What are your guidelines to determine whether your medicine is organic or not? I have been reading into lately and find some conflicting ideas. The toughest critics say indoor growing can not be organic due to the artificial light source. Some say in order to be organic your growing medium needs to be a natural compost with living bacteria and other naturally occurring sources such as manure, bat guano, sea kelp, fish, etc. Can medicine be considered organic if grown in something like Boatnicares Aeration using nutrients that are naturally based instead of salt based? While I'm asking a question that may sound extremely basic to most, I figure I'll throw in another. What's the difference between fertilizer and nutrients? My assumption is that fertilizer is mixed with the growing medium while nutrients are mixed with water and fed to the plants.
What does Organic Mean to you?
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scroglodyte
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organic = outside, no synthetics, in an approved contained, such as untreated wood.
scroglodyte
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i call it "organic," but its technically not. i.....my cousin Alfredo, i mean........ even works mostly with daylight Kelvins, and waters with rain water.
Snafu1236
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Organic is a subjective term. There is no right or wrong answer. I consider myself organic, but the artificial light source and rock dust I use doesn't make it "organic".
However, my belief is that I am organic, because organic growing is this, for me:
Growing without the use of synthetically made or chemically processed nutrients/amendments in a rich, biodiverse soil with a focus on beneficial microherd population growth. In other words, if it doesn't come from the Earth, I don't use it (with the exception of the light I use).
Snafu, thanks for your input. I'm having trouble finding base Organic Nutrients. The one I know and have used is Botanicare pro Grow and Bloom, but I am having trouble finding others. Advanced Nutrients for example, clearly label their supplements as organic if they are, but I have yet to find clearly labeled organic base nutrients by Advanced. Mind sharing with me what you use or perhaps a list of some popular Organic Nutrients?
dante76
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using organic based nutrients (bottled nutes; organic grow and bloom) is one way or method of being organic but a more complete/holistic organic grow doesn't use these because there are ample enough useable nutrients in the soil (subcools super soil using natural/mined ingredients). Using vermiteas/wormteas/compost teas help aid this with beneficial bacteria and fungi.
if you not going to go to this extent and prepare your own supersoil, i guess you'd have to go with those "organic nutes" to push the plant to its potential.
I think of inorganic/synthetic ferts like steroids.
if you not going to go to this extent and prepare your own supersoil, i guess you'd have to go with those "organic nutes" to push the plant to its potential.
I think of inorganic/synthetic ferts like steroids.
Cronik363
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last grow i did was full botanicare from the coco to the nutes i used pro grow and bloom with all theyre supplements but i didnt enjoy the reservoir changes and the phing and ppm which is good to do to some point but its nice to just water my plants and keep it simple by way of just going organic instead of bottled organic or whatever . ive done just soil , hydro , coco now im gonna try something new +subcool . just mixed it up last week cant wait to see how this kosher is gonna turn out with this wonderful earthy mix of goodness .
p.s. missing the azomite till tommorow ; )
p.s. missing the azomite till tommorow ; )
scroglodyte
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i make my own nutes. its enjoyable......a side-hobby. worms are the key, and they are easy to keep.
jammin screw
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i think no matter what light you use it is what you put in.... to me theres 2 types of growing no matter hydro or dirt: organic and what i call other(inorganic, chem, w/e). and theres 2 types of organic growing environment: outdoor organic, and indoor organic....... you should know the difference, but you are putting organic in the plants.... light is light...... seems to me whatever would be in the light stays in the bulb....... cause once its broken it goes out.......... hhhmmmmmmm
scroglodyte
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i use the "tarp burrito" style of mixing
jammin screw
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im hungry n you jus had to say burrito.... i could go for a chicken fajita with pico de gayo n cheese not to mention rice n lil bit of beans...... maaan
Thedillestpickle
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IMO any method is going to be clean enough for anyone short of a complete health food psychopath... there is one thing that should be avoided and thats chemical pesticides, chemical herbicides and chemical fungicides... everything else is fine
scroglodyte
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an a nice big piece of tres leches cake
Snafu1236
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Big dog -
If you follow the link in my signature, or check for all started threads by me, I am sure you can figure out what I use. Do some homework/research, man.
But, I don't really get into super specifics on how to amend my soil concentrates.....so,
Google: Subcool Super Soil
My recipe is similar to the one that breeder employs....and there is alot more information on his recipe than mine on the internet.
Senseimilla
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I think if you say something is not organic because it was growing indoors under a light instead of the sun, you've gone a bit off the deep end, but that's just my opinion 
For me organic means the same as listed above, grown with organic (at least natural and not synthetic) ingredients in a naturally occuring medium that promotes a living biosphere in the root system. I call my grows organic, but I do grow in plastic pots and under a light. Then again I'm not selling my stuff at dispensaries as 100% organic either Shit my favorite flower pot for indoors is a used 28lb square cat littler container with drain holes drilled in the bottom
For me organic means the same as listed above, grown with organic (at least natural and not synthetic) ingredients in a naturally occuring medium that promotes a living biosphere in the root system. I call my grows organic, but I do grow in plastic pots and under a light. Then again I'm not selling my stuff at dispensaries as 100% organic either Shit my favorite flower pot for indoors is a used 28lb square cat littler container with drain holes drilled in the bottom Thanks for all the help guys. Anything on that fertilizer question though. Hah. It may sound stupid, but without apprenticing someone who else am I gonna ask? What's the difference between fertilizer and nutrients? As I previously said, I assume fertilizers are beneficial ingredients added directly to the growing medium and nutrients are what you add to the reservoir and or feed with.
Snafu1236
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Fertilizer is a synonym for nutrients.
In the well-developed agricultural industry, fertilizer is the word of choice for plant nutrients.
In the somewhat undeveloped world of cannabis horticulture, nutrients is the word of choice for plant fertilizers.
They mean the same thing. I hope this provides some clarification!
Not using synthetic fertilizer(inorganic). That's it. People can debate all they want as to being more organic than someone else. Because grower 1 uses a supersoil which he mixed with organic materials he bought or found in their "raw" stage, and grower two uses the EarthJuice lineup as I do, which is processed but not synthesized, grower one may claim they are more organic than grower two, but in theory they are wrong. Organic just means non-synthesized in definition, from a once-living organism that is capable of decay. But to individuals it could mean may different things. Opinion wars.