Week 2 of veg, some plants not bouncing back from the transplant

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Dylbecks

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Just repotted these babies from coffee cup clones into 5 gallon pots. The picture in the cups is 1 day after receiving them, and they looked a little shaky. I figured they would bounce back after transplant with more drainage and more room for root development. The other pictures are now 4 days after repotting and a few of them seem to be getting worse, the garlic cookies and gelato in particular. Just wondering what the cause of this may be. The ppm of my feed was around 1100-1200, pH consistently at 5.8-6.2, using 1 2k watt LED and a 1k watt black/red light LED. Last picture is the feeding chart. The top columns are what I have been using for veg.
This looks like some sort of deficiency but don't know what it would/could be

This is only my second grow, and my first time growing plants from week 1 of veg, so I'm open to any criticisms or suggestions!
 

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BaginsZA

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They are looking rough my dude. 1100ppm seems high for this stage. Honestly they look like they need everything to take a step back... Lights, neuts and watering, it all just looks like too much. Would suggest straight water once they dry up properly, lean feed if any feed at all, and some good distance from he light so that they have a chance to recover
 
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They're already about 4 feet from the light, so I'll probably just dim them. For sure knew something was going horribly wrong here but wasn't sure if it was a deficiency, or if it was a surplus of feed, light, etc. Hopefully they all make it. I appreciate your input!
 
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Dylbecks said:
They're already about 4 feet from the light, so I'll probably just dim them. For sure knew something was going horribly wrong here but wasn't sure if it was a deficiency, or if it was a surplus of feed, light, etc. Hopefully they all make it. I appreciate your input!
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Let's try to make sense of whats happening here.. The small pots, and big pots show the same symptoms, so I am going to say heavy neuts (possibly lockout) is the main concern. Let them dry up properly, the flush em with straight clean water and reintroduce small dose feeds. Hold back on watering as everything looks saturated. What's your grow room like? Good airflow, Temps and RH? We can save these ladies, with some more info and the right reactions..!
 
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About 65-75% humidity & 72-80°F 4x4 foot vivosun reflective tent, got 2 monkey fans in there with a carbon filter/fan output.
 
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BaginsZA

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Your RH is higher than I would like. Add to this, a high dose feeding regime, it looks like the leaves are trying their best to find a balance. What medium are you using? How often do you water? To summarize my thoughts. Too much water, too much feed, high RH, the lights are probably ok for where they are, but maybe back off a bit until you can find the right balance between light, air, neuts and RH. Give them a Chance to recover, nothing added now will help... It's all about scaling back
 
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Been feeding about 20 fluid oz of the 1100ppm water every other day. Most recent water was yesterday. I have a really good 50 pint/day Danby dehumidifier I usually use for flowering to prevent mold, would that be the best move? And what is the ideal RH?
 
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BaginsZA

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Thanks for the info.. One last point, what medium did you plant in? Looks like a 50/50 mix? What feed are you giving? Do me a favor and check your run off. PH and ppm.​
 
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DaFreak

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You have to treat stressed plants like babies. Horrible looking plants to begin with. You would waste so much time just getting them healthy that I would never run plants like that. I can give barely rooted healthy clones 1000ppm and they will take it so it's not all about age of the plants but about condition.
 
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So Ill let the soil dry up nicely for 2 more days, and then flood it with filtered pH'd water and see how it goes, sound like a good plan of action?
 
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BaginsZA

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Ideal RH is lower than with
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Do they have the potential to be saved?
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Hells yeah they do.. But there is a small window to make it worth you while. Stop watering, stop feeding, improve your env
furnz said:
Those size plants should only be getting around 350-400 ppm. IMO
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Fully agree.. Pull back on feedi
furnz said:
Those size plants should only be getting around 350-400 ppm. IMO
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Hell yeah they can be saved, but there is a small window to make it worth your while.. Cut back on feeding and watering and I believe things will improve. Happy growing!
 
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BaginsZA

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Dylbecks said:
So Ill let the soil dry up nicely for 2 more days, and then flood it with filtered pH'd water and see how it goes, sound like a good plan of action?
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Don't put a time frame on it, see what happens in 2 days then decide. I have seedlings that hate being watered after 5 days... It's not an exact.. Take it day by day... Supply on demand, not on a guess
 
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Dontjudgeme

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Dylbecks said:
Just repotted these babies from coffee cup clones into 5 gallon pots. The picture in the cups is 1 day after receiving them, and they looked a little shaky. I figured they would bounce back after transplant with more drainage and more room for root development. The other pictures are now 4 days after repotting and a few of them seem to be getting worse, the garlic cookies and gelato in particular. Just wondering what the cause of this may be. The ppm of my feed was around 1100-1200, pH consistently at 5.8-6.2, using 1 2k watt LED and a 1k watt black/red light LED. Last picture is the feeding chart. The top columns are what I have been using for veg.
This looks like some sort of deficiency but don't know what it would/could be

This is only my second grow, and my first time growing plants from week 1 of veg, so I'm open to any criticisms or suggestions!
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They didn’t look Healthy to begin with. That’s what I call driving uphill on an icy road with slick tires. Chances of making it are slim, but not impossible. Requires the right driver, you, being the grower. Recognizing the problem is the first step, fixing it isn’t always as easy as it sounds. Time and patience will be your best friend. Sometimes not doing anything is the trick. You’d be surprised what just a simple watering will do. Weed loves nothing more than to grow, to kill it would almost take you doing it on purpose, it’s an extremely resilient plant. Transplanting before they regained what was lost before you got them was the mistake unfortunately, they weren’t healthy enough to withstand the move. Make sure your grow environment, ( temp, Rh, lights ) is solid, then do nothing more than water like mentioned above. They will tell you when they need more than that. Good luck.
 
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BaginsZA

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Dontjudgeme said:
They didn’t look Healthy to begin with. That’s what I call driving uphill on an icy road with slick tires. Chances of making it are slim, but not impossible. Requires the right driver, you, being the grower. Recognizing the problem is the first step, fixing it isn’t always as easy as it sounds. Time and patience will be your best friend. Sometimes not doing anything is the trick. You’d be surprised what just a simple watering will do. Weed loves nothing more than to grow, to kill it would almost take you doing it on purpose, it’s an extremely resilient plant. Transplanting before they regained what was lost before you got them was the mistake unfortunately, they weren’t healthy enough to withstand the move. Make sure your grow environment, ( temp, Rh, lights ) is solid, then do nothing more than water like mentioned above. They will tell you when they need more than that. Good luck.
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Well said! Listen to this..
 
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