Weird Mosaic Discoloration

Hello guys. I'm new at this forum because I can't find an answer to my problem at other forums. Maybe I can find here.

I have a problem on my Gorilla Glues. My other genetics do not have the same problem, they're super healthy.
I'm taking clones from clones. and the problem started on my 5th generation clones and still exist on 6th gen. It has been 1.5 years when I started with the first gen. I was thinking it is a Cal/Mag defiency and I bought "Grotek Cal-Max" and added to "Advanced Nutrients - Grow,Micro,Bloom" but after a month the problem is still exist on mother and clones.

I can't find anything similar to my problem. It looks like mosaic virus but the leaves only have mosaic colors! Their shape is good.
I cut a leaf and rubbed it on a clean leaf but the problem did not spread to healthy plant. If it was mosaic virus, it should spread.

I feed them great and lights are amazing, temperature is constant 25C at day light, 18-20C at night. (Winter)
Feeding chart below:

++ "Grotek Cal-Mag". Started with 2ml/L, now 5ml/L.




The mama going to be Albino soon.







Let's look closer to babies. Don't mind the white dots, they are aphid scars.





As you can see, new leaves starting with almost no problem but in short amount of time they're losing colors.
Also there is Bruce banner leaf at the left bottom. It's all good.

Lets check the mother now! (last weeks to harvest)




As you can see the harvest still gonna be good, THC level is nice but the shape and looking is not same. It looks like a different strain..
Lest check reall mother at from "back in the future" 2th gen.



The color was dark green but we have yellowish leaves now.
What do you think? Is it going to be a mutant or it's a deficiency problem?

BTW: I'm going to start from seeds for my next generation. But I have 2 months old 5 Gorilla in this situation, they're ready to flower in 2 weeks and I'm a crazy who can't relax without understanding WHY??? WHAT IS GOING ON???

Guys really? no answer?
At Least I expect a welcome to forum.

I only know about the problems I've had. BTW, Welcome!! So there are no bugs on the back side of the leaves? Check with a loup or a magnifying glass. One of the more experienced growers should be around soon.

Disclaimer: Not an expert, only small time in dirt med grower.

Moldy said:

I only know about the problems I've had. BTW, Welcome!! So there are no bugs on the back side of the leaves? Check with a loup or a magnifying glass. One of the more experienced growers should be around soon.

Disclaimer: Not an expert, only small time in dirt med grower.

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Tnx! finally someone arrived!
No it's not a bug problem, I also use insecticide for aphids and mites.
If it was bug problem than it should be on the other genetics too but its only related to Gorilla glues.
I also feed them with grow,micro,bloom set + cal/mag so maybe I'm missing another thing?
If not than it should be %100 mutation due to stress or genetic stabilisation problem. Also it can be aging problem because these clones almost 1.5-2 years old like i said. But nothing sure ofc. Also the problem do not have given name yet so unfortunately I can't search with a good keyword. I only found 1 case in this forum and he couldn't the problem either.

Variegation

Hmm i dont think ive ever heard of veriegation starting later (after cloning etc)
From my little experience veriegation can start on a seedling but then usually disappears on future clones.

chem d is a world renowned cut and it is usually veriegated. Ive been told triple calmag can make them mostly dark green but havent had much time to mess w her yet.
And the veriegation on chem d still looks heathy. My first impression when I see yours is th at theyre sick or deficient.

heres chem d and a pic of a veriegated seedling I had.

Craigson said:

Hmm i dont think ive ever heard of veriegation starting later (after cloning etc)
From my little experience veriegation can start on a seedling but then usually disappears on future clones.

chem d is a world renowned cut and it is usually veriegated. Ive been told triple calmag can make them mostly dark green but havent had much time to mess w her yet.
And the veriegation on chem d still looks heathy. My first impression when I see yours is th at theyre sick or deficient.

heres chem d and a pic of a veriegated seedling I had.

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I've seen that while I'm searching. It's way more different thing than my problem. Mine do not look like that and my every single leaf has similarity. Also it started after 5th clones and I believe that the main cause is stress. Also I never saw a deficiency like this. Because every single new leaf starts normal at first stage than in very short amount of time starts discoloration even before being mature leaf.

I had this problem at it turned out to be my water source.

It was old stored rain water.

Had to do a side by side vs tap water and sure enough.

Below are the two infected plants.

Nutty sKunK said:

I had this problem at it turned out to be my water source.

It was old stored rain water.

Had to do a side by side vs tap water and sure enough.

Below are the two infected plants.

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It's not looking exactly the same but very close. Did you solve the problem? If yes than how long did it take?
I use city tap water without any filter. I've think that and I started to put the water 24hr rest in a carboy but nothing has changed.
City tap water includes so many bad things and it could be the problem. It's a good idea!
I will try clean drinking water on my 2 plants to test it. If it works than I will buy a tap filter. Thanks for the advice.

morphinz said:

It's not looking exactly the same but very close. Did you solve the problem? If yes than how long did it take?
I use city tap water without any filter. I've think that and I started to put the water 24hr rest in a carboy but nothing has changed.
City tap water includes so many bad things and it could be the problem. It's a good idea!
I will try clean drinking water on my 2 plants to test it. If it works than I will buy a tap filter. Thanks for the advice.

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Well bear in mind it probably shows up differently in different strains.

I did solve it - it was the water I was using. Weird as i was using it just a month or so before with no ill affect. Then It messed up 5 seedlings.

It won’t cure an infected plant but you can test it on a new one in fresh soil.

Nutty sKunK said:

Well bear in mind it probably shows up differently in different strains.

I did solve it - it was the water I was using. Weird as i was using it just a month or so before with no ill affect. Then It messed up 5 seedlings.

It won’t cure an infected plant but you can test it on a new one in fresh soil.

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Maybe new clone in a new soil can solve the problem. In the end all the leafs gonna be new right?
I will share results soon. Thank you for your kindly advice!

morphinz said:

Maybe new clone in a new soil can solve the problem. In the end all the leafs gonna be new right?
I will share results soon. Thank you for your kindly advice!

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Yeah all needs to be started again.

hope this helps mate

Looks like the mosaic virus to me. I would bleach water the area, discard soil. I am extreme though. Virus do not always spread.

Muffincrumbs said:

Looks like the mosaic virus to me. I would bleach water the area, discard soil. I am extreme though. Virus do not always spread.

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It's not mosaic virus. Mosaic virus causes much more damage than just leaf discoloration.

Nutty sKunK said:

I had this problem at it turned out to be my water source.

It was old stored rain water.

Had to do a side by side vs tap water and sure enough.

Below are the two infected plants.

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Old post, just wanted to add I'm having identical issues. I am using 0 ppm RO water though, that's what's strange.