What Base Nutrient line are you running?

common comercial bulk cheapness sensi bloom with a 1-1-2 ratio that obviously sucks so you have to by there other crap to get any results and as for purity -urea LOL

my first 1K MH was '84 but I'm sure no expert like you.... ouch

Nitrogen (N)....................................................4.0% OBVIOUSLY A MUCH BETTER FORMULA and even has enough magnesium LOL no cal mag needed
0.25% Ammoniacal Nitrogen
3.75% Nitrate Nitrogen FLORA NOVA BLOOM AND ONLY ABOUT 10 TIMES LESS DILUTED THAN ADVANCED
Available Phosphate (P2O5)............................8.0%
Soluble Potash (K2O).......................................7.0%
Calcium (Ca).....................................................4.0%
Magnesium (Mg).............................................2.0%
2.0% Water Soluble Magnesium (Mg)
Sulfur (S)..........................................................2.0%
2.0% Combined Sulfur (S)
Boron (B)........................................................0.01%
Chlorine (Cl)...................................................0.01%
Cobalt (Co)...................................................0.002%
Copper (Cu)...................................................0.01%
0.01% Chelated Copper (Cu)
Iron (Fe)...........................................................0.1%
0.1% Chelated Iron (Fe)
Manganese (Mn)...........................................0.03%
0.03% Chelated Manganese (Mn)
Molybdenum (Mo)......................................0.003%
Zinc (Zn).........................................................0.01%
0.01% Chelated Zinc (Zn)
Derived from: Ammonium Molybdate, Ammonium Phosphate,
Calcium Nitrate, Cobalt Sulfate, Copper EDTA, Iron DTPA, Iron EDTA,
Magnesium Sulfate, Manganese EDTA, Potassium Borate, Potassium
Nitrate, Potassium Phosphate, and Zinc EDTA.

I don't mean to come of so harsh but to be called uneducated naive and told to read a book by that jack off...just couldn't help it

'I'm glad you know how to copy and paste but show me a side by side grow? For that matter show me any grow. Ha ha You are a super pro

I don't need to prove myself to you the labels were shown to prove it ( look them up your self) and i am not willing to put my grow out for the public to see it . Maybe common sense... But you could check out uncle Bens side by sides with advanced on these forumns

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You are a mindless troll with little experience no common sense and probably a low IQ. I started growing in the early 80s and obviously have read a lot more than you.
In fact the guaranteed analyses in advanced grow and bloom is so poor it doesn't even contain most of the essential micro elements. To top it off the gimps like fat Mike that brainwashed you and the other idiots with there advertisement bs like Rosefuck magazine use urea in there hydro formula. Even cheap nutes like Dyna grow ( a step below flora nova) are more complete. I don't have much time for you today but maybe you should look at Uncle Bens comparisons on these forums.

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I appreciate you clearing the air in the Az forums about synthetic nute lines. You are correct, DynaGro and Jacks are going to give you way better yields / results for a much better price than anything made for the hobbyist. You won't find either of those products at stores around town because there is simply not enough mark-up in it for the store. Furthermore, being a complete solution (they have been around for over 100 years combined), you will spend less on all the random additives you get pushed into with other lines. I am not really into growing with synthetics, but if I were to be growing in a strictly yield driven environment, while still driven to get good results, I would definitely go with something proven outside of the cannabis hobbyist culture (dynagro or jacks).

Oh yah, just remembered reading this too...you can send your soil samples to Jacks and they will design/recommend a nutrient line tailored to the needs of your medium. That's pretty badass.


I have 10 different strains in flower right now, all sharing the same beds getting the same exact feeding schedule of Earth Juice / kelp . When using the earth juice line you actually do cover all the micro / macros. Kelp, while not only promoting cell stretching and growth, also contains POWERFUL chelating compounds that make all the micronutrients readily available to the plant.
It goes without saying there are no deficiencies. I don't use calmag: the grow and bloom in junction cover that alone. As far as I know, the only way I could find a cheaper fully organic line than EJ, is by making my own (and I don't have a local source of seabird guano or kelp) I am starting to build the soil more and more, as I don't till the beds, and am looking to actually ween myself off the bottled stuff. People complain about organic yields, and while I am not overly impressed with 23 oz per 1kw, I feel that I am improving upon that and learning more and more about the plant needs through organics. That is one thing I am really enjoying about the multi-part line, is that I can truly tailor my feedings.

I saw that on jacks website also and was contemplating getting some custom made. We always used to use powdered works good and why pay for water when using synthetics. I don't buy much from the local stores I usually use greentree hydro out of cali and save big. Wish I had room to do outdoor organics though. Keep up the good work.

This is what I use right now

thecoolman said:

You are a mindless troll with little experience no common sense and probably a low IQ. I started growing in the early 80s making my own hydro set ups under halides before there were hydro stores and obviously have read a lot more than you. I currently run a drain to waste 8000 watt set up.
In fact the guaranteed analyses in advanced grow and bloom is so poor it doesn't even contain most of the essential micro elements. To top it off the gimps like fat Mike that brainwashed you and the other idiots with there advertisement bs like Rosefuck magazine use urea in there hydro formula. Even cheap nutes like Dyna grow ( a step below flora nova) are more complete. I don't have much time for you today but maybe you should look at Uncle Bens comparisons on these forums.

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Talk is cheap buddy. Let's do a side by side, GUARENTEE more people like my vegan organics then your synthetic line. Low IQ? Ha ha is that how you insult somebody? You really should read a book and get out of the 80s. New times comes new techniques.

Well lets see i have grown in coco, sunshine 4, rock wool flood, rockwool drip, soil organic, soil synthetic, flood and drain gravel, perlite, perlite hempys, flood
and drain hydroton ect . Tell me your new technique that I have missed. Tried them all and guess what organic is the oldest LOL

PS Didn't you find the mindless troll part more insulting? Reality sucks sometimes!

Hey all, AZ patient here and currently using floranova series in coco handwater drain to waste. Got my stuff transitioned to Super Soil so I can't wait to see the results.

thecoolman said:

Well lets see i have grown in coco, sunshine 4, rock wool flood, rockwool drip, soil organic, soil synthetic, flood and drain gravel, perlite, perlite hempys, flood
and drain hydroton ect . Tell me your new technique that I have missed. Tried them all and guess what organic is the oldest LOL

PS Didn't you find the mindless troll part more insulting? Reality sucks sometimes!

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You've grown in all of those yet you still haven't done what I do. It sucks to get a reality check sometimes and I'm sorry I've gotten you so angry. Maybe you should lay off the synthetics and go back to organics...maybe that hostility will calm itself. I don't find anything insulting on the web. You are entitled to yoUr opinion so why take offense? Ha ha and my "new" technique is nothing new just perfected.

Anyone use Super Soil or another all dry organic soil mixture just add water?

thecoolman said:

Well lets see i have grown in coco, sunshine 4, rock wool flood, rockwool drip, soil organic, soil synthetic, flood and drain gravel, perlite, perlite hempys, flood
and drain hydroton ect . Tell me your new technique that I have missed. Tried them all and guess what organic is the oldest LOL

PS Didn't you find the mindless troll part more insulting? Reality sucks sometimes!

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Veganic is very different than anything you have mentioned... Do you know why they call it that?
Canna is not new either, it has been around possibly since the 80's in the NL.

Joined today and already starting a pissing contest about being an expert, seems familiar.....
Agree to disagree, everyone has their own way of doing things, but the product ultimately speaks for itself.

headtreep said:

Anyone use Super Soil or another all dry organic soil mixture just add water?

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Do not cut corners and use Michigan Mix Super Soil in the bag..
Garbage, from experience.. Mix it yourself, you will be much more satisfied with the outcome.

Subcool super soil recipe

Is it just me or does the "coolman" come off as kind of a B.S. jerk ? bummer would enjoy some good exchange of info . . . I know so little

Wolfhound said:

Is it just me or does the "coolman" come off as kind of a B.S. jerk ? bummer would enjoy some good exchange of info . . . I know so little

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His info is good, I have seen this before they just come from 2 different schools of thought completely

Wolfhound said:

Is it just me or does the "coolman" come off as kind of a B.S. jerk ? bummer would enjoy some good exchange of info . . . I know so little

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I agree with the bs part. His info is okay except for being bias. But like I said before everyone is entitled to their opinion.