lovelypoppy
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Hello, I am UK based - new here - is anyone else in the UK?
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Excessive_Toker
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CuriousFarmer420
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How's it going all? Merry Christmas!I am new here obviously and on my first grow. I have a DIY grow set up that is 30×24×60 and using a MarsHydro LED. My girls are 9 weeks old from bag seed and just finished first week of flower. Right now feeding FoxFarm Bloom and Cal-Mag with some Big Bud nutes on the way.
Couple of questions, based on current age do you think they will outgrow their space? Based on photos do they look phosphor deficient? Do they otherwise appear healthy? Some leaves look yellow and a couple curled up.
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Stltoed
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It could be a few things. Diagnosis usually needs white light for clarity. Are the spots? It kind looks like there are, but it just may be the lights. If it has large blotchy spots it may very well be phosphorus.
How many leaves on the plant are curling? Are they always older leaves? Is there any discoloration? How long has it been this way? If a long time do they get worse? Will they die?
About the plant height. This is determined by genetics mostly. What is the strain? Is it an indica or sativa? The plant looks a little (leggy). Looks like a hybrid. If you know the name look it up to see what it does in bloom. If you don' know, i would flip now. Sounds like you'e about ready considering you nutrient choice right now. It's probably gonna get tight. If are really worried try supercropping. Look it up. Just give a week or so between SC and flower, they need to heal a bit
I think they look good. If you truly believe it' a phosphorus issue,,, i think you may very well be right. Then going to flower will fix it. How long have you been using flower nutrients? If it's been more than a week and your leaf issues haven't gotten better its probably not a P issue in my opinion.
How many leaves on the plant are curling? Are they always older leaves? Is there any discoloration? How long has it been this way? If a long time do they get worse? Will they die?
About the plant height. This is determined by genetics mostly. What is the strain? Is it an indica or sativa? The plant looks a little (leggy). Looks like a hybrid. If you know the name look it up to see what it does in bloom. If you don' know, i would flip now. Sounds like you'e about ready considering you nutrient choice right now. It's probably gonna get tight. If are really worried try supercropping. Look it up. Just give a week or so between SC and flower, they need to heal a bit
I think they look good. If you truly believe it' a phosphorus issue,,, i think you may very well be right. Then going to flower will fix it. How long have you been using flower nutrients? If it's been more than a week and your leaf issues haven't gotten better its probably not a P issue in my opinion.
CuriousFarmer420
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Hi and thanks for taking a look at my plants. I thought the lights might make it hard to tell but yellowing leaves are between the veins the attached pic may show it better. It just seems to be lower leaves and the tops all look good. Seems the discoloration has been in the past cpl of weeks...leaves dont brown off but curl or get stiff. It has been twelve days since switching the light cycle. As I mentioned this is my first grow
and new to nutrients. I don't think
they have gotten a lot of Nitrogen during VEG, probably should have been more perhaps. I am growing in organic soil with perlite.
Stltoed
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If you think it's Nitrogen dont give it too much now, or for very long, there is a condition called Nitrogen toxicity which sucks too. A little bit of nitro now is ok, but don't add it after about 3 weeks in flower just to be sure.
Get some cal mag of some sort, add it to the directions on the bottle. There's a million different styles and brands.
Get the General Hydro Flora trio. Micro, Grow and Bloom. These nutes have been around for decades. They work in any media, they are very effective, they are wildly popular, they are super cheap and it a great way to learn about nutrients. Later everyone in the God Damn world will tell their brand is better... it may be, but never forget this. It's all the same shit... N-P-K. These three elements in marginally different strengths make up the base nutes we use. There are secondary nutrients and micro nutrients but a three stage version like the Trio sorts out a very high percentage of that. You will need a calmag additive (Calcium/Magnesium) If your using some types of filtered water, or you tap water is soft. There are other additives you may want to look into. Silica, PK boosters, a gardener, Fulvic acid, etc. If you use the Trio from the beginning with a little calmag you won'
Have much to worry about. If I were you I would get some calcium, or Epson salt ( follow directions you find online) to reinforce the calcium. When you are trying to "fix" your plants give them the ingredient and wait a couple days. Unless your plant is flatlining give your plant some time to heal. If you wait and there is absolutely no change then try the next one. If your plant IS in serious trouble or you have over fed it, then flush the media. Flood the soil, a couple times and let it dry out a bit.
Your gonna do just fine. I usually frequent another site, but this place has some smart folks on it. Keep it up. You'l never get bored with is hobby, if you'e lucky you might get really stoned
CuriousFarmer420
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It really doesn' take long to get the bug so to speak, they grow and react so fast it is exciting to check them every day.
I have started Cal-Mag in the last 3 weeks along with big bloom. Cal-Mag adds N is that correct, labelled 2-0-0 Is that ok thru flowering? There is so much to know and I think I will check the trio you mentioned for next grow. I want to keep it as simple as possible at first to not get overloaded.
I have noticed a few gnats also so need to get that issue resolved first, I have read Neem oil or mixture of hydrogen peroxide and water to treat soil. Watering in itself is a skill that takes time...if soil is good and dry in 3 gallon fabric pot what would be anticipated amount to water? Between a quart and half gallon? I use RO water only and soil ph is just under 7.0.
I have started Cal-Mag in the last 3 weeks along with big bloom. Cal-Mag adds N is that correct, labelled 2-0-0 Is that ok thru flowering? There is so much to know and I think I will check the trio you mentioned for next grow. I want to keep it as simple as possible at first to not get overloaded.
I have noticed a few gnats also so need to get that issue resolved first, I have read Neem oil or mixture of hydrogen peroxide and water to treat soil. Watering in itself is a skill that takes time...if soil is good and dry in 3 gallon fabric pot what would be anticipated amount to water? Between a quart and half gallon? I use RO water only and soil ph is just under 7.0.
Stltoed
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Simple is good. Later, if you'e like everyone else check out various other additives. I recommend Fulpower from Bioag, Floralicious (spelling?) from GH ( General Hydroponics) both Koolblooms from GH ( they are not at all the same), Rapid Start GH, Diamond Nectar which is Silica. Then there are root nutes/inoculants like Myccorhizea that protects roots. Then you'll want to try hydro and everything will change. You'e gonna have fun.
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Stltoed
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Sorry dude... soooo high.
It's not unusual for calmag products to have other shit. For instance Botanicare has iron in theirs. Which works out well.
I would use diluted peroxide because it' just Hydrogen and Oxygen when it breaks down
Let it dry a smidge, and give it at least a half gallon, unless you can' dispose of the wastewater easily. If that's an issue do a quart and or so.
It's not unusual for calmag products to have other shit. For instance Botanicare has iron in theirs. Which works out well.
I would use diluted peroxide because it' just Hydrogen and Oxygen when it breaks down
Let it dry a smidge, and give it at least a half gallon, unless you can' dispose of the wastewater easily. If that's an issue do a quart and or so.
CuriousFarmer420
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There is enough options to make your head swim for sure. Been smoking for years...daily for over 30. Getting towards retirement so needed a hobby and why not supply my own. Was thinking ffof for next start or coco, may be a while before venturing towards hydro but who knows. Will upgrading cfm of exhaust fan lower rh? Running 36% outside box and 70% inside...got a new fan coming so hoping that will help.
Stltoed
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It absolutely will. You want to completely recycle the air in your room every few minutes. Not only will it help your humidity it will help the plant by keeping a constant flow of O2. A good ventilation system and an occilating fan are very important during flower. Things can get crowded towards the end. A poor airflow promotes bud rot. You really don' want that. In flower your rh should be below 40%.
Stltoed
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Nice. There' a lot to it. But I think it's worth it. Find a thread and move in
New member but long time lurker. Looking for feedback on my current grow if anyone can help me. Here's a link to the thread http://rollitup.org/t/expert-feedback-needed.955875/
Stltoed
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You plants look good. Granted there are some strains that have colored trichomes sometimes, i dont know if your strains are like that. If they arent then i would say pull them. There are a lot of pistils they haven't turned. In that respect some of the buds look like they have a ways to go. So, why dont you pull the buds with the most cloudy and darkened trics. And save the buds deemed underdone for a week or two.
A lot of plants will show leaves that turn colors. Some turn yellow and dry up and are used to give the plant a little Nitrogen and help feed the buds by giving up their contents to the flowers. Some hardening additives like Koobloom dry will make this much more prolific.
The pictures are of a strain from Barneys Farm called Ayahuasca Purple. It was beautiful and did well for harvest.
Your plants are fine. Make sure your Trichomes are at least 80% cloudy. Usually amber trichomes tell you your plants is a tad bit over done. But some folks like the skunkier effects of a later harvest. It's possible you just have a couple dark ones early. If you havent started yo flush then i highly recommend you start, and go for 7 days
A lot of plants will show leaves that turn colors. Some turn yellow and dry up and are used to give the plant a little Nitrogen and help feed the buds by giving up their contents to the flowers. Some hardening additives like Koobloom dry will make this much more prolific.
The pictures are of a strain from Barneys Farm called Ayahuasca Purple. It was beautiful and did well for harvest.
Your plants are fine. Make sure your Trichomes are at least 80% cloudy. Usually amber trichomes tell you your plants is a tad bit over done. But some folks like the skunkier effects of a later harvest. It's possible you just have a couple dark ones early. If you havent started yo flush then i highly recommend you start, and go for 7 days
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Stltoed
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There are a LOT of pistils that haven't turned yet. Be sure you have a good way to check your trichomes.
If you use trichomes to judge doneness ( it's the most accurate) then make sure you have something to magnify the them to see them as clearly as possible. Be sure you can tell clear from cloudy. Then when they are a little bit better than 80% cloudy pull em'