what came first ghost og or bubba kush?

hyroot

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Yeah that doesn't say anything that says ghost og is chem X og...

Is says its the "mother of all og cuts" which is interesting because I think both sfv and Tahoe are more fire. But hat my opinion. But no mention of a cross or sourcing any legitimate info anywhere. So I'm not entirely dissuaded from what I initially thought.
Look up ghost og on Seedfinder.eu
 

kgp

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It's all speculation. Like mentioned above, no will ever know. I highly doubt ghost is Chem cross. Ghost got the cut from orgnkid so I know ghost didn't make the cross so you could probably cross that one off. Bubba is flame, ghost is too, I prefer other OG cuts to the ghost but it's still really good.
 

hyroot

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Considering there are thousands of stories about how OG started and thousands of stories about how Bubba got started I am willing to say no one knows.

Watch hash church episode 52. Bubba and Josh d explain how they came up with og and bubba kush, named them and brought them to California from florida in the 90's. What strains they really come from. Og was some random bag seed from some friends that grew some fire. Bubba kush was bag seed from some northern lights.
 

kmog33

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Look up ghost og on Seedfinder.eu
theres a lot of inaccurate info on seed finder. And for all the ghost I've seen looks more like the other ogs than a chem X og cross.
It's all speculation. Like mentioned above, no will ever know. I highly doubt ghost is Chem cross. Ghost got the cut from orgnkid so I know ghost didn't make the cross so you could probably cross that one off. Bubba is flame, ghost is too, I prefer other OG cuts to the ghost but it's still really good.
I have the same impression as you here. I wonder when the chem got thrown in to ghost og claimed lineage.
 

kgp

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theres a lot of inaccurate info on seed finder. And for all the ghost I've seen looks more like the other ogs than a chem X og cross.

I have the same impression as you here. I wonder when the chem got thrown in to ghost og claimed lineage.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was somewhere in there but structure, yeild, density, high, and smell are pretty much not even close.
 

kmog33

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There's also a lot of accurate info on seed finder.
I agree, and I like what they're trying to do. But it's not the rarest thing for me to be looking up lineage and be like, that doesn't sound right to me... Or things I know are incorrect.

Im not saying it's wrong that there's chem in there, just it's weird that in all of the time ghost og has been around it seems that the chem in the line is a new addition to the cross. As opposed to saying that og is a chem cross and crossing it with chem would technically just be a chem bx. But I don't think that's right either lol.

It'd be nice if there was a legit source for the info on lineage lol.
 

kmog33

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I wouldn't be surprised if it was somewhere in there but structure, yeild, density, high, and smell are pretty much not even close.
Yeah I remember ghost being a bit more different from Tahoe or sfv than either of the two was from each other, but I just don't see the chem being crossed into og like that to make ghost. I feel like of that were the case the yield for sure would be way better with ghost than it is Ime.

I think chem is in there just as much as its I any of the other og cuts that haven't been recrossed.
 

hyroot

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I agree, and I like what they're trying to do. But it's not the rarest thing for me to be looking up lineage and be like, that doesn't sound right to me... Or things I know are incorrect.

Im not saying it's wrong that there's chem in there, just it's weird that in all of the time ghost og has been around it seems that the chem in the line is a new addition to the cross. As opposed to saying that og is a chem cross and crossing it with chem would technically just be a chem bx. But I don't think that's right either lol.

It'd be nice if there was a legit source for the info on lineage lol.

Chem isn't in og kush. No one knows the lineage of og kush. It was some random bag seed from some really good weed from bubba and Josh d's friend. They called it kush. It was just a name. Nothing to do with hindu kush. Then years later after it circulated in california there were S1' bag seeds of that kush going around so Josh d and bubba started calling it og kush the og was an ode to L.A. still to this day no one knows the parents of og kush.
 

kmog33

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Chem isn't in og kush. No one knows the lineage of og kush. It was some random bag seed from some really good weed from bubba and Josh d's friend. They called it kush. It was just a name. Nothing to do with hindu kush. Then years later after it circulated in california there were S1' bag seeds of that kush going around so Josh d and bubba started calling it og kush the og was an ode to L.A. still to this day no one knows the parents of og kush.
No one know whether chem is in og or not. And a lot of people still seem to claim it in the lineage was my only point. Is there is just as likely of a chance of og coming directly from chem as there is as ghost og being an og cut crossed with chem.

And if you're going by the lineage you're speaking of it was bagseed of "dog kush" or whatever they called it at the time that I have seen described as heavy chemical funk that puts you down like a "dog". Ive also read that that chem is where that line is speculated to be from. But that is again just as likely as any of the rest of this speculation lol. As you stated, no one know the true lineage.

But as far as I know ghost sourced his og cut the same way swerve did Tahoe and sfv. He didn't make it to the best of my knowledge.
 
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kmog33

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It's kind of funny that 8 or so years ago the dead show bagseed story was mostly regarded as the og lineage, but now it's the chem line lineage instead and there are a bunch of new stories about where og comes from that sound eerily similar to the chem line story. It's like every time a clone only can't be explained by the actual creators for whatever reason, some crazy hippy bagseed story pops up to give a summary haha.


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hyroot

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It's kind of funny that 8 or so years ago the dead show bagseed story was mostly regarded as the og lineage, but now it's the chem line lineage instead and there are a bunch of new stories about where og comes from that sound eerily similar to the chem line story. It's like every time a clone only can't be explained by the actual creators for whatever reason, some crazy hippy bagseed story pops up to give a summary haha.


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That's where a lot of clone only's really come from. Only a few know the real lineage like the crosses from cookie fam. Those are unreleased. The rest are just random bag seeds. The only ones with the history of their lineage know are ones made or handled by real breeders back then . Like Breeder Steve and Skunk Man Sam. All their strains from back then are clone only now too. There's f2's from other breeders though. Cash crop ken made f2's of breeder steves shiskaberry and bodhi made f2's of breeder steves block head and aficianado made f2's of sensi seeds afghani 1.
 

kmog33

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That's where a lot of clone only's really come from. Only a few know the real lineage like the crosses from cookie fam. Those are unreleased. The rest are just random bag seeds. The only ones with the history of their lineage know are ones made or handled by real breeders back then . Like Breeder Steve and Skunk Man Sam. All their strains from back then are clone only now too. There's f2's from other breeders though. Cash crop ken made f2's of breeder steves shiskaberry and bodhi made f2's of breeder steves block head and aficianado made f2's of sensi seeds afghani 1.
Yeah I think you're probably right on that. But even gsc is in question now about who actually know what went into it and whether the cookies fam is just capitalizing on a completely bs story with bagseed they grew out from someone else's nug and claimed all of what we're hearing now. But that's the magic of the clone onlys. All of the mystical bs they're shrouded in. Haha.
 

greywind

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Watch hash church episode 52. Bubba and Josh d explain how they came up with og and bubba kush, named them and brought them to California from florida in the 90's. What strains they really come from. Og was some random bag seed from some friends that grew some fire. Bubba kush was bag seed from some northern lights.
This. The story was set straight. A buddy of theirs took a cut to Lake Tahoe, and so on and so on to the billion and one different OG's we have now.
 

Mr Hyde

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Sprouting beans is like having children, a lot of people call their strains whatever they want and market it as such. All you have to do is travel through california collectives and you will see how much each varies. I do understand that it has to do with the grower but I am talking huge differences.

Next time I travel around I will grab a few ogs and kens gdp and take pictures.
 

forestbud

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I met the creator of Bubba Kush. He personally told me directly that OG is better than Bubba Kush after I asked him which was better.

The way I gather it. OG was brought to California from Florida. Bubba Kush is probably a hermie offspring of OG Kush and Northern Lights. Someone mentioned Northern Lights here, yep. OG existed before Bubba Kush. Ghost OG can be the original clone of OG or a random S1 strain.
 

CannaBruh

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I've never seen this thoroughly debunked " • 'OG Kush' (the original cut) came from an s1 from in a bag of '91 Chemdawg in the Lake Tahoe area in 1996. " Yet episode 52 doesn't quite jive with that at all.....
 

forestbud

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I've never seen this thoroughly debunked " • 'OG Kush' (the original cut) came from an s1 from in a bag of '91 Chemdawg in the Lake Tahoe area in 1996. " Yet episode 52 doesn't quite jive with that at all.....
IMHO, that can be easily debunked with a smoke test. OG is not Chemdawg or vice versa. Chemdawg is "camouflaged color" with more hair, longer bullet shaped flowers with funky smell. OG is more bulbous, bright color, dense, cone shaped, fuel like. Both very strong in their own right but OG holds the edge for me.
 
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