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what do u like better honey oil, or bubble hash.. I've found 2 ways to may oil butain or rubbing alcohol. I've found rubbing alcohol is a lot easier an safer. but I love my bubble hash. u take ur trims or bud put in jar cover itwith rubbing alcohol shake Good 5-15 mins strain with cheese cloth 8-12 times for a cleaner oil the more u strain the better it is. then put in slow cooker on low until it all evaporates an stars to harden make a trench with wax paper shovel in with spoon. an ur good to go I put in freezer so u can.break lil chunks off ne quick cause it melts fast

Sounds to me like you need to read up on the different extraction processes

oh yea what's ur way. I been studying an testing for awhile but I'm open to me an better ways..

My bad man I didn't mean it as an insult if that's how it was taken...
You made it seem as if bubble hash was what we call an extract using iso.. but that would be qwiso.
Second. You said you did a 5-15 minute wash with iso, I'm assuming you ended up with a black or dark green blob of gunk
Third there are many more methods than that, that's what I meant by you should read up more. Around here we generally stick with basic polar/non polar extractions..iso and ethanol being the main polar solvents we use and butane or hexane generally being the non polar solvents we use. But there are many others, chloroform for example...

Solvents also aren't the only way to get the pure resin heads, I only know of french cannolies thread you can check on that, pressed hash, sieved like bubble hash or using water and ice but your agitating through a screen of specific and varying micron sizes to let the resin heads flow through

I personally do a qwiso running the "frozen" fluid through freshly cut whole frozen buds. No agitation or soaking..I filter through a coffee filter then a micron syringe...I then proceed to evaporate with a fan never letting heat or light touch my product. When dry I dissolve in hot ethanol..this process is called winterizing...we put the oil etoh solution in the freezer to stabilize and let any dissolved plant waxes and lipids to precipitate out.. its then filtered again and evaporated again without heat.... it produces a completely translucent oil that when collected looks like glass with a bit of gold hues, or it looks like a bright red ruby depending on your material and process. Both are equal and should never have any hints of green. A good qwiso should give you shatter without winterization

Well I think i might have started rambling and forgot what I was supposed to be saying

Sounds like you get some pretty clean product there quiz. I have found though for more of a medicinal purpose oil you don't want it perfectly clean, you actually can strip it too much and take a lot of the properties us patients are looking for. For edible oils, heat is one process NOT to skip, heating transforms the acids and actually concentrates the meds making it stronger more effective. Plant matter also contains trace amounts of CBD's which we all know...is what we are after. As long as you are removing the majority of your solvent a dirtier product(so to speak)actually makes a better med. For smoking...your explanation is bang on and if I could still smoke I would be giving your explanation a whirl because it sounds like some sick product

no qwiz I didn't mean.to sound like I was on the defense mode I just wanted to know what ur ways were I'm always up to a better product. srry I must have put two things in same sentence I make my bubble hash from ice an water... I make my oil from ISO I put ice cold ISO on top of my trims or bud I shake for 10 mins an slow cook on low until it all evaporates out when dne the color is a light brown. but I have had blacker stuff depending how much I strain it threw the cheese cloth.

Why thank ya... my oil is produced in a manner that retains all or most of the terpenes giving an exceptionally tasty potent oil. As its for smoking most of the time I don't decarb, and when I do I still don't use heat to break the carboxyl group. I'm not sure how it could be to clean or what your talking about. To my knowledge we are after terpenes, myrcene and pinene being two good examples of a terpene thc, cbc,cbnd, thcv ,cbg ect are also terpenes. That's all were after that I know of, all are preserved....I'm also not after cbd's at all. In fact most of the people who use my oil medicinally aren't either. Cbds are great for certain things. My "patients" so to speak are looking for the medicinal benefits provided by most of the others mainly thc....All of a sudden people talk about cbd constantly, thc is looked down on cause you get high. I'm not gonna talk more about this here but due to it being produced still by hemp it is legal and easy to obtain and study unlike thc. Cbd is not more medicinal. Nor do I focus on it..........you can never have to clean a product I'm removing plant waxes and lipids with the winterization, but both are polar meaning I am able to pick up possibly unknown plant alkaloids sect basically everything from the plant. Water is polar so I'm literally picking up anything in the plant except for plant matter waxes and lipids.......idk just my 2 cents

i agree with ganja I think the heat brings out the cbd more. not sayinig ur way dnt work cause I wana try it out though I've wonder y there oils r different colors but know making sence anyway u can give me a step by step on ur process

I got ya ur making awesome sense now.. when I said cleaning I ment after I shake my product in the ISO I filter it threw cheese cloth catching any plant mater but yet letting all the terpens threw the cloth into my jar mine is also very clean an taste full. 2 hits an.ur couch locked going night night LOL.. but I do want to try ur way I've always wanted to try that way but just never had enough nolige on it. I've only been doing the oil for about 8 months I always did bubble hash b4 I figured how to do the oil. I appreciate ur advise.

Heat won't bring out cbd, a late harvest won't bring out cbd.. cbn isn't even a direct product from thc most of delta 9 will degrade into delta 8. Studies have watched frozen oil and room temp oil over a period of 4 years watching it degrade. Cbn percentage increased at a near equal rate in both cases and not in relation to thc degradation. Suggesting metabolic processes or chemical reactions produce cbn... the different colors in oil are produced from degrading goodies. The trichs when at their most potent is clear to cloudy if you make oil from amber heads you'll have amber product I make mine from mostly cloudy some clear.

This all comes pretty natural to me. I used to make pharmaceuticals (obviously never like this)but now I'm just a pharmacist.. nevertheless I enjoy doing these processes to make oil.. its really not to complicated, I use fresh material that's been frozen like the iso until stabilized I pour through the bud for about 5 seconds, iso pretty much strips the goods on contact. The bud is sitting in a mesh strainer to let the fluid out quickly not letting the buds soak. The fluid is first passed through a coffee filter then after some drying to reduce the volume (but before saturation occurs and oil starts go flocculate ) I hit it with the micron syringe filtering out any mold spores bacteria dust ect.. I continue to evap never using heat and taking note that especially in solution cannabinoids are extremely light sensitive.. I slowly add hot ethanol until all oil is dissolved, I freeze until stable and all fats and waxes have precipitated out I filter through coffee filter and evap....pretty basic, you could also do a hexane saline wash


Edit. "heating transforms the acids and actually concentrates the meds making it stronger more effective." I'm assuming what he meant by this is thca doesnt readily cross the blood brain barrier, after its been decarboxylated ( removal of the cooh group. In refrence to cannabis we focus on removing the h2o by dehydration or heat ect) after we lose either co2 or h2o the bond is broken and we have thc.. this occurs instantly when igniting bud

gotcha. I'vegotcha. I really wanna try ur way. my terps were cloudy to amber that's y my oil is a light brown I'm thinking then.