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Eloyd

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What's up fellas. New here, I grow organically as a fun hobby. Mix my own soil using pro-mix BX and all the usual suspects. Some of my results:

Strawberry banana from RP (1kw)


Blue Dream from HSO (from seed, 250w)


My outdoor garden


OG Kush + a single NL auto (2x 600w)


...to name a few. Just wanted to say hello and show off a few plants.
What's up fellas. New here, I grow organically as a fun hobby. Mix my own soil using pro-mix BX and all the usual suspects. Some of my results:

Strawberry banana from RP (1kw)


Blue Dream from HSO (from seed, 250w)


My outdoor garden


OG Kush + a single NL auto (2x 600w)


...to name a few. Just wanted to say hello and show off a few plants.
Rhizzolo how many plants you running under those two 600 brother
 

Rhizzologic

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Nice bro I'm running dwc at the moment trying to cal me so I can get it together.. Hey rhizzolo how do you maximize Penetration with your 600 I ask cause I don't want no popcorn
Nice setup bro, you can train your plants so they spread like sweet pussy and take full advantage of the light, but when your tent/canopy is maxed out and there's no more space the only thing that will increase yield is more lumens per sq ft. A 1kw puts out 160,000 lumens, divide that by 16sq ft (4x4) and you've got the equivalent of direct sunlight in your growroom. Tough to beat with 600 watters in the same space, popcorn buds in my 4x8 are the reason I upgraded to 1kwers. You'll get more usable, solid, dense buds with the 1kw than you will with the 600w. Training will only take you so far before the canopy begins to interfere with light distribution.

The upgrade is worth it, pays for itself first harvest ;)
 

valjack

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I am a beginner grower. Attempting in a 10' X 8' greenhouse (as picture shown). Got a late start so I purchased (first week of July, they were almost a foot tall) "teens" of various strains and have them in pots (13).
The first 6, BLUEBERRY DIESEL I purchased looked tall, scraggly and sort of weak. They were accompanied by 2 scraggly weak looking TRAIN WRECK strain.
Following day I acquired 5 more of various strains that looked super healthy. These are also teens.
I am on well water so the ph is high. Been adjusting ph with SPA down to appropriate levels for soil growing. Now I just read that I should use vinegar instead.
I used "ROOTS ORGANIC" for soil.
PROBLEM IS that on the 2 TRAIN WRECK that never looked super healthy to begin with the leaves are turning brown. SEE PIC Now my healthiest second batch is starting this browning of leaves.
Now some of the others that started out looking really great they are starting this also.
Friend mentioned to me that maybe they are getting too hot and burning. Temp reads 115 sometimes in GH. But is that were true wouldn't all of them look burnt? All windows open and are screened in GH.
The first 6 BLUEBERRY DIESEL that looked scraggly and weak now look the best with no browing at all.
Any ideas on why this may be happening? Drainage is good on all pots.
I much appreciate any advise. Thanks!IMG_20150718_081448043 (1).jpg
 

Rezman2115

Active Member
I am a beginner grower. Attempting in a 10' X 8' greenhouse (as picture shown). Got a late start so I purchased (first week of July, they were almost a foot tall) "teens" of various strains and have them in pots (13).
The first 6, BLUEBERRY DIESEL I purchased looked tall, scraggly and sort of weak. They were accompanied by 2 scraggly weak looking TRAIN WRECK strain.
Following day I acquired 5 more of various strains that looked super healthy. These are also teens.
I am on well water so the ph is high. Been adjusting ph with SPA down to appropriate levels for soil growing. Now I just read that I should use vinegar instead.
I used "ROOTS ORGANIC" for soil.
PROBLEM IS that on the 2 TRAIN WRECK that never looked super healthy to begin with the leaves are turning brown. SEE PIC Now my healthiest second batch is starting this browning of leaves.
Now some of the others that started out looking really great they are starting this also.
Friend mentioned to me that maybe they are getting too hot and burning. Temp reads 115 sometimes in GH. But is that were true wouldn't all of them look burnt? All windows open and are screened in GH.
The first 6 BLUEBERRY DIESEL that looked scraggly and weak now look the best with no browing at all.
Any ideas on why this may be happening? Drainage is good on all pots.
I much appreciate any advise. Thanks!View attachment 3463715
Are you foliar feeding them? Or are you getting ANY water/nutes on the foliage?

Also, what kind of lights, air circulation, and soil? If u arent using lights and just making due with the sun, what kind of glass do u have? All of these play a role. I will help u find out ur problem as best i can
 

valjack

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I have added FloraNova "Grow" nutrient to water twice in past few weeks. This nutrient is supposed to be for growing hydroponically but I am using this since I have on hand. Have read that "less is more".
Growing outdoors in a greenhouse so no lights are needed. The picture to the left is a pic of the GH. The windows are glass and the roof is this hard plastic white material that has waves or ridges. So the upper sunlight is muted and not full strength. The windows all slide open and all are screened. There are two upper square windows that open on either end to ensure the flow of air that I keep open all the time. I have no fans inside the GH maybe I should?
Soil is ROOTS ORGANIC.
First off I think I will stop using the SPA down to lower the ph in water. I will try vinegar as I have read. I have white vinegar and BRAGGS "of the mother" apple cider organic vinegar. Which do you think would be better?
It does get really hot in the GH on days. But if the leaves were getting singed from heat and sun wouldn't all of them ? It is only happening to some of them, maybe 4 out of 13.
 

valjack

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Oh and should I mist them with nutrient added ph adjusted water occasionally? And if yes how often do you recommend? Thanks.
 

Rezman2115

Active Member
I have added FloraNova "Grow" nutrient to water twice in past few weeks. This nutrient is supposed to be for growing hydroponically but I am using this since I have on hand. Have read that "less is more".
Growing outdoors in a greenhouse so no lights are needed. The picture to the left is a pic of the GH. The windows are glass and the roof is this hard plastic white material that has waves or ridges. So the upper sunlight is muted and not full strength. The windows all slide open and all are screened. There are two upper square windows that open on either end to ensure the flow of air that I keep open all the time. I have no fans inside the GH maybe I should?
Soil is ROOTS ORGANIC.
First off I think I will stop using the SPA down to lower the ph in water. I will try vinegar as I have read. I have white vinegar and BRAGGS "of the mother" apple cider organic vinegar. Which do you think would be better?
It does get really hot in the GH on days. But if the leaves were getting singed from heat and sun wouldn't all of them ? It is only happening to some of them, maybe 4 out of 13.
Well, a big issue that I have seen, or heard, is people not being taught about "heat pockets". If your glass is morphed or the plastic is reflective and has curves and/or morphs in it, they will act like a magnifying glass when you would fry an ant. This is why I would NEVER use aluminium foil for reflection, and why I would have someone experienced to hang other materials as well. The only thing i do myself is paint.

As for fans, YES! You definitely need circulation. Dont rely on just natural breezes. Create your own. As far as how many and what kinds, i am not as qualified to answer that as others so i will see if someone else will step up to the plate for that.

Have u ever heard of or tried "silica blast"? Its a "nute" that helps strengthen the cell walls of your plant and allows it to be slightly more durable. I suggest looking into it. BE WARNED!! Silica blast has an extremely high alkaline PH. So make sure you test the PH after adding silica blast.
 

Rezman2115

Active Member
Oh and should I mist them with nutrient added ph adjusted water occasionally? And if yes how often do you recommend? Thanks.
No. DO NOT MIST!! Some like to mist, but i am against it. Especially as a noob. It is too easy to burn the plants if you dont have the correct experience and knowledge
 

Rezman2115

Active Member
Another question......do u have fungus gnats? If u dont know what they are, look it up and check. They are some annoying little bastards
 

valjack

Well-Known Member
Thank you for your valuable input. I never would have even considered the "magnifying glass effect" .
I will place a fan inside today for more circulation. The GH is next to a huge oak tree so there is not full sun in all parts of it during the day. As the sun moves so does the area that has less direct sun because of the oak trees shade. I have been going in there and moving the plants so that they are in direct sun all day. I am sorry I was unable to get a start on this grow when I should have in early Spring. Do you think I stand a chance of getting a good result being that I started with "teens" first week of July?
Stupid question, but if I rotate the pots during the day so that they are not in direct sunlight do the plants react negatively to being picked up and moved say 6 feet away in same location?
 

valjack

Well-Known Member
I have heard of "spider mites" but never fungus gnats. Looked it up and found this:
How do I detect them?

Like most tiny flying critters, fungus gnats have an irrational attraction to the color yellow. Purchase some yellow sticky cards from a garden center; yellow sticky tape works equally well. Place the sticky cards near your plants for a few days and observe what gets caught on it. If you see more than a few gnats, there are most likely larvae in your soil.
 

Rezman2115

Active Member
Yea, that is fungus gnats. Moving the plants isnt too big an issue usually, but i dnt kno enough info to give a good guesstimate. And do u have any clue how well the previous grower treated them? When were they germinated? I started mine july 1st this year, but in indoor so it doesnt really matter. I am m
not enough of an experienced grower to help you on all ur questions. Hopefully (tho i doubt it) someone else will help. I will see what i can learn and ill come back
 

Rezman2115

Active Member
First attempt at lolipopping did I go to far
Ummm.....what week into flowering are you(since going 12/12)? What strain? What is the length of the flowering cycle (8, 10, 12+ weeks)?

Unless you did it during veg. If thats the case, you know ur plant way better than I do.
 
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