Way too many contradictions in this hobby.

This thread is great.

First day week 7 after 12/12 flip. The bottom fan leaves are roasting and you can see purple in the remaining fan leaves, those are doomed to drop soon but so far the buds are hanging in there, (although much smaller than I had hoped for).... I'm liking the manifold technique !

Plan to go another 2-3 weeks, fingers crossed that my flowers stay healthy. I still dont know why the leaf tips are pointing down--shes trying to tell me something.

Took this pic tonight. She seems to like the bloom nutrients, we'll see how it goes.

lusidghost said:

This thread is great.

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Sarcasm? I really put my head on the chopping block posting this, but I'm an older guy that doesnt really care anymore. Thats the nice thing about getting older, you really dont care what people think. But I do try to play nicely though----(hint hint to the cackling hyena crew on this forum)

singlecoiled said:

Sarcasm? I really put my head on the chopping block posting this, but I'm an older guy that doesnt really care anymore. Thats the nice thing about getting older, you really dont care what people think. But I do try to play nicely though----(hint hint to the cackling hyena crew on this forum)

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Every debatable topic has been touched, along with music theory and the Kurt Cobain effect. No politics so far. No mods coming in here threatening to bust up the joint. I was called a "poison cunt" by a Scottish man who was having a meltdown over flushing. This is as good as it gets.

The best teacher is experience, time, and dedication. It’s cool to listen to others, and take from it what you will. Ultimately it’s like wiping your ass, your parents taught you the basics, it’s up to you to take what they taught you, and apply it to your own understanding, and what works for you. Believe me they dreamed that someday you’d be able to master the art of wiping your ass, so they don’t have to buy diapers anymore. Only you can wipe your ass the right way. It’s trial and error! Hopefully my word choosing was entertaining as well as insightful! Good luck

lusidghost said:

Every debatable topic has been touched, along with music theory and the Kurt Cobain effect. No politics so far. No mods coming in here threatening to bust up the joint. I was called a "poison cunt" by a Scottish man who was having a meltdown over flushing. This is as good as it gets.

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Nice ! good stuff man, love it.

Blackhammer56 said:

The best teacher is experience, time, and dedication. It’s cool to listen to others, and take from it what you will. Ultimately it’s like wiping your ass, your parents taught you the basics, it’s up to you to take what they taught you, and apply it to your own understanding, and what works for you. Believe me they dreamed that someday you’d be able to master the art of wiping your ass, so they don’t have to buy diapers anymore. Only you can wipe your ass the right way. It’s trial and error! Hopefully my word choosing was entertaining as well as insightful! Good luck

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And who knows how many are doing it wrong, .

Front to back or back to front?

Blackhammer56 said:

The best teacher is experience, time, and dedication. It’s cool to listen to others, and take from it what you will. Ultimately it’s like wiping your ass, your parents taught you the basics, it’s up to you to take what they taught you, and apply it to your own understanding, and what works for you. Believe me they dreamed that someday you’d be able to master the art of wiping your ass, so they don’t have to buy diapers anymore. Only you can wipe your ass the right way. It’s trial and error! Hopefully my word choosing was entertaining as well as insightful! Good luck

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Good stuff, I'm already getting to the point where I just listen and take notes but question everything people say. Someone else made a good point that there are many different directions and techniques to use while growing, so what is right and wrong is in definite gray area.

I would like us to all come together on terminology though, thats some really silly stuff. Is a flush feeding plain water before harvest, or is flooding your soil with many gallons of water to remove salts? When you say flower, do you mean 12/12 or after first sign of flower, etc.. We should all have a vote and stick with the decision so newbies like me dont get all confused and post sill threads like this.

singlecoiled said:

First day week 7 after 12/12 flip. The bottom fan leaves are roasting and you can see purple in the remaining fan leaves, those are doomed to drop soon but so far the buds are hanging in there, (although much smaller than I had hoped for).... I'm liking the manifold technique !

Plan to go another 2-3 weeks, fingers crossed that my flowers stay healthy. I still dont know why the leaf tips are pointing down--shes trying to tell me something.

Took this pic tonight. She seems to like the bloom nutrients, we'll see how it goes.

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I’m going to guess that the ph is off in your growing medium

Here goes my thread to poop humour.... Spoeaking of poop, I have a pet rabbit that uses a little box and is house trained like a cat. (Rabbits are awesome pets).. I'm thinking about using it in my next grow, its gotta be loaded with good nutrients and "stuff" the plants like?

Blackhammer56 said:

I’m going to guess that the ph is off in your growing medium

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Yes It may be ! But to save my life, I dont know how to check soil PH (Posted in my original thread). Its almost impossible to get to the soil now (let alone the soil in the root zone) so I dont really know. I've researched EC and PH meters, but thats a headache on its own.

The best I've been able to do is measure water in and compare against runoff PH. At the moment, my PH is a little high (I think) but that may be my mistake. My previous grows got very acidic and I've been cutting down on the PH down and feeding a little higher than I normally would. If I was to guess I would say my PH is around 7.... I watered tonight and PH'd to 6.0.

singlecoiled said:

The correct answer? A bidet ! nothing beats it. Although nothing beats a good shower or simply sticking your ass in the sink. Toilet paper is for newbs.

Good stuff, I'm already getting to the point where I just listen and take notes but question everything people say. Someone else made a good point that there are many different directions and techniques to use while growing, so what is right and wrong is in definite gray area.

I would like us to all come together on terminology though, thats some really silly stuff. Is a flush feeding plain water before harvest, or is flooding your soil with many gallons of water to remove salts? When you say flower, do you mean 12/12 or after first sign of flower, etc.. We should all have a vote and stick with the decision so newbies like me dont get all confused and post sill threads like this.

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You have to weed out the different things that could go wrong. I would start at checking runoff PH, and ppm in the soil by doing a slurry test. I just had my plants doing the same 24hrs later it was corrected by giving straight Ph’d water, and I did a foliar feed for good measure. I want to go into flower completely healthy. By the way your plant looks great.

xtsho said:

Eggplant are harder to grow.

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You aren’t wrong! Especially where I live they’re a bitch

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You have to weed out the different things that could go wrong. I would start at checking runoff PH, and ppm in the soil by doing a slurry test. I just had my plants doing the same 24hrs later it was corrected by giving straight Ph’d water, and I did a foliar feed for good measure. I want to go into flower completely healthy. By the way your plant looks great.

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Thanks, appreciate the post. I've done a few slurry tests with RO water and the results came in neutral, around 6.8-7.0. But that was when I could get to the soil. I also did the baking soda and vineger test to see if it bubbled and there wasnt much of a reaction (showing neutral soil). In my past grows with this soil, the PH dropped drastically around this time and PH'd below 5.0. So, this grow is a little bit of an experiment using less PH up and down and relying on the soil to buffer things.

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You noticed the "you have four years more to go to harvest" crowd too? I've been watching them and they really love to torture folks and I'm not sure their advice is right. They just seem to love to say it has a lot longer to go for some odd reason. (Note sometimes their right) but most of the time I just think they like busting someones bubble that is excited to harvest.\

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I have never seen anyone advise to harvest too late. It is nothing but a helpful service to encourage someone to wait for ripeness when 99% of people harvest early and have disappointing results, leading them to look for shortcuts via additives and other BS.

Cooking the soil seems extreme. I’ve heard about it and just did some reading. Seems a pretty rare approach, and one likely to kill much of the good stuff that you want on there. I’d say chances are high that the bugs came in another way other than the bagged soil. That’s where I’d start trying to solve the problem. Is your cupboard exposed to the outside in any way? Also read that heating soil with perlite can release harmful chemicals. Some ff does add perlite. No idea if this is true or not. Found it on the internet…

I just used a bag of ff that had a small hole in the bag. Noticed when I got home. This worried me, so I took a couple scoops and put it in a sealed jar with some water and waited 24 hours. No bugs. I read somewhere that this is also an effective way to test for unwanted critters in store bought soil. Either way, as I’m sure you know, the soil is spent and needs additional amendments or nutes eventually, perhaps even faster if you’ve over cooked your soil. Curious how many people engage in this practice. I did have to shut down an attempt at growing about a decade ago. The clones arrived already infested, and the young plants just couldn’t take the gnats and I couldn’t get rid of them.Gave up for a decade or so. Laws have changed and my kids are older now, so I feel better about growing anyway.

But if you have ants, they’re coming in from somewhere. I’d look into the hygiene of the growing space and surrounding areas. I know people who change clothes entirely before entering their grow spaces to make sure they don’t bring along unwanted visitors. Less of a problem rn in the NE, where I grow. My outdoor grow had multiple bug issues last summer.

Knocking on wood on this, cause my first indoor grow did not have this problem (ff soil straight from the bag).

16 big fat colas?

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Yes It may be ! But to save my life, I dont know how to check soil PH (Posted in my original thread). Its almost impossible to get to the soil now (let alone the soil in the root zone) so I dont really know. I've researched EC and PH meters, but thats a headache on its own.

The best I've been able to do is measure water in and compare against runoff PH. At the moment, my PH is a little high (I think) but that may be my mistake. My previous grows got very acidic and I've been cutting down on the PH down and feeding a little higher than I normally would. If I was to guess I would say my PH is around 7.... I watered tonight and PH'd to 6.0.

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Blue labs for the win! I like Apera ph meter, blue labs makes a soil ph meter, I love blue labs truncheon Ec aka ppm meter! I like Athena once I mix core, then grow, and add cal/mag it gives me a perfect ph. Athena alone runs acidic but once I add Cali magic the solution says wowla! I’m not sure if I spelled that correctly. Lol

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You noticed the "you have four years more to go to harvest" crowd too? I've been watching them and they really love to torture folks and I'm not sure their advice is right. They just seem to love to say it has a lot longer to go for some odd reason. (Note sometimes their right) but most of the time I just think they like busting someones bubble that is excited to harvest. At least thats how I see it. I'm not sure why so many get pleasure out of others failures, its like they want you to do bad so their posse can come out like a pack of cackling Hyenas. They must have miserable lives and this is all they have.

As far as trichomes, this should have gone on my list. There are many very different opinions on when to harvest. I myself watch the plant, seems to me they kinda tell you when they are done.

1. From my newbie standpoint, when water consumption drops (drastically) thats a sign
2. Yellowing of leaves. When it gets real yellow, that can be a sign (Senescence not a deficiency)
3. Pistols, watch for the percentage of brown to white---another clue that can get you in the ballpark. (when most pistol are brown and curling in)
4. Trichomes--- I watch for everything to cloud up with a few amber showing. This is very strain dependant though. If tricomes are clear, it needs a bit longer. My Northern Lights never seems to amber up on the buds, but the sugar leaves are covered in amber. (I go with cloudy and a few amber to harvest NL)
5. Swelling of the calyx is another thing I watch for.
6. This is my own, so it could be very wrong, but it seems to me the buds kinda shrink a llittle but towards the very end. (or tighten up)

Anyway, I could be way off but a loupe and tricomes is my main way to check before harvest......correct me if I'm way off !

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I think you are way off. There is a good write up on how to tell when the plant is ripe.

Some folks here have a real obsession with letting plants go far too long.

Fully agree the certain crowd takes joy in bursting people's bubbles and then attacking. Sad state of affairs.