Weird burn but run off and ph is fine. Week 6 Autoflower

SupremeBudDrongo said:

Yeah not sure what else to do at this point. The plant has gotten so big that it doesn't fit in my 2x2 tent anymore. a 1/4 of the canopy isnt getting enough light because its gotten so huge that to get the light to hit these bud sites id have to remove the carbon filter. Guess ill keep feeding 700 and order a 3x3. If this keeps up within another 3-4 days bud sites will hit the roof. THIS IS AFTER TOPPING THE PLANT at the 3rd node btw which is insane..

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Just get a 4x4 as you're sure to overgrow a 3x3 in no time. Keep the 2x2 for a little veg tent that could be taken care of with a 2ft - 4tube T5 light fixture then you can just buy a new 2x2 sized light and use what you have now beside it to cover a 4x4. Unless you just can't fit a 4x4 into the space you have.

I bought a used 2x4x5'h tent and should have held out for a 4x4 but I'm expecting to get the old 4x8 back fairly soon and will use that for a lab setup in the shop so I can keep everything in one place and keep it clean. Dusty farm area around here and the wife keeps sickly chickens in cages that raise a lot of dust too. They will be gone once it warms up and not coming back. Put my foot down over this one.

I bet the price difference is not very much if at all.

Just a thought.

OldMedUser said:

Just get a 4x4 as you're sure to overgrow a 3x3 in no time. Keep the 2x2 for a little veg tent that could be taken care of with a 2ft - 4tube T5 light fixture then you can just buy a new 2x2 sized light and use what you have now beside it to cover a 4x4. Unless you just can't fit a 4x4 into the space you have.

I bought a used 2x4x5'h tent and should have held out for a 4x4 but I'm expecting to get the old 4x8 back fairly soon and will use that for a lab setup in the shop so I can keep everything in one place and keep it clean. Dusty farm area around here and the wife keeps sickly chickens in cages that raise a lot of dust too. They will be gone once it warms up and not coming back. Put my foot down over this one.

I bet the price difference is not very much if at all.

Just a thought.

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man I WISH I had the space for a 4x4 but unfortunately 3x3 is about the max I can fit in to my grow area. Plus id have to get new lights too along with a much bigger inline fan to push all that extra cfm out. You Canadians are lucky..

SupremeBudDrongo said:

man I WISH I had the space for a 4x4 but unfortunately 3x3 is about the max I can fit in to my grow area. Plus id have to get new lights too along with a much bigger inline fan to push all that extra cfm out. You Canadians are lucky..

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I don't think it's the country where I live but that I have an acreage far from any neighbours and space to setup what I want. My shop is 17'x34'x10'h and a buddy not long after I moved in 20 years ago wanted to turn the shop into a big grow room for making loads of cash but that's not what I was into. I have a nice space in the basement out of sight where I can grow more than enough to supply myself and my small group of friends. Almost none of them smoke bud anymore so I save a lot of time not having to trim so much and just turn it all into oils for edibles.

The location was more important before Canada went legal in 2018. Never used a carbon filter tho when there was no wind the whole yard just wreaked of pot when flowering. My exhaust is blown under the shop tehn just spreads across the ground I guess with static wind conditions mainly in the winter when it's -20C or colder. Anybody driving in and getting out of their car couldn't help but smell it and the wife was selling eggs so that happened on occasion but never got busted. Scared off the Jehovahs too.

Got proper gummie molds for CBD and THC ones plus all the ingredients to make gummies once I get my space set up to render my stockpile of pot into oils. Got lots of hi-CBD stuff and regular pot so will send samples of both to a lab once they're ready then have accurate numbers for dosing meds.

After all these years of growing I'd like someone else to do the growing and cropping part and I'll take care of the rest!

OldMedUser said:

I don't think it's the country where I live but that I have an acreage far from any neighbours and space to setup what I want. My shop is 17'x34'x10'h and a buddy not long after I moved in 20 years ago wanted to turn the shop into a big grow room for making loads of cash but that's not what I was into. I have a nice space in the basement out of sight where I can grow more than enough to supply myself and my small group of friends. Almost none of them smoke bud anymore so I save a lot of time not having to trim so much and just turn it all into oils for edibles.

The location was more important before Canada went legal in 2018. Never used a carbon filter tho when there was no wind the whole yard just wreaked of pot when flowering. My exhaust is blown under the shop tehn just spreads across the ground I guess with static wind conditions mainly in the winter when it's -20C or colder. Anybody driving in and getting out of their car couldn't help but smell it and the wife was selling eggs so that happened on occasion but never got busted. Scared off the Jehovahs too.

Got proper gummie molds for CBD and THC ones plus all the ingredients to make gummies once I get my space set up to render my stockpile of pot into oils. Got lots of hi-CBD stuff and regular pot so will send samples of both to a lab once they're ready then have accurate numbers for dosing meds.

After all these years of growing I'd like someone else to do the growing and cropping part and I'll take care of the rest!

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Its actually mind lowing how Ganja is legal over there. Must be quite the relief to just be able to grow a plant minding your own business. We are still in the Stone Age unfortunately but it is what it is..

SupremeBudDrongo said:

Its actually mind lowing how Ganja is legal over there. Must be quite the relief to just be able to grow a plant minding your own business. We are still in the Stone Age unfortunately but it is what it is..

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It's a total shit show. Gov't taxes the hell out of it and everybody in the industry is suffering due to low markups to try to compete with the very active black market. The big growers are shutting things down to the bone and laying off hundreds of people. Stores closing left and right with two in the little town down the road staying open somehow. Hydro shops are also shutting down as so many big illegal growers have shut down so no more guys walking in with 100G and ordering a truckload of stuff to start a grow. Can't survive on guys like us buying a 1000 bux worth of gear then never coming back except for advice and maybe a bottle of nutes once in a blue moon.

I have been getting my medpot permit for the last 7 or 8 years and if I applied to grow could be legal for 40 plants indoors but I don't want to be on the gov't hit list in case that right is ever withdrawn so just grow what I want and hope the doctor's note will help in court if I ever get busted. Just have the legal 4 growing now so let 'em come!

They also made some laws a lot worse when they brought in Prohibition 2.0. You can now get up to 14 years in federal prison for supplying pot to a minor. Or making concentrates with 'organic' solvents which means anything flammable so that's where my biggest concern is now as that's how I make my oils. Either with ISO, naphtha or butane. Easier searching of your vehicle and specially trained cops to check you out if they suspect drug impairment of any kind who can order blood tests and or breathalyzer testing tho any cop can do that last part. I would fail the blood test for pot as even if I don't take any I do take a dose of RSO every night for joint pain so would be over the limit even if I stopped now and got tested weeks from now.

Hopefully the gov't will toss in the towel in a few years and just say fuggit and we can grow and sell pot like tomatoes. No way they will ever be able to control it like they are for much longer. They need to drop the 'sin' taxes which are much lower for alcohol and tobacco than pot tho for cigs it's pretty bad. A 50g pouch of tobacco with a couple packs of rolling papers now costs me $50. A 25 - pack of cigs at the gas station when we were in the city was $20.70 and most people smoke a pack a day or more. I lost my connection for bootleg native cigs that were $60 for a carton of 200. All natural too and not loaded with chemicals like gov't approved tobacco.

Be careful what you wish for.

300ppm base is too weak.
Are you using a fertilizer that even needs calmag?

furnz said:

300ppm base is too weak.
Are you using a fertilizer that even needs calmag?

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A little late to the party and didn't bother reading what was already decided I see.

furnz said:

300ppm base is too weak.
Are you using a fertilizer that even needs calmag?

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yeah upped to 700ppm and cut off calcium. Now the topsides are touching the light. There are some lower leaves still shrivelling up and dropping off. Ordered a 3x3 tent to transfer thing monster into. Buddha Seeds and their Autoflowers are LEGIT. Can confirm. Not too potent but yield wise they are good as any. My Last grow was a Buddha Magnum auto which was also a monster but this one is something else.. Even after topping at the 3rd node this thing is now touching the lights in a 2x2x5 tent.

Before transferring to 3x3. This monster Autoflower absolutely filled this 2x2. Two of the tops touched the light and has burnt tips and one bud site itself. Tomorrow the move to a 3x3 happens. Lower leaves still shrivelling which is worrying. I administered some h2o2 last night lets hope if its root rot that will take care of it. Really not sure what else to do at this point tbh..

SupremeBudDrongo said:

Before transferring to 3x3. This monster Autoflower absolutely filled this 2x2. Two of the tops touched the light and has burnt tips and one bud site itself. Tomorrow the move to a 3x3 happens. Lower leaves still shrivelling which is worrying. I administered some h2o2 last night lets hope if its root rot that will take care of it. Really not sure what else to do at this point tbh..

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Hope you bottom fed that peroxide in. It's the base of the pot where rot starts and as peroxide reacts with anything organic it could all be depleted before it even gets to the area of rot if poured in from the top.

I'd be stripping off lower leaves this late into flowering if they're buggered.

OldMedUser said:

Hope you bottom fed that peroxide in. It's the base of the pot where rot starts and as peroxide reacts with anything organic it could all be depleted before it even gets to the area of rot if poured in from the top.

I'd be stripping off lower leaves this late into flowering if they're buggered.

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No wtf thought if I just give a huge 3 gallon flush the h202 will eventually reach the bottom. Is my logic off? I can try to give it a h2o2 solution again if that's the case through bottom feeding.

SupremeBudDrongo said:

man I WISH I had the space for a 4x4 but unfortunately 3x3 is about the max I can fit in to my grow area. Plus id have to get new lights too along with a much bigger inline fan to push all that extra cfm out. You Canadians are lucky..

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Disagree. Legalization fucked everything up.
I'm med, so for me I could care less about legalization. All it's done is drive the prices of things up, and made somethings harder to source. So sick of people asking 'do you like sativas or indicas'. Grrrrrrrr

SupremeBudDrongo said:

No wtf thought if I just give a huge 3 gallon flush the h202 will eventually reach the bottom. Is my logic off? I can try to give it a h2o2 solution again if that's the case through bottom feeding.

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Peroxide is going to oxidize the first carbon containing material it touches so bottom feeding it gets it to the root of the problem by the shortest path when it is still very active. If there is lots of anaerobic material, such as dead and infected roots, it'll fry that first. Living material already has oxygen present so is not as easy for the peroxide to attach it's O+ radical to.

It's similar to how most chemotherapy works. Chemo attacks cells as they split and as cancer cells split more often than normal cells the logic is that it hits more cancer cells than healthy cells. The cells that grow hair split faster than average too so they get hit hard and why so many chemo treatments make the patients lose their hair. Billions of normal cells also get hit which causes the general sickness all over while undergoing chemo. They are basically almost killing you with those meds but hoping to kill the cancer before you die from it.

Those sick lower leaves could just be the way that strain begins it's dying off near the end so you may not have root rot at all. The rest of the plant seems OK and treating something that may not be there could make things worse.

OldMedUser said:

Peroxide is going to oxidize the first carbon containing material it touches so bottom feeding it gets it to the root of the problem by the shortest path when it is still very active. If there is lots of anaerobic material, such as dead and infected roots, it'll fry that first. Living material already has oxygen present so is not as easy for the peroxide to attach it's O+ radical to.

It's similar to how most chemotherapy works. Chemo attacks cells as they split and as cancer cells split more often than normal cells the logic is that it hits more cancer cells than healthy cells. The cells that grow hair split faster than average too so they get hit hard and why so many chemo treatments make the patients lose their hair. Billions of normal cells also get hit which causes the general sickness all over while undergoing chemo. They are basically almost killing you with those meds but hoping to kill the cancer before you die from it.

Those sick lower leaves could just be the way that strain begins it's dying off near the end so you may not have root rot at all. The rest of the plant seems OK and treating something that may not be there could make things worse.

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Hmm that's actually a very interesting explanation and yeah understand why top feeding won't be effective anymore. Thanks maybe ill keep monitoring the plant over the next 2 weeks and if the dying off gets worse will hit it again with another h202 flush from the bottom up. Good analogy with the chemo btw.

Jjgrow420 said:

Disagree. Legalization fucked everything up.
I'm med, so for me I could care less about legalization. All it's done is drive the prices of things up, and made somethings harder to source. So sick of people asking 'do you like sativas or indicas'. Grrrrrrrr

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We haven't even legalised yet but even some of my boys over here roll their eyes when they hear people already talking about indica, sativa, cookies etc lol But then again everything the mainstream touches goes to shit you know?. Its a pattern ive noticed with video games, Comics (remember pre marvel movies marvel comics?), the internet it self!(remember pre '08 Internet)??? etc etc.

SupremeBudDrongo said:

We haven't even legalised yet but even some of my boys over here roll their eyes when they hear people already talking about indica, sativa, cookies etc lol But then again everything the mainstream touches goes to shit you know?. Its a pattern ive noticed with video games, Comics (remember pre marvel movies marvel comics?), the internet it self!(remember pre '08 Internet)??? etc etc.

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You got it brother. Makes me angry the people judging us, and fighting to throw us in jail over some herb are now the puppeteers pulling the strings and making us dance. Eat the rich.

This is after moving into the 3x3. It still kept growing so had to supercrop 4 top sites so they won't touch the lights. This is easily the largest Autoflower ive ever grown by sheer plant mass. Budwise though its a pretty poor producer it looks like. There are no long colas. Its mostly just a ton of bud sites that aren't really connected everywhere. They are turning purple though so it definitely is an Automatic Purple Kush. Imo this must be an odd phenotype because other than it being purple there is virtually no other similarity to what Buddha seeds describes as being typical for this strain.