, don't water, if it's dry, add some water. It isn't rocket science.
 

papasamba

Member
I know but the are a few detail... like if i dont water enough there might be left over from the nutes causing salt and weird pH, and u say i cant drown a plant but i read its the most common error, i just want to make sure. U think ull get rep for that.. theres no stupid question, and my plant is a seedling i guess i should put like 4 tbls of nute right in the pot and say to myself oh its not rocket science .. im getting piss i need to roll one
 

blaze1camp

Well-Known Member
you where asking if you water a lil or a lot make sure when you water water begins to come out of the bottom you want some run off..Let sit a few minutes water again till you get a lil run off...then let dry for a couple days 2-4 inches down from the top...hope that helps

no nutes at all for the fist 3 weeks at least also depends on type of grow media
 

papasamba

Member
+rep Blaze1camp i love your attitude, ill chek out your cfl grow for sure, im doing the same. Another small question, Cactus nutes from Schultz ( can i use that)! thx and again is a 1 gallon per plant good enough or should i transplant and when ( im planning on letting veg till its 12'' high then trigger the BLOOmin! THZX
 

growman3666

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+rep Blaze1camp i love your attitude, ill chek out your cfl grow for sure, im doing the same. Another small question, Cactus nutes from Schultz ( can i use that)! thx and again is a 1 gallon per plant good enough or should i transplant and when ( im planning on letting veg till its 12'' high then trigger the BLOOmin! THZX

soundsgood, you are probably gonna need a bigger pot eventually,
what are the npk ratings of your nutes?
 

papasamba

Member
Bah its 10-15-10 and i think its lacking N right... but i also have a MG all purpose but i find it hard to dilute, the recipe is like a teaspoon in 4 gallon so i was like wtf is that i only need a gallon and i cant really separate a teaspoon in more than 4 if i need 1/4 strength nway.. i think ill go with fish nutes for the whole thing and add mollase to that mix the whole thing
 

dura72

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need to know what medium ur using for grow buddy? different mediums have different water retention levels. some soils have nutes already in them ( mine does, its miracle grow, lotta people dont like it but it works for me). i never used any nutes for around 4/5 weeks. as for water just water a little and often at first imo. after a week or two ur plants got ennuff root structure to go searching the pot for water. then flood the plant, till u get a little run of f(maybye 10%), i give my plants two pints at a time ,give them five minutes then another pint and so on till u get the run off. run offs the best way to test ph imo. no one can give u exact amount or time to give nutes but ut palnt WILL tell u. just check it often and any leaf colour change means it wants its dinner. always err on the side of caution, remember a small yeild due to under nutrition is better than a load of burnt and dead plants. ohg yeah, pot size will reflect in plant size and yeild, if u veg till 12" ur better with 3 gall pots( i do).
 

papasamba

Member
Well DURA that was very helpful and thank you for that, im sorry i omit to mention i was using an regular organic nute free soil.. from my instinct i started like you said just a little water often enough... and ill go on like you said.. ok so if i need to transplant... i transplant the whole thing?? i mean its a fckn heavy transplant ,, its not jiffyss hehe .. u kno wwhat its my first grow and ill wait for the next one to upgrade my cabinet or any other material but thank you again!
 

papasamba

Member
10-15-10.. n the MG i was talkin about is stronger in Nitrogen but i dont remember i dont have it right now.. im at work .. im supervising a work site that has presently no work in progress ill be chekin guys moving some concrete fences wtf am i doing here.. i wanna see my plant!
 

seasmoke

Active Member
You got yourself some good advice there Pap. If you do up-pot be sure to do it well in advance of budding... the plant won't grow roots ocne it goes into bud.
 

dura72

Well-Known Member
ur gaunna need to transplant the whole thing coz ur roots are gaunna be all over the pot. it is possible to knock off some soil but the roots are little skinny threads and u will almost certainly damage some. if u damage too many u could kill the plant, u'll almost certainly shock it anyway. every transplant does and the more shock the longer the recovery period. ur plant may stop growing for a week. if uve go some one u can trust( dont trust anyone!!!)knock the sides of the pot , put both of ur hands on the top while ur buddy lifts it and turn it upside down and get them to pull the pot off, maybe turn the pot a bit too loosen the edges. and sit it in the new pot. best of luck buddy.
 

seasmoke

Active Member
It's ok to score the roots a bit during re-potting. It will act like fimming only underground, yea it initially slows groth, but when it takes off it will be stronger and more vibrint. Just score vertically 1/4 inch into the roots four even places around the plant. You'll stop spinout and the roots will use all the soil in the pot. Uncle Ben has a post about it, also google griffins spinout for a better explanation.
 

papasamba

Member
So i dig 4 holes around the plant? i dont get it even if i research it all i found was a product that able growers to grow in way smaller pot... thats what i got from it. But I was wondering, i pur just about a litre of water in the pot and it dripped right away like if there was a passage dug by previous watering .. is it normal? i gotta admit i pur it kinda fast nways.. my little girls doing fine, and i gotta say its hard not to touch it
 

seasmoke

Active Member
So i dig 4 holes around the plant? i dont get it even if i research it all i found was a product that able growers to grow in way smaller pot... thats what i got from it. But I was wondering, i pur just about a litre of water in the pot and it dripped right away like if there was a passage dug by previous watering .. is it normal? i gotta admit i pur it kinda fast nways.. my little girls doing fine, and i gotta say its hard not to touch it

Yea man, its hard not to get touchy feelly with them, and they smell sooooo gooood:eyesmoke:

Anyways,back to topic. Your not going to dig holes around the plant.
First. why do it?

The taproot will grow down untill it hits the bottom of the pot and then it will "spin along the sides of the pot"and turn into feeder roots. When this happens it leaves unused soil in between the root and the ball itself. It is best to get the roots to use this soil. Do not cut thye taproot, only the feeder roots along the edge of the surface.

So to do this naturally, when its ready to be transpanted,you take the plant and holding it upside down,gently take the plant out of the pot. There should be roots along the sides and on bottom. looking at the bottom, cut into the soil, roots and all, with a razor knife, 1/4 in,10 cm, or so vertically(top to bottom) at the 12,3,6 and 9 o'clock positions. Then plant it into your new pot and soil.

What this does is separate the spinning roots and enable them to grow out, much like fimming does) and gives them better root structure and lets them get to that unused soil. Better roots, better foliage, better foliage better buds...

About the run-off. It sounds like to me, that the soil had pulled away from the pot and let water escape. Water your plants slowly. 1/3 to a time.

If the water paqsses through the soil quickly its dry, if the water lays on the surface for awiloe its to wet.
 
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