what are your preventative maintenance routines?

mite eggs can lay dormant for months from what I understand. I'm a big fan of neem oil too, didn't realize it has the same chemicals as azamax. Well I already bought the bottle so mine as well use it

After reading about AVID I don't want to bother getting a respirator and hazmat gloves to use it. Problem is I can't return it to Amazon.com since it is a hazardous chemical. If anyone who uses AVID would like to score a good deal on a 8 oz. bottle brand new sealed in package PM me. I also have 2 packages of 20 mosquito dunks brand new sealed in package.

The Growery said:

mite eggs can lay dormant for months from what I understand. I'm a big fan of neem oil too, didn't realize it has the same chemicals as azamax. Well I already bought the bottle so mine as well use it

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azamax wishes it had the same chemicals.. it only uses one mite repellent out of many, unlike neem. i cant recall all the good stuff in neem, but its awesome. look into karanja oil too, another good product. have you ever noticed your nitrogen go up after you use it? aslo the way GH processes there product makes it much weaker imo. cold process things are always more beneficial i believe.

I will probably go back to just using neem oil spray once I run out of the stuff I bought

Why are you guys spraying anything on your plants other then nutes for foliar spraying? You shouldn't need a single pesticide if you follow the rule of cleaning your room top to bottom before you bring in plants, maintaining the temps and humidity, quarantine anything you bring in and only use sticky fly strips as a precaution.

CashCrops said:

Why are you guys spraying anything on your plants other then nutes for foliar spraying? You shouldn't need a single pesticide if you follow the rule of cleaning your room top to bottom before you bring in plants, maintaining the temps and humidity, quarantine anything you bring in and only use sticky fly strips as a precaution.

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Not true. I went years without an incident of mites. not ever. I am clean as hell too and use a tyvek suit coverall when I go in the room and I have a strain called ice that is mite food. so many years without knowing what the big deal was and how all these people are getting mites and now I know it is very much strain dependant. Ice got mites and it sat next to Acid-surounded actually- and acid didn't get a single one on it. ICe was a battle for a month to get them dead and gone and not laying eggs. clean clean clean and bleach it again works really well and is recomended but some strains are mite food and they will crawl thru hell to get to that strain. The room is cool, dry and full of fly traps and it just slows them down. That's why the preventative mighty wash now for that strain, it's necessary. to say some one is just dirty or unclean in their garden is just an asumption probably from someone who hasn't had to deal with mites......yet.

Preventative measure that I take ..

Clean and maintain disinfection within the grow area ( No dead leaves on the floor or plants either ) , always keep the air moving to avoid molds ect .. Quarantine new stock for 3 weeks minimal .. Inspect daily for pest and possible fungus as well . I do not use chemicals as a preventative I use my eyes and sticky traps as well as adequate ventilation ..

Be observant in all ways , pay attention and keep a vigilant eye out for insects and fungus .. Most times not if these issues are caught in the infancy stage they can be controlled and eradicated ..

I could add much more but you get the idea ........Peace PotSnob

Sounds like ice wouldn't make the cut in my room.

Much better smoke and genetics out there, without the hassle of being succeptible...

Those mites won't stand much of a chance if you bring your temps down at night.

ProfessorPotSnob said:

Preventative measure that I take ..

Clean and maintain disinfection within the grow area ( No dead leaves on the floor or plants either ) , always keep the air moving to avoid molds ect .. Quarantine new stock for 3 weeks minimal .. Inspect daily for pest and possible fungus as well . I do not use chemicals as a preventative I use my eyes and sticky traps as well as adequate ventilation ..

Be observant in all ways , pay attention and keep a vigilant eye out for insects and fungus .. Most times not if these issues are caught in the infancy stage they can be controlled and eradicated ..

I could add much more but you get the idea ........Peace PotSnob

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very sound advice POTSNOB so what do you use when you do get them? i did not have spider mites until i had to bring them in the house and the house plants had them imo. so i used mighty wash. now comes the cleaning lmao

oldesthippy said:

very sound advice POTSNOB so what do you use when you do get them? i did not have spider mites until i had to bring them in the house and the house plants had them imo. so i used mighty wash. now comes the cleaning lmao

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I like the Mighty Wash if in flower , but in the end I have had too resort to using No Pest Strips in order to fully eradicate Mites within the bloom room .. When in veg stages I use and advocate Horticultural Oils . They are non toxic and work well . Spider Mites can build immunity to man made creations but never have I seen such with Natural Oils ( Sesame , Fish , Rosemary to name a few ).. I do not use oils once beyond the transition into bloom due to the residues that they leave ..

None the less , in the end this works but vigilance and a keen eye is where the battle usually ends for me .. I am relentless when fighting mites and I inspect over and over in order to find the survivors . Once I find them the battle is done and I claim Victory .

Sounds like you need some TangleFoot for the houseplants ... It will stop Mites from living on them in a very short time ..Peace PotSnob

Rising Moon said:

Sounds like ice wouldn't make the cut in my room.

Much better smoke and genetics out there, without the hassle of being succeptible...

Those mites won't stand much of a chance if you bring your temps down at night.

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night temps are usually around 65. I dont like to go lower.

Oh, and the ice is a personal favorite. it's sentimental-the first purchased genetics I have ever had. The taste is unique as well, the potency is not tops but very decent and the type of high is perfect for me. Its one of those that is like an old friend. The mites aren't even the half of it either LOL, she herms in the 7th to 8th week of flower no matter what I do and roots like shit but like I said sentimental value and a perfectly suited strain for me. it's not the typical ice plant either I tried to order more seeds and they didn't come out the same. You're right she shouldn't make the cut but she is like that crazy-ass girl you keep banging even when she burns your clothes and freaks out on you all the time.

Rising Moon said:

Sounds like ice wouldn't make the cut in my room.

Much better smoke and genetics out there, without the hassle of being succeptible...

Those mites won't stand much of a chance if you bring your temps down at night.

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never worked for me, i even put one out in the snow for 30mins. still had mites. kept my nights a cool 60, still had'em. there warriors

mushead said:

azamax wishes it had the same chemicals.. it only uses one mite repellent out of many, unlike neem. i cant recall all the good stuff in neem, but its awesome. look into karanja oil too, another good product. have you ever noticed your nitrogen go up after you use it? aslo the way GH processes there product makes it much weaker imo. cold process things are always more beneficial i believe.

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You have that backwards. Azamax uses the active compound in neem (Azadirachtin A&B), and also has 100 other limonoids (according to their website). It's neem oil on steroids ..... but is 100% organic.

I love the stuff.

Azamax is the shit...it works great n u don't need a hazmat suit on to apply it.

I like neem too but it is not as affective as azamax or mighty wash.

Corso312 said:

Azamax is the shit...it works great n u don't need a hazmat suit on to apply it.

I like neem too but it is not as effective as azamax or mighty wash.

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as far as ingredients go Neem should be much more effective, however i dont know what your application rates are. Azamax only has a small amount of (1) bug repellent. Neem has many, and tons of beneficial stuff like omega 3's and other fatty acids. ive personally never had great luck with Aamax, but if its working for you thats awesome. a good neem/karanja oil mix and sns 217 is the only thing ive had 100% success with, haven't used the sns too long though. i like to use them on a every other schedule so the mites cant build up a defense to it. having said that though, not all neem is created equal. gotta look for the good sourced stuff, minimally processed as much as possible imo. i also like yucca instead of aloe juice, yucca is the shit!

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as far as ingredients go Neem should be much more effective, however i dont know what your application rates are. Azamax only has a small amount of (1) bug repellent. Neem has many, and tons of beneficial stuff like omega 3's and other fatty acids. ive personally never had great luck with Aamax, but if its working for you thats awesome. a good neem/karanja oil mix and sns 217 is the only thing ive had 100% success with, haven't used the sns too long though. i like to use them on a every other schedule so the mites cant build up a defense to it. having said that though, not all neem is created equal. gotta look for the good sourced stuff, minimally processed as much as possible imo. i also like yucca instead of aloe juice, yucca is the shit!

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I guess whatever works for you, keep on using it. I use neem (Einstein oil) along with rosemary extract (which is basically what the sns is) once in a while to mix it up, but if I see any mites, I use either Aazamax or Mighty Wash. There is just no comparison to the effectiveness of those two products compared to neem oil.

I'm not trying to argue with you, so we can agree to disagree on this I suppose.

You are correct, the neem at Lowes in organic section is not as strong as hydro shop neem IMO.

I use all three..mites build resistance to everything, gotta mix em up n throw em a curveball or changeup ...not straight fastballs.

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I guess whatever works for you, keep on using it. I use neem (Einstein oil) along with rosemary extract (which is basically what the sns is) once in a while to mix it up, but if I see any mites, I use either Aazamax or Mighty Wash. There is just no comparison to the effectiveness of those two products compared to neem oil.

I'm not trying to argue with you, so we can agree to disagree on this I suppose.

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i have friends that swear by Azamax too. its not arguing if it works for you right? i just wanted to put that out there that i didnt have much luck with it. ive also used shitty neem products too. i too use rosemary extracts, smells so much better doesnt it? im just now tring out Quantum Apocalypse, and so far its amazing. the mix comes out perfect unlike most homemade neem mixes. as far as its ability to kill mite's and egg;s idk, i currently am clean. i'll try to find the ingredient list for my neem again vs azamax. you say GH listed it's ingredients on it's site?

Corso312 said:

You are correct, the neem at Lowes in organic section is not as strong as hydro shop neem IMO.

I use all three..mites build resistance to everything, gotta mix em up n throw em a curveball or changeup ...not straight fastballs.

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i agree, no time off for me, and a constant rotation. i assume i have had them every grow, and its been almost two years since they've been back. what really fucks me is when i have patients over that visit other grows or just have mites at home too, now anyone that goes in the Lab has to wear a full body white lab coat . its a little extreme yes, but i HATE mites.