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Leapfrog101

Leapfrog101

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This is just from my experience and I think a lot of growers would agree and that the plant will let you know. As in the leaves will begin to turn a light green. This is the point where you want to add a weak amount of nutesw 1/8 per gallon is a good start. After you add the nutes watch the plant over the next couple of days and you should see a turnaround in color from light to dark green after a day or two. After that just incrementally increase the amount of nutes per gallon. Hope this does it for you. let me know how it goes.
 
Happycat72

Happycat72

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Feeding seedlings can be iffy. In order for the plants(seedlings) to be able to use the nutes, the roots need to be healthy and growing with some vigor. If you are using a good soil or soilless mix, there should be plenty of nutes available through seedling stage. I have always started my seeds in jiffy pellets, without germinateing first (paper towel method) so I soak the pellets in a root drench such as Bush Doctor before popping the beans into the pellet and put them in a tray with a clear domed lid to keep the humidity up and the light in while the roots are becoming more established. You will figure it out with a little trial and error.
 
balactus

balactus

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Much appreciated, going off of what Happycat said though I think I'll wait till the end of the week before adding nutes. They are a little less than a week old and the soil is FF Ocean Forest. I hear it is chocked full of nutes that will keep them happy for a week or 2 by just watering.

Another QUESTION: While I am using distilled water at the moment to water them. When I add the nutes, which would be FF Grow Big Liquid Plant Food. It says its got a 6-4-4 ratio, will I need to balance the pH or since its already distilled and neutral it should be fine? If so I'll probably have to grab some pH Up and/or Down.
 
smokeplenty

smokeplenty

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Hey guy's

I'm new to growing, and was seeking some advice. i began about a month ago with some mystery seed's that i planted in some MG, which nuked by week 2. (eight to be exact) I know have one mystery seed remaining(at 3wks. veg.) i also have 1 blue dream (9 days from germ.) and paradise white-berry(6 days from germ.) i no longer use MG i used a organic mixture i bought from a local store. i'm currently using 5 100w cfl's mixture of both soft white,and day light. my question is i'm not sure when i should stop watering i mean i understand you feed every few days, but how do i know i put enough water in the container. i also have FF BB for nutes and something called superthrive. When should I use these on my small plants? They recently sprouted out of the soil (1 at 5days and the other at 3 Days) will post pics soon as i find out how until then later.
 
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LedRom

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Hi There,

I'm LEDRom, a french grower :)

I've started growing last year, and i'm registering here to learn more and more about Led Lights Growing.I'm the owner of a BlackStar UFO90W (several grows last year) and a Penetrator 183X (not used yet but i ll start a first grow with it in the end of August).

Thanks for your welcome :)
 
newcultivator

newcultivator

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balactus said:
Hey NC you really want to get fans with a high CFM. The intake can be less than the exhaust but for the exhaust you want to be able to push out warm air from the inside and pull in fresh new air roughly every 8 minutes or so. That's a Jorge Cervantes tip. I am doing a PC grow you can find in my signature so my fans are bit smaller than yours. You're going to want a good exhaust, intake, and another fan on the inside to circulate the air and depending on the space and what not I'd suggest having a fan or something dedicated to keeping your bulbs cooled down. My PC grow was pushing 100 with just 2 CFLs in the little space. I changed out the old exhaust and put in some new fans. Now I have all 3 lights inside and runs at a perfect 85 all day. You really just have to mess with it a bit.

As far as the carbon filter you may be better off building your own if money is an issue. Or even just get some carbon filter pads which are usually by the Britta water filters and what not at Walmart, you can cut those to fit over your exhaust. That's is another reason why you want a high CFM exhaust fan because you wanna be able to continuously move air through your carbon filter. But not too fast where the odor molecules won't have time to bind and stop at the filter. You can also get Ona Gel which reminds me I need to get some myself, its a strong odor eliminator. You can either order it or find it at an Organic Garden Shop maybe.
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Thanks man for your information. A couple more questions?

1) What is the proper name for the white plastic that you wrap you r room in for reflection?

2) Where do I put the carbon filter? i would think you put it near the intake, as the air is coming IN the room. or do you put it on the out take duct?

30 How do you apply Ona Gel?

Thanks a million!

NC
 
balactus

balactus

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newcultivator said:
Thanks man for your information. A couple more questions?

1) What is the proper name for the white plastic that you wrap you r room in for reflection?

2) Where do I put the carbon filter? i would think you put it near the intake, as the air is coming IN the room. or do you put it on the out take duct?

30 How do you apply Ona Gel?

Thanks a million!

NC
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1. The reflective padding you are looking for is called Mylar, I personally bought mine from Walmart. Mylar can be found in the Car Sun Shields, Security Blankets, and then there are also sheets retailed as for growing but those a little more expensive and usually found in organic shops or hydro stores. I suggest grabbing a Car Sun Shield and just cutting it to the sizes you need. I used almost every part of mine including the leftover puzzle pieces from the big cuts.

2. The carbon filter I am also having trouble with because it builds up heat a bit without having strong enough air flow. You always want to have it somewhere on your exhaust so that hot and dank smells from the grow box can be cleaned when pushed through the filter. I have 2x 80+CFM fans stacked on eachother and they aren't as great as they were after I put my filter on. It built heat up a couple degrees to where I am having heat problems again.

3. The Ona Gel comes in either a spray or a gel. What you do is spray/apply a generous amount to areas where the smell would seep out of the box. And then I am not 100 percent sure but if you had the gel you could punch a couple holes in the top of it and leave it open like that in the case so it neutralizes all the smell in there. But again I am not sure about that or how the chemicals in the Ona Gel will affect the plants once evaporated.

Hopefully this helps you out.
 
newcultivator

newcultivator

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balactus said:
Hey NC
you really want to get fans with a high CFM.
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Is this considered high ? If not what is?

The intake can be less than the exhaust but for the exhaust you want to be able to push out warm air from the inside and pull in fresh new air roughly every 8 minutes or so
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My room is going to be roughly 6 by 8. I was going to drill a hole in my wall about 6 inch in diameter and run a duct into the room; then, I was going to attach a small fan to the end of the duct and turn it on to suck the air in the room from outside. I was just going to use those small "computer fans" as Jorge calls them. My chimney is right there so I was going to buy that exhaust above in the hyper link I sent in this reply with this charcole filter cut it to size and fit that to the duct already attached to my chimney.

How does that sound? Also I am grabbing a tall fan to oscillate inside the room. Should it oscillate? Or should it blow toward the exhaust?

Wow, thanks for all your help.

NC
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balactus

balactus

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That sounds like a great idea exhausting into the chimney but I don't wanna say drill a hole simply because thats up to you. You have a ton more room that I have. You're gonna want a much much better exhaust. Maybe like an inline fan. They can run you up a bit but its really worth it. Then you can fit a much bigger and better carbon filter onto it. You won't even have to worry about smell. And I wanna correct something I said about the exhaust and intake, you want them around the same so that air continuously flows. I noticed that when I add a stronger flow in front than I have in back, the heat quickly rises. So keeping them even is good. I'm still having heat problems myself and will have to alter my design so that my exhaust comes out out from the top rear of the PC because my exhaust placement is just not cutting it for me. I would give anything to have a larger space to grow but it just cant happen for me right now. You really have a lot more room to play with so take advantage of it.
 
newcultivator

newcultivator

Member
balactus said:
That sounds like a great idea exhausting into the chimney but I don't wanna say drill a hole simply because thats up to you. You have a ton more room that I have. You're gonna want a much much better exhaust. Maybe like an inline fan. They can run you up a bit but its really worth it. Then you can fit a much bigger and better carbon filter onto it. You won't even have to worry about smell. And I wanna correct something I said about the exhaust and intake, you want them around the same so that air continuously flows. I noticed that when I add a stronger flow in front than I have in back, the heat quickly rises. So keeping them even is good. I'm still having heat problems myself and will have to alter my design so that my exhaust comes out out from the top rear of the PC because my exhaust placement is just not cutting it for me. I would give anything to have a larger space to grow but it just cant happen for me right now. You really have a lot more room to play with so take advantage of it.
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Thanks again. How about this one?....or this one?

Is that a better one?

Thanks again and again.

P.S....where is a good place to grab a GOOD carbon filter? I'm having trouble locating one.

NC
 
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JohnMay23

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IS THERE ANYONE THAT WILL HELP ANSWER MY QUESTIONS?

Hey guy's

I'm new to growing, and was seeking some advice. i began about a month ago with some mystery seed's that i planted in some MG, which nuked by week 2. (eight to be exact) I know have one mystery seed remaining(at 3wks. veg.) i also have 1 blue dream (9 days from germ.) and paradise white-berry(6 days from germ.) i no longer use MG i used a organic mixture i bought from a local store. i'm currently using 5 100w cfl's mixture of both soft white,and day light. my question is i'm not sure when i should stop watering i mean i understand you feed every few days, but how do i know i put enough water in the container. i also have FF BB for nutes and something called superthrive. When should I use these on my small plants? They recently sprouted out of the soil (1 at 5days and the other at 3 Days) will post pics soon as i find out how until then later.
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balactus

balactus

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Easy, when their container feels empty or when you dig your finger about an inch or so into the soil and there is no moisture then you should probably water. I only started growing and its easy to tell when they need to be watered. Just take note on the weight before and after you water.
 
smokeplenty

smokeplenty

Member
thanks i understand that but is there a certain amount thats need to be poured or that doesnt matter. reason why i ask is when i put more water in the longer it takes to dry which make since but i dont know if it had a side effect for over watering this way
 
balactus

balactus

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Its hard to drown these plants unless if you water more frequently than needed. So when you see the water running out the bottom after soaking the whole top you should be good to go.
 
daggamonster

daggamonster

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hey there guys 'n gals, just a quick hello from a newbie :-P loving the site so far. im planning my first indoor grow, to be up and running as soon as, i hope. so probly be questions........:mrgreen:
 
balactus

balactus

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JohnMay23 said:
thanks cuz any idea on feeding sprouts nutes like Foxfarm BB
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I haven't started using nutes yet myself, my seedlings were put in the ground between the 5th and 6th of this month. I plan on adding 1/8 to a gallon of nutes either by this weekend or next week. I've been told that you should wait till they start to change a little color to show that they have used up all the existing nutes in the soil you are using. I am using FF Ocean Forest organic soil. If you're using an organic soil I'd say between a week or 2 is when to start using small amounts of nutes and working your way up. Every other watering I believe.
 
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