What do you know about aliens?

Nevaeh420 · Jun 20, 2013

guy incognito said:
Hydrogen is not the answer to the fuel crisis. Water cannot be used for fuel. It is already at a lower energy state. How does it make sense to use energy to split H and O, only to combust them back into water? You are taking water, splitting it, then recombining it. How could that possibly generate energy even in a fantasy world?.

Your right, thats how it would work. But its WHERE you get your energy from that would make the difference. If the government relented and built tons of nuclear fusion power plants than that would an ideal source of power to break the water into H and O. Than if you liquify the hydrogen than use it for fuel, for whatever, than you have a clean burning fuel with no pollution. But your right, it does take more power to break the H and O down than what you get out of it, but like I said, if you used nuclear power than whats the problems?

guy incognito said:
Also, pull your head out of the sand. Aliens were clearly responsible for 911. If that's not completely obvious to you then there is no point in even trying to explain it.

I'm sorry, I've never heard of your theory before. Can you please explain how aliens were behind 911?

Heisenberg · Jun 20, 2013

[video=youtube_share;Zbl-vMN2gzo]http://youtu.be/Zbl-vMN2gzo[/video]

mindphuk · Jun 20, 2013

Nevaeh420 said:
The question should be, WHERE are they?

That's a question that has good answers if you just apply some thought. Let's assume a civilization was advanced enough to be able to travel instantaneously between star systems, maybe a wormhole. This way we can ignore the extremely long time that it would take to travel between stars even if they could do so at light speed. Let's also say that they can visit a new star every one of our earth days. It would take 2,700,000 years just to visit 1% of our galaxy! And that's assuming that our galaxy only has 100 billion stars when some estimates are as high as 3-400 billion. Unless we just happen to be in someone's galactic backyard, even if there are super advanced civilizations, and even if they could travel between stars, and even if they could travel FTL, and even if they have been exploring our galaxy for thousands or even millions of earth years, the probability that they stumbled upon our little yellow star, at exactly the time when something interesting was evolving on earth is still quite low.

People don't always consider the good timing that is necessary. If they were looking for life that could communicate with them, we have to narrow the timeline to only the last few hundred thousand years. What if they have visited earth but saw only boring, single-cell life and decided to go on exploring other stars? To think that we have been visited because of the existence of humans is almost inconceivable. The probabilities are just too low even granting the very generous, to the point of absurdity, conditions as stated above.

Nevaeh420 · Jun 20, 2013

mindphuk said:
To think that we have been visited because of the existence of humans is almost inconceivable. .

You dont have to believe Me Mindphuk, but I saw a being wearing an "invisibility suit" in late July, early August of 2012. I explained the encounter in this thread. I dont know whether it was a human or alien that I saw, but I assume its an alien because of what I experienced that day. It was super high tech, the suit that is, and people dont have that kind of technology, maybe the government has that technology but I'm not sure.

Either way, I believe I saw an alien, it was definitly out of this world. So I believe that they have visited us, from personal experience.

EDIT- I watched the being for about 2 hours, and then it got dark out so I put down the BB gun with the 4 power scope that I was watching him with. I got a real good look, but the being was translucent and a little hard to see.

~PEACE~

Padawanbater2 · Jun 20, 2013

mindphuk said:
That's a question that has good answers if you just apply some thought. Let's assume a civilization was advanced enough to be able to travel instantaneously between star systems, maybe a wormhole. This way we can ignore the extremely long time that it would take to travel between stars even if they could do so at light speed. Let's also say that they can visit a new star every one of our earth days. It would take 2,700,000 years just to visit 1% of our galaxy! And that's assuming that our galaxy only has 100 billion stars when some estimates are as high as 3-400 billion. Unless we just happen to be in someone's galactic backyard, even if there are super advanced civilizations, and even if they could travel between stars, and even if they could travel FTL, and even if they have been exploring our galaxy for thousands or even millions of earth years, the probability that they stumbled upon our little yellow star, at exactly the time when something interesting was evolving on earth is still quite low.

People don't always consider the good timing that is necessary. If they were looking for life that could communicate with them, we have to narrow the timeline to only the last few hundred thousand years. What if they have visited earth but saw only boring, single-cell life and decided to go on exploring other stars? To think that we have been visited because of the existence of humans is almost inconceivable. The probabilities are just too low even granting the very generous, to the point of absurdity, conditions as stated above.

This is the way a scientist thinks

Great post

Padawanbater2 · Jun 20, 2013

Nevaeh420 said:
You dont have to believe Me Mindphuk, but I saw a being wearing an "invisibility suit" in late July, early August of 2012. I explained the encounter in this thread. I dont know whether it was a human or alien that I saw, but I assume its an alien because of what I experienced that day. It was super high tech, the suit that is, and people dont have that kind of technology, maybe the government has that technology but I'm not sure.

Either way, I believe I saw an alien, it was definitly out of this world. So I believe that they have visited us, from personal experience.

EDIT- I watched the being for about 2 hours, and then it got dark out so I put down the BB gun with the 4 power scope that I was watching him with. I got a real good look, but the being was translucent and a little hard to see.

~PEACE~

What you need to understand though is that it's infinitely more plausible what you saw was either a mistake in interpretation by your senses, or something completely natural without the explanation. Both would be extremely common. MP's post illustrates how improbable what you claim happened actually happened. It's literally more probable that a shark walked out of the ocean somehow, into CIA headquarters without any ID, past all the guards, into the secret room housing the invisibility cloak from the movie Predator that's actually real, put it on, walked out, then went to your house at the exact time you were home to fuck with you than aliens. Now would you believe some shit like that even if you saw it?

Chief Walkin Eagle · Jun 20, 2013

Lol... Weather balloons...

Nevaeh420 · Jun 20, 2013

Padawanbater2 said:
What you need to understand though is that it's infinitely more plausible what you saw was either a mistake in interpretation by your senses, or something completely natural without the explanation. Both would be extremely common. MP's post illustrates how improbable what you claim happened actually happened. It's literally more probable that a shark walked out of the ocean somehow, into CIA headquarters without any ID, past all the guards, into the secret room housing the invisibility cloak from the movie Predator that's actually real, put it on, walked out, then went to your house at the exact time you were home to fuck with you than aliens. Now would you believe some shit like that even if you saw it?

I'm not saying you guys shouldnt be skeptical. But what if I am telling the truth?

What I am saying is that I had a personal experience with a being wearing an invisibility suit on top of My neighbors roof in about August of 2012. It sounds like a fairy tale but I'm telling the honest to God truth. The only evidence I have is My Word, and I give you all My Word. I dont know if I would believe Me either if I was reading about someone that had an encounter with an alien wearing an invisibility suit. First of all, what are the chances of someone having a REAL alien encounter? Very slim. And than the alien was wearing an invisibility suit? What? But thats My truth and I would bet My life on it that it that I saw some being wearing an invisibility suit on My neighbors roof. I would gladly take a lie detector test to vindicate Myself. I'm going to remain confident in what I saw because I cant deny how vivid it was and how real it was. Maybe I'm headstrong or maybe I'm just going to remain true to Myself in what the FACTS are. And yes, its a FACT to Me because I wasnt on drugs, I wasnt tired, I wasnt hallucinating and I wasnt dreaming. I was sober and awake and I watched the being for about 2 hours or so. I remember it very vividly. I would bet My life on it.

You guys dont have to believe Me, I dont care. I know what I saw and thats what matters. I dont have to prove it to anyone because I know.

Remain skeptical, I still am. I dont know if I saw a human wearing an invisibility suit or an alien.

And who were flying the UFOs that I saw about a month prior? I dont know. All I know is that I saw about 8 blueish, greenish, purple lights in the sky.

So I cant conclude if it was aliens or humans but I can conclude that I saw about 8 UFOs and a being wearing an invisibility suit about a month after I saw the UFOs. I saw it with My own two eyes and no one can tell Me otherwise.

EDIT- Do you all think that ALL of the UFO reports are man made objects? What if just 1% of the sightings were real UFOs? Whos in the REAL UFOs? Aliens, right? That would still mean that they are indeed visiting the planet. I just so happened to see one of them out of their space ship. AND they have invisibility technology. But thats Me assuming that the being I saw was an alien.

~PEACE~

Padawanbater2 · Jun 20, 2013

Nevaeh420 said:
I'm not saying you guys shouldnt be skeptical. But what if I am telling the truth?

What I am saying is that I think I had a personal experience with a being wearing an invisibility suit on top of My neighbors roof in about August of 2012. It sounds like a fairy tale but as far as I know, I'm telling the honest to God truth. The only evidence I have is My Word, and I give you all My Word. I dont know if I would believe Me either if I was reading about someone that had an encounter with an alien wearing an invisibility suit. First of all, what are the chances of someone having a REAL alien encounter? Very slim. And than the alien was wearing an invisibility suit? What? But thats My truth and I would bet My life on it that it that I saw some being wearing an invisibility suit on My neighbors roof. I would gladly take a lie detector test to vindicate Myself. I'm going to remain confident in what I saw because I cant deny how vivid it was and how real it was. Maybe I'm headstrong or maybe I'm just going to remain true to Myself in what the FACTS are. And yes, its a FACT to Me because I wasnt on drugs, I wasnt tired, I wasnt hallucinating and I wasnt dreaming. I was sober and awake and I watched the being for about 2 hours or so. I remember it very vividly. I would bet My life on it.

You guys dont have to believe Me, I dont care. I know what I saw and thats what matters. I dont have to prove it to anyone because I know.

Remain skeptical, I still am. I dont know if I saw a human wearing an invisibility suit or an alien.

And who were flying the UFOs that I saw about a month prior? I dont know. All I know is that I saw about 8 blueish, greenish, purple lights in the sky.

So I cant conclude if it was aliens or humans but I can conclude that I saw about 8 UFOs and a being wearing an invisibility suit about a month after I saw the UFOs. I saw it with My own two eyes and no one can tell Me otherwise.

EDIT- Do you all think that ALL of the UFO reports are man made objects? What if just 1% were real UFOs? Whos in the REAL UFOs? Aliens, right? That would still mean that they are indeed visiting the planet. I just so happened to see one of them out of their space ship.

~PEACE~

Why are you so quick to believe your senses, specifically your sense of sight in this case, when it has been demonstrated to you that your senses can easily be manipulated without you ever knowing anything was going on? Also, why are you so hostile to the idea that this could be happening and why can't you just admit "I don't know what I saw"? Nobody is calling you a liar, we are saying you are simply interpreting the data that you are being given wrong because you lack the filter necessary to weed out what's science and what's not.

Why didn't you take a single picture of what you saw in the entire 2 hours you were watching it?

100% of all UFO sightings are Unidentified Flying Objects, that doesn't mean they have to be aliens. Furthermore, what kind of an argument is that? You're basically saying that since there are so many reported sightings, at least some of them have to be real. Total appeal to numbers. Using that same logic, since there are so many humans, at least some of them have to have super powers. That's the reason those rules need to be followed, otherwise anyone could make any claim and use that faulty logic to support it incorrectly.

Nevaeh420 · Jun 20, 2013

Padawanbater2 said:
Why are you so quick to believe your senses, specifically your sense of sight in this case, when it has been demonstrated to you that your senses can easily be manipulated without you ever knowing anything was going on? Also, why are you so hostile to the idea that this could be happening and why can't you just admit "I don't know what I saw"? Nobody is calling you a liar, we are saying you are simply interpreting the data that you are being given wrong because you lack the filter necessary to weed out what's science and what's not.

Why didn't you take a single picture of what you saw in the entire 2 hours you were watching it?

100% of all UFO sightings are Unidentified Flying Objects, that doesn't mean they have to be aliens. Furthermore, what kind of an argument is that? You're basically saying that since there are so many reported sightings, at least some of them have to be real. Total appeal to numbers. Using that same logic, since there are so many humans, at least some of them have to have super powers. That's the reason those rules need to be followed, otherwise anyone could make any claim and use that faulty logic to support it incorrectly.

Why would I make a youtube video?

You can try but you cant REALLY debunk a FACT, can you?

[youtube]6TfiwedpZUU[/youtube]

In the video, does it seem like My senses tricked Me? At first I showed you the "faces" that it made that I could draw. It wasnt his real face but it was "faces" none the lesss. Thats just what I could draw. When I saw the body, it seemed to be humanoid, I saw a face and arms, but I think he was laying down the whole time so I didnt really see the legs. And when I saw the body, it was translucent too. It was as though it had been painted with an invisibility paint.

I didnt take any pictures of it because My camea on My phone wouldnt have been able to catch the picture. Its a cheap phone and I never really use the camera anyways so I wasnt thinking, but it wouldnt have been able to capture a worthy picture anyways without zoom. And I still dont have a video camera but that would have been ideal, especially if it had a good zoom.

All I can do, at this point, is describe to you all what I saw. I dont have emperical evidence to prove My point. I just know that I saw about 8 UFOs on July 2 of 2012 and about a month later I saw a being wearing the coolest invisibility suit on My neighbors roof. I dont act like I have all the answers because I dont. But I know that I know that I know that I had an encounter with a being wearing an invisibility suit and he was on My neighbors roof about 15 yards away from where I was with a 4 power scope. I didnt time how long I saw him for, but it was over an hour or so. I dont know if the being was a human or alien but I can only assume it was an alien that might have come off of a UFO that I saw about a month earlier. But I'll never be able to conclusively prove if it was an alien or human. But I assume that it was an alien.

It was the wildest thing I ever saw in My whole life. I think about it every day and I wonder WHY?

But I, for one, am sure that if the UFOs I saw were alien space ships and the being I saw was an alien than THEY VISIT!

EDIT- And I bet the reason why he was wearing the invisibility suit was because the house where I live is in the city. Lots of people walk around and drive by. The being was right on top of a roof and people would have been able to see him if he was NOT wearing the invisibility suit. I'm sure they like to go undetected because if it was an alien than whos to say that if he got caught he wouldnt have been captured and sent to a government facility? I honestly dont know but I can speculate.

~PEACE~

tyler.durden · Jun 20, 2013

^^ Neveah, there's a point that you seem to be missing: anyone who believes they are Christ come again, and attempts to prove it, is clearly (in any skeptical person's mind) mentally challenged. Any extraordinary claim made after that is easily dismissed. Seeing this alien would be impossible to get others to believe if you were in your right mind, which you obviously are not. Not trolling, just stating it how I see it...

guy incognito · Jun 20, 2013

Nevaeh420 said:
Why would I make a youtube video?

He is right, I NEVER see retard assholes on youtube.

Nevaeh420 · Jun 20, 2013

tyler.durden said:
^^ Neveah, there's a point that you seem to be missing: anyone who believes they are Christ come again, and attempts to prove it, is clearly (in any skeptical person's mind) mentally challenged. Any extraordinary claim made after that is easily dismissed. Seeing this alien would be impossible to get others to believe if you were in your right mind, which you obviously are not. Not trolling, just stating it how I see it...

The facts are the facts. Its not a fact that I am Christ per se because how do you prove that? But its a fact that I saw a being wearing an invisibility suit on My neighbors roof. You can be ignorant of facts but a fact is still a fact.

Believe what you want but I'm still going to say what I believe is true.

guy incognito said:
He is right, I NEVER see retard assholes on youtube.

O, and I guess I'm one of them?

~PEACE~

Padawanbater2 · Jun 20, 2013

Nevaeh420 said:
Why would I make a youtube video?

You can try but you cant REALLY debunk a FACT, can you?

[youtube]6TfiwedpZUU[/youtube]

In the video, does it seem like My senses tricked Me? At first I showed you the "faces" that it made that I could draw. It wasnt his real face but it was "faces" none the lesss. Thats just what I could draw. When I saw the body, it seemed to be humanoid, I saw a face and arms, but I think he was laying down the whole time so I didnt really see the legs. And when I saw the body, it was translucent too. It was as though it had been painted with an invisibility paint.

I didnt take any pictures of it because My camea on My phone wouldnt have been able to catch the picture. Its a cheap phone and I never really use the camera anyways so I wasnt thinking, but it wouldnt have been able to capture a worthy picture anyways without zoom. And I still dont have a video camera but that would have been ideal, especially if it had a good zoom.

All I can do, at this point, is describe to you all what I saw. I dont have emperical evidence to prove My point. I just know that I saw about 8 UFOs on July 2 of 2012 and about a month later I saw a being wearing the coolest invisibility suit on My neighbors roof. I dont act like I have all the answers because I dont. But I know that I know that I know that I had an encounter with a being wearing an invisibility suit and he was on My neighbors roof about 15 yards away from where I was with a 4 power scope. I didnt time how long I saw him for, but it was over an hour or so. I dont know if the being was a human or alien but I can only assume it was an alien that might have come off of a UFO that I saw about a month earlier. But I'll never be able to conclusively prove if it was an alien or human. But I assume that it was an alien.

It was the wildest thing I ever saw in My whole life. I think about it every day and I wonder WHY?

But I, for one, am sure that if the UFOs I saw were alien space ships and the being I saw was an alien than THEY VISIT!

EDIT- And I bet the reason why he was wearing the invisibility suit was because the house where I live is in the city. Lots of people walk around and drive by. The being was right on top of a roof and people would have been able to see him if he was NOT wearing the invisibility suit. I'm sure they like to go undetected because if it was an alien than whos to say that if he got caught he wouldnt have been captured and sent to a government facility? I honestly dont know but I can speculate.

~PEACE~

Watch this...

How do you know?

Think hard

Nevaeh420 · Jun 20, 2013

Padawanbater2 said:
Watch this...

How do you know?

Think hard

How do I not know?

But if I have decieved any of you in any way than kill Me now.

EDIT- I know because it really happened. What do I have to gain from lying to you all? NOTHING! And what do I have to gain from telling the truth? NOTHING! I just want to tell My honest to God story!

~PEACE~

Padawanbater2 · Jun 20, 2013

Nevaeh420 said:
The facts are the facts. Its not a fact that I am Christ per se because how do you prove that? But its a fact that I saw a being wearing an invisibility suit on My neighbors roof. You can be ignorant of facts but a fact is still a fact.

Believe what you want but I'm still going to say what I believe is true.

O, and I guess I'm one of them?

~PEACE~

You are confused about what a 'fact' is

From dictionary.com;

1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact.

2. something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact.

3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth.

4. something said to be true or supposed to have happened: The facts given by the witness are highly questionable.

5. Law. . Often, facts. an actual or alleged event or circumstance, as distinguished from its legal effect or consequence. Compare question of fact, question of law.

What you have is not a fact, but a belief. You believe you saw something, your beliefs are subject to human error, which is, obviously to everyone but you, what is going on. You simply refuse to accept it for what it is in favor of something more appealing to you, which are delusions of grandeur.

If you took a thorough look at Christianity, and indeed, all organized religions created by mankind, I'm talking history, philosophy, theology, IN DEPTH, you would come to the same conclusions as the rest of us, as one of the largest growing demographics on the planet, nonbelievers. Organized religion is made up bullshit designed to keep you under control. You are perpetuating its existence by living your life in ignorance.

Consider this..

If you were God, and Christianity were true, what would be more admirable to you; your creations choosing to be good and do the right thing on their own, devoid of divine influence, or subjects who do good out of the fear of eternal punishment who can justifiably be described as slaves - subjugation through the threat of force?

Read, read more. When you're done reading, go read another book. This bullshit you pull with your youtube videos is useless, trust me when I say this, all you are doing if you have any bit of self respect left in you, is publishing material that will be used against you in the future and shit you will look back on and wonder how you could have ever been so naive.

Use the internet, you have it at your fingertips, again, using your logic, could all the scientists be wrong?

Padawanbater2 · Jun 20, 2013

Nevaeh420 said:
How do I not know?

But if I have decieved any of you in any way than kill Me now.

EDIT- I know because it really happened. What do I have to gain from lying to you all? NOTHING! And what do I have to gain from telling the truth? NOTHING! I just want to tell My honest to God story!

~PEACE~

*ThEn, not thAn. "Then" denotes differences between verbs, "Than" denotes differences between nouns. I've seen you consistently make this mistake for a month now

"I know because it really happened"... do you really think that's a viable response?

"How do you know we took samples of the Suns surface?"

"I know because it really happened"

"How do you know true Muslims will get 72 virgins when they kill infidels?"

"I know because it really happened"

...

Clearly you don't have any kind of basic understanding of science or how we figure shit out and add it to the book of human knowledge..

"because it really happened" is just as good as saying "because I saw it, and my cousin Greg and his girlfriend were there, and they saw it too!"..

In science, what you saw amounts to exactly this;

Chief Walkin Eagle · Jun 20, 2013

Padawanbater2 said:
*ThEn, not thAn. "Then" denotes differences between verbs, "Than" denotes differences between nouns. I've seen you consistently make this mistake for a month now

"I know because it really happened"... do you really think that's a viable response?

"How do you know we took samples of the Suns surface?"

"I know because it really happened"

"How do you know true Muslims will get 72 virgins when they kill infidels?"

"I know because it really happened"

...

Clearly you don't have any kind of basic understanding of science or how we figure shit out and add it to the book of human knowledge..

"because it really happened" is just as good as saying "because I saw it, and my cousin Greg and his girlfriend were there, and they saw it too!"..

In science, what you saw amounts to exactly this;

Its funny, its almost like you think science is the only way to find the truth lol

Nevaeh420 · Jun 20, 2013

Padawanbater2 said:
You are confused about what a 'fact' is

From dictionary.com;

1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact.

2. something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact.

3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth.

4. something said to be true or supposed to have happened: The facts given by the witness are highly questionable.

5. Law. . Often, facts. an actual or alleged event or circumstance, as distinguished from its legal effect or consequence. Compare question of fact, question of law.

What you have is not a fact, but a belief. You believe you saw something, your beliefs are subject to human error, which is, obviously to everyone but you, what is going on. You simply refuse to accept it for what it is in favor of something more appealing to you, which are delusions of grandeur.

Is it a fact that your looking at your computer screen RIGHT NOW? Ok, well thats how much of a FACT it was that I saw a being wearing, what I call, an "invisibility suit" on top of My neighbors roof in 2012.

I dont believe I saw a being, I KNOW I saw a being.

I'm not trying to "refuse to accept it for what it is in favor of something more appealing to Me", I'm simply being honest to you all about what I literally saw.

Padawanbater2 said:
If

Padawanbater2 said:
you took a thorough look at Christianity, and indeed, all organized religions created by mankind, I'm talking history, philosophy, theology, IN DEPTH, you would come to the same conclusions as the rest of us, as one of the largest growing demographics on the planet, nonbelievers. Organized religion is made up bullshit designed to keep you under control. You are perpetuating its existence by living your life in ignorance.

I agree here, but I'm not "perpetuating its existence by living My life in ignorance". I dont personally agree with religion. Like you said, its man made and not "the word of God". I do believe the Bible might have some truth in it but its not all true.

I'm not religious at all Pada. I have My own beliefs.

Padawanbater2 said:
Co

Padawanbater2 said:
nsider this..

If you were God, and Christianity were true, what would be more admirable to you; your creations choosing to be good and do the right thing on their own, devoid of divine influence, or subjects who do good out of the fear of eternal punishment who can justifiably be described as slaves - subjugation through the threat of force?

I'm not God and I'm not claiming to be God. My personal beliefs is that I am the Son of God, more of a Prophet than anything.

Also, I dont believe Christianity is true, not all of it anyways. There has to be some truth to it though.

"what would be more admirable to you; your creations choosing to be good and do the right thing on their own, devoid of divine influence, or subjects who do good out of the fear of eternal punishment who can justifiably be described as slaves - subjugation through the threat of force?"

I would rather see people be good on their own devoid of divine power than to make them slaves. But who wouldnt? I'm not a dictator.

Padawanbater2 said:
Re

Padawanbater2 said:
ad, read more. When you're done reading, go read another book. This bullshit you pull with your youtube videos is useless, trust me when I say this, all you are doing if you have any bit of self respect left in you, is publishing material that will be used against you in the future and shit you will look back on and wonder how you could have ever been so naive.

Say what you want, I dont care.

Padawanbater2 said:
Us

Padawanbater2 said:
e the internet, you have it at your fingertips, again, using your logic, could all the scientists be wrong?

Whos saying all the scientists are wrong?

I'm just saying that I am telling the truth!

~PEACE~

Nevaeh420 · Jun 20, 2013

Sometimes you just cant prove facts, they just are.

This is obviously the case here!

EDIT- What, should I lie and say I didnt see what I saw? I dont need to prove anything, I just like to tell the story about what actually happened. I just dont have any proof, so sue Me.

~PEACE~

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