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Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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As mentioned..... nitrogen “ storage “ wasn’t enough in leaf ....
Plant is focused on blooming and nitrogen use around week 6 drops a bit anyways since branching and new leaf building is stopped.
Nitrogen is still used for photosynthesis but flowers are bulking and building and dumping nitrogen on these plants at this point will not improve leaf appearance. I would do a 50/50 feed of grow and bloom then continue bloom after a week or so.

Keep buds happy and ride it out to end.
 
Kushash

Kushash

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Budzbuddha said:
As mentioned..... nitrogen “ storage “ wasn’t enough in leaf ....
Plant is focused on blooming and nitrogen use around week 6 drops a bit anyways since branching and new leaf building is stopped.
Nitrogen is still used for photosynthesis but flowers are bulking and building and dumping nitrogen on these plants at this point will not improve leaf appearance. I would do a 50/50 feed of grow and bloom then continue bloom after a week or so.

Keep buds happy and ride it out to end.
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We are usually on the same page brother but are you sure about giving any additional phosphorus in the feed.
I stayed quiet early but felt it was P tox when the OP 1st posted then waited for more info and his follow up posts suggest P tox.
I would think any additional P would be detrimental. No?
 
Budzbuddha

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Kushash said:
We are usually on the same page brother but are you sure about giving any additional phosphorus in the feed.
I stayed quiet early but felt it was P tox when the OP 1st posted then waited for more info and his follow up posts suggest P tox.
I would think any additional P would be detrimental. No?
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You know now that I am a bit more focused ( bong rips aside ) maybe it could as simple as Bloom was started too early.
 
Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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OP ..... instead of using the bloom .... you can top dress the HF instead and water in . It’s charged enough to feed plant .
That way you won’t over power your feeds .
 
Will Thayer

Will Thayer

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Kushash said:
I stayed quiet early but felt it was P tox when the OP 1st posted then waited for more info and his follow up posts suggest P tox.
I would think any additional P would be detrimental. No?
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I agree 100%, Hard to tell from photos but the yellowing does not seem to start from the bottom of the plant. Flushing the medium and maybe just a seaweed extract and water for a week at least. Calibrate pH meter just for piece of mind.

It is not my garden and I wish the OP the best results but adding more nutrients now does not seem the best route. To compromise the OP could try each suggestion on one plant. this could minimise the risk. Seaweed will have some NPK but its real value is the micros and plant stimulants for this situation.

Cheers,
Will
 
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Kushash

Kushash

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Will Thayer said:
I agree 100%, Hard to tell from photos but the yellowing does not seem to start from the bottom of the plant. Flushing the medium and maybe just a seaweed extract and water for a week at least. Calibrate pH meter just for piece of mind.

It is not my garden and I wish the OP the best results but adding more nutrients now does not seem the best route. To compromise the OP could try each suggestion on one plant. this could minimise the risk. Seaweed will have some NPK but its real value is the micros and plant stimulants for this situation.

Cheers,
Will
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Hi Will!
I'm a big fan of seaweed extract.
If he chose to give the plant some seaweed extract and Earth Worm Castings and nothing else instead of the DG it would probably still be heathy green today.


On the yellowing. It's easy to get confused and think there is a Nitrogen problem.
It has taken me a couple of years following Dr. Who and others to understand P toxicity.
The yellowing is most likely from nutrients being locked out because of the addition of too much P too soon.

A common mistake for new growers is to go full steam ahead with the bloom nutes at the beginning of flowering not realizing it is a slow transition to bloom nutes.
 
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beercan

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That is most definitely usfel info, i had no idea, my thought process was as she got larger and started stacking up the more nutes she would need, if theres any good that came from this its that i learned something! Should i just keep her on plane water?
 
Will Thayer

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Kushash said:
Hi Will!
I'm a big fan of seaweed extract.
If he chose to give the plant some seaweed extract and Earth Worm Castings and nothing else instead of the DG it would probably still be heathy green today.
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Hello Kushash,

Seaweed extract is always within reach when I am growing. It is cheap and full of goodness. A wonderful plant tonic. Vermi-compost is another staple I would not grow without. When I started growing there was no internet. Just gardening books from the library. A few bag seeds and a bag or two of compost in the backwoods of Virginia. I left the USA in 1994 and ended up in the Netherlands where I had the good fortune to learn from some great Dutch gardeners. Brother I can go on for hours about the mistakes I made. Just kept plugging away and each grow got better with time.

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That is most definitely useful info, i had no idea, my thought process was as she got larger and started stacking up the more nutes she would need, if there is any good that came from this its that i learned something!
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Hello Beercan,

Forgive me for prying, Is this your first grow? Could you detail your chosen medium and equipment for me if it is not too much of a bother? Are you using soil or a something like a coco coir mix? Are you hand watering or using a reservoir and pump? What sort of lights?

Cheers,
Will
 
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beercan

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Will Thayer said:
Hello Kushash,

Seaweed extract is always within reach when I am growing. It is cheap and full of goodness. A wonderful plant tonic. Vermi-compost is another staple I would not grow without. When I started growing there was no internet. Just gardening books from the library. A few bag seeds and a bag or two of compost in the backwoods of Virginia. I left the USA in 1994 and ended up in the Netherlands where I had the good fortune to learn from some great Dutch gardeners. Brother I can go on for hours about the mistakes I made. Just kept plugging away and each grow got better with time.



Hello Beercan,

Forgive me for prying, Is this your first grow? Could you detail your chosen medium and equipment for me if it is not too much of a bother? Are you using soil or a something like a coco coir mix? Are you hand watering or using a reservoir and pump? What sort of lights?

Cheers,
Will
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Will not my furst grow, i used happy frog soil, hand watering and she is under 2 260 watt hlg LEDs, i think i just overdosed her on nutes, as she got larger and required more water i kept upping nutes when she went to flower, when it was in veg i ran into trouble under feeding her and bounced her out of that, then put her into flower, i was giving nutes every watering, so i guess my question is do i feed every other watering?
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beercan

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Will not my first grow, i used happy frog soil, hand watering and she is under 2 260 watt hlg LEDs, i think i just overdosed her on nutes, as she got larger and required more water i kept upping nutes when she went to flower, when it was in veg i ran into trouble under feeding her and bounced her out of that, then put her into flower, i was giving nutes every watering, so i guess my question is do i feed every other watering?
 
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beercan

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Been giving straight water for almost a week and symptoms seem to have slowed a bit, looks like it is regaining some color on new growth
 
Wastei

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beercan said:
Been giving straight water for almost a week and symptoms seem to have slowed a bit, looks like it is regaining some color on new growth
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Probably lockout from to much feeding which results in low PH in the medium. Check your runoff every third watering. I usually go feed feed water in dirt half strength 0.6-0.7 EC
 
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