Weed that dont get you high?

menace1332

menace1332

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Anyone ever grow some bud that didnt do shit? Is it a soil problem.. Trics were all cloudy Upon Harvest 8weeks or more into flowering... could it have been premature? The bud dont really have a smell to it either but it looked tasty as fk growing.. any ideas? or could it just be some bunk seed genetics
 
menace1332

menace1332

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no insight anyone? not cured long enough or dried to quick be a cause of it? i just dont see it possible for it to have no effect :(
 
doc111

doc111

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Potency is mainly in the plant's genetics. Curing doesn't really affect potency. Harvesting prematurely will hinder potency a bit but it should still get you high.
 
Brick Top

Brick Top

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doc111 said:
Potency is mainly in the plant's genetics. Curing doesn't really affect potency. Harvesting prematurely will hinder potency a bit but it should still get you high.
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Potency is mainly genetic but saying curing does not increase the potency of pot is absurd. A good bit of the THC in freshly harvested herb is in a non-psychoactive form and through proper drying and proper curing the non-psychoactive THC will become psychoactive and that means an increase in potency over freshly harvested/only dried pot.
 
menace1332

menace1332

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Brick Top said:
Potency is mainly genetic but saying curing does not increase the potency of pot is absurd. A good bit of the THC in freshly harvested herb is in a non-psychoactive form and through proper drying and proper curing the non-psychoactive THC will become psychoactive and that means an increase in potency over freshly harvested/only dried pot.
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Hmmm learn something new everyday hehe thx for the insight
 
doc111

doc111

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Agreed it helps a little but I don't see a whole lot of difference in the actual potency of cured vs. uncured bud. That's just my opinion. To me curing mainly affects taste. Do some of the cannabinoids become psychoactive? Problem is we don't have reliable scientific data to verify this. Remember, there are psychoactive compounds being destroyed by the curing process and just simply through normal degredation. Any gain in "potency" by curing is probably offset by the degredation of cannabinoids. Again, I haven't seen many scientific studies to back any of this up so it's all speculation.
 
doc111

doc111

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Brick Top said:
Potency is mainly genetic but saying curing does not increase the potency of pot is absurd. A good bit of the THC in freshly harvested herb is in a non-psychoactive form and through proper drying and proper curing the non-psychoactive THC will become psychoactive and that means an increase in potency over freshly harvested/only dried pot.
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This is where you gain the majority of potency IMO. It's the drying process which causes cannabinoids to become psychoactive. Most commercial pot isn't cured. It still gets you high though. I'm not saying that curing has no affect on potency but I believe it's negligible. I've done a side by side and saw very little difference in the high. Every grower has his or her own special technique for drying and curing. I'm sure the psychological aspect plays into it. It's all good though Brick. We can agree to disagree.
 
menace1332

menace1332

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hmmm if the weed isnt dryed properly would that lead to no high? Plucked a nuggy off that was all cloudy trics, the bud dont really have a smell other then a greeny, I let it dry out for a 3days.. smoked it in a blunt and really only got the tobaco buzz really no high
 
landracer

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doc111 said:
This is where you gain the majority of potency IMO. It's the drying process which causes cannabinoids to become psychoactive. Most commercial pot isn't cured. It still gets you high though. I'm not saying that curing has no affect on potency but I believe it's negligible. I've done a side by side and saw very little difference in the high. Every grower has his or her own special technique for drying and curing. I'm sure the psychological aspect plays into it. It's all good though Brick. We can agree to disagree.
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brick top is dead on right. thc when formed has a water molecule attached to it that makes it much less potent. when the majority of thc(buds) is dried porperly it releases the water molecule and becomes potent. how fast and in wich way the molecule is expelled determines to a great extent wich cannabiniods get ativated and how active they become. an extremely fast drying makes for potent but unpleasent smoking. a slow cure makes for a more complex mix of cannabiniods and a smother smoking experience. thats the science behind it. everything i have is easy to check in scientific literature.
 
landracer

landracer

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doc111 said:
Agreed it helps a little but I don't see a whole lot of difference in the actual potency of cured vs. uncured bud. That's just my opinion. To me curing mainly affects taste. Do some of the cannabinoids become psychoactive? Problem is we don't have reliable scientific data to verify this. Remember, there are psychoactive compounds being destroyed by the curing process and just simply through normal degredation. Any gain in "potency" by curing is probably offset by the degredation of cannabinoids. Again, I haven't seen many scientific studies to back any of this up so it's all speculation.
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there is plenty of info on the subject but you have to know where to look. most stoneys dont read technical chemistry journals
 
landracer

landracer

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menace1332 said:
no insight anyone? not cured long enough or dried to quick be a cause of it? i just dont see it possible for it to have no effect :(
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it is possible for it to produce resin in hefty amounts but that resin would be low in cannabinoids. so.. a lot of weak resin. lebanese hash was sometimes like that. you had to take a few big tokes to get you high at all(although rare).
 
golddog

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menace1332 said:
hmmm if the weed isnt dryed properly would that lead to no high? Plucked a nuggy off that was all cloudy trics, the bud dont really have a smell other then a greeny, I let it dry out for a 3days.. smoked it in a blunt and really only got the tobaco buzz really no high
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Sorry to hear that. :cry:

Have you been smoking really Dank weed? Maybe your tolerance is up.

BTW - All of my bud is better after curing a month.
 
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The All Day Toker

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there's tons of scientific data that explains non-psychoactive thc becoming psychoactive during the cure process...and I think you've got it a little mixed up...what's mostly "breaking down" is chloraphyll (forgive spelling) which tastes like kah kah lol....and starches in the plant that are turning to sugars which taste like bomb nugget...see?

I've seen and collected tons of data as me and associates have worked close with mmj doctors and lawyers to submit such studies. Real talk...next time you should grab a 60x-100x scope and peep those trichomes before choppin man...remember that most of the timeframes by seed companies are there to get you to buy the dang seeds!...just let her do her thing and she'll tell ya when she's ready ;)
 
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slomoking13

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both drying and curing are very important. When you dry the buds, there is still moisture inside because the outside dries quicker and the plants appear dry to the touch. When you cure the plants in jars, the moisture is wicked from the inside of the buds until there consistent moisture between the outside and inside of the bud. You burp your jars to release the excess moisture until the buds are exactly where you want them... This is the point where a lot of the original smell from when it was flowering comes back and the taste is improved greatly over just drying the buds and not curing. The stuff looks a little premature too. I remember you started a different thread wondering how long your plants had left... didn't you mention something about cutting all of your fan leaves off? I can't remember exactly, but if that's the case.. you most likely slowed the maturation of your plants as they were ripening in the last few weeks. That really doesn't help the potency much either because it pretty much halts resin production and most new growth of buds.
 
menace1332

menace1332

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slomoking13 said:
both drying and curing are very important. When you dry the buds, there is still moisture inside because the outside dries quicker and the plants appear dry to the touch. When you cure the plants in jars, the moisture is wicked from the inside of the buds until there consistent moisture between the outside and inside of the bud. You burp your jars to release the excess moisture until the buds are exactly where you want them... This is the point where a lot of the original smell from when it was flowering comes back and the taste is improved greatly over just drying the buds and not curing. The stuff looks a little premature too. I remember you started a different thread wondering how long your plants had left... didn't you mention something about cutting all of your fan leaves off? I can't remember exactly, but if that's the case.. you most likely slowed the maturation of your plants as they were ripening in the last few weeks. That really doesn't help the potency much either because it pretty much halts resin production and most new growth of buds.
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ya i did have another thread hehe, I actually only cut a few fan leaves off there really wasnt that many on there other then the ones that have gone into the buds hehe, Is that a plant problem or just the strain?
 
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