Weird shaped buds

Hello, not exactly a problem per-say, I have these weird semi circular shaped buds growing on one plant in my little grow space.
One side of the grow space is an old wall mirror, it is to reflect light back across the grow but I'm wondering if it is too intense and causing the buds to grow sideways, will this be a problem?


The other plant on the otherside of this plant, away from the mirror looks fine:


Bigger is better, right? Even if it is growing sideways

Id toss that top plant or branch, its screwed sorry.

It’s called faciation.

Interesting, looks like you got a polyploidy mutation. Look it up - wild stuff. Apparently labs are trying to figure this out bc you get increases in potency (potentially) and obviously size. Don't toss it!

Major Blazer said:

Interesting, looks like you got a polyploidy mutation. Look it up - wild stuff. Apparently labs are trying to figure this out bc you get increases in potency (potentially) and obviously size. Don't toss it!

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Buds with fasciation are cool looking but they also develop bud rot really easily if you aren’t careful. They can get massive and have a really strange structure to them. The stems will also grow the same way.

Makes sense with the bud being so dense.

I had an outdoor plant that did this on one branch last year. This is what fasciation looks like on the stems.

Some species dont show polyploidy - cannabis is one.

Others read about it and instantly applied it to cannabis because of its possibility to create super plants, they were wrong and cannabis has never shown it that we can tell of.

Most of this will be from stress not a genetic condition.

Major Blazer said:

Interesting, looks like you got a polyploidy mutation. Look it up - wild stuff. Apparently labs are trying to figure this out bc you get increases in potency (potentially) and obviously size. Don't toss it!

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I've had loads of them over the decades.

Nothing special...just a shit load of stem/branch.

Give me normal developed buds all day long over these fuck up branches.

2Hearts said:

Some species dont show polyploidy - cannabis is one.

Others read about it and instantly applied it to cannabis because of its possibility to create super plants, they were wrong and cannabis has never shown it that we can tell of.

Most of this will be from stress not a genetic condition.

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I think you need to double check

it has been observed in over 100 plant species,[8] including members of the genera Acer, Aloe, Acanthosicyos, Cannabis, Celosia, Cycas, Delphinium, Digitalis, Euphorbia, Forsythia, Glycine max (specifically, soybean plants),[10] Primula, Prunus, Salix and many genera of the cactus family, Cactaceae.

Look here

The OP has shown a picture of it and I can personally assure you that I've grown lots of plants which develop this.

Beautiful. No reason to toss it.

Yes just not cannabis, prove it? Where are all the ploidy plants in forty years of intense selective breeding.

Be serious ploidy is not a factor in cannabis and never has been, easy for you to say much harder to learn at a high level of genetic appreciation.

Talk is also cheap - proof will do better.

KK26 said:

I think you need to double check

it has been observed in over 100 plant species,[8] including members of the genera Acer, Aloe, Acanthosicyos, Cannabis, Celosia, Cycas, Delphinium, Digitalis, Euphorbia, Forsythia, Glycine max (specifically, soybean plants),[10] Primula, Prunus, Salix and many genera of the cactus family, Cactaceae.

Look here

The OP has shown a picture of it and I can personally assure you that I've grown lots of plants which develop this.

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@2Hearts Talk is cheap indeed - so what is it that's going on here? All I can muster up are research papers trying to exploit this mutation in cannabis and then dozens of other photos and threads that look just like the OP's photo all anecdotally claiming to exhibit the very mutation.

Long or short answer?

Good choice short answer.

Stress kills the plants ability to control dominance of what many term apical (a word common to many growers here and describes upward growth and the main growth tips).

So somehow you killed its ability to want to grow upwards.

This can be seen on the whole plant or localized to a branch or branches. Quite often even on a healthy plant you will see the very first small weedy not very well lit branches show the same weird growth from stress.

Fascination or however its spelt relates to stress problems but i never see cannabis growers use this distinction so apical dominance will get you a lot of threads over fasciation for your general intrests.

Going really deep we find that if a plant cant adapt to stress it generally dies or is outcompeted by one next to it that can. Cannabis is highly adapted to stress why we see it do loads of weird stuff when stressed like kill its apical dominance or turn purple or herm.

Its highly developed compared to the bulk of other plants, probably why it had no reason to evolve futher for millions of years.

Major Blazer said:

@2Hearts Talk is cheap indeed - so what is it that's going on here? All I can muster up are research papers trying to exploit this mutation in cannabis and then dozens of other photos and threads that look just like the OP's photo all anecdotally claiming to exhibit the very mutation.

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Appreciate the answer here but those aren't my plants haha. So basically you're saying this is the result of keeping the plant too close to the light - I could buy that. I fox tailed the shit out of some buds a while back due to light intensity and they looked weird as hell.

Proof?

Whatever it's called I had it on my last run. Pretty cool. It wasn't as pronounced as yours.

Trying to find a pic

I dont know what causes it, i use the word stress in the general hobby cannabis sote sense. That fasciation has a load of causes but its weird you cant just stress a plant and expect it. Genetic scientist probably explain better i just say what is written minus the guess work of all the not really plausable opinions.

Major Blazer said:

Appreciate the answer here but those aren't my plants haha. So basically you're saying this is the result of keeping the plant too close to the light - I could buy that. I fox tailed the shit out of some buds a while back due to light intensity and they looked weird as hell.

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Thank you for the answers people.

This plant has always been weird, the main stem split itself into two when it was about 3 weeks old, looking forward to some mutated smoke! I will be very vigilant for bud rot. Interested to see how this plant progresses.

I agree with 2hearts. From what I've been able to decipher on the subject, it does appear that it's a hormonal response to some damage of the growth tip.