What happened to my clone? Did I kill her?

zags

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Hello all,

Definitely a newbie here. I've never grown much of anything before btw. However, I have done quite a few hours of research up to lastnite. I thought I was ready to transplant this baby into soil, but I'm afraid I may have got over zealous.

Here's the background story: Basically, I came into a 4' plant that was just 2-3 weeks into flowering; it's either Master Kush or Bubble Kush. Because I didn't have any seeds, I wanted to take some clippings as soon as possible to start cloning before it got further in the flowering cycle. This was about 2 1/2 weeks ago. I took three clippings and did the clone into cup of water method. They all did well in the water but I didn't start spraying them with a root cutter/clone vitamin nute until about 5 days ago. That's when I really noticed the roots starting develop on all of them.

And last nite I decided to transplant my hardiest clone that had the tap root of about an inch long.

You can see the in pics how in just a short ~16 hours my clone looks like it's on its last leg.

Pic #1. Picture just after transplanting into a potting soil (the soil appeared to not be as quite 'aerated' as what is prolly wanted, but I did not compact it down nor pre-saturate the soil, except for a couple of sprays of the clone nute on the top of the soil and on the leaves after planting). I should also note that the clone had a nice little flower still alive on top, so I decided to cute those off as well...maybe too much too soon for the plant?

Edit: Sorry I cant seem to upload more than one pic at a time without my browser timing out or the forum program accepting it....using Firefox, will try Explorer for other pics.
 

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zags

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Pic #2 & 3. These pics were taken just a little while ago. I decided to see what was going on with the roots, and to my surprise the primary tap root is longer and now there is a second tap root that is nearly as long as the first one. That was a surprise to me.

#4-5 These are pics of my other clones. Notice the flowering on them.

#6 Picture of the root development. The clone I transplanting was about an 1/8th to 1/4 inch longer than that.
 

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zags

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Bump....anyone?

From what I could research the flower looks as almost as if it was dehydrated with the droopy leaves.

The fan leaves actually look worse now, more discoloring and more compression of themselves.

But oddly the other tiny little leaves, stem etc...look great. I wonder if I can still save her.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
 

skate2him

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i think that the roots are supposed to be bigger than that before you plant them. i believe that may be youre problem. if there are no roots, the plant has no way of obtaining nutrients from the soil and distributing them throughout the plant.
 

zags

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Thanks User, I've jerry rigged a humidity dome and will take your advice on the leaves.

And Skate, I guess now comparing not only the length but as well as the # of roots, I should've waited.

Should I try to to put the roots back into water to help with growth?

Thanks.
 

pablo_escobar

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It probably won't live, but it could. I used that cloning method, and put mine in soil when there were about 8 big roots coming off of it. I should have waited because it took about 5 days for them to come around. You definitely should have waited.

Spray some water on the leaves twice a day. Make sure the sprayer is clean, and the water is distilled. If the leaves yellow really bad, get another sprayer and put molasses in with the water. About a teaspoon. Spray it with that solution every other day. Watch for bugs. Make SURE you keep the soil relatively dry on top, and about 1 inch of moist soil on the bottom. Easiest way to do this is the put a hole in the bottom of the cup, and set it in about an inch of water for a few minutes. If it comes around, the roots will shoot down looking for water. I put about a half inch of pea gravel in the bottom on the cup. That way when you cut the bottom out to transplant, you don't cut any roots.

Also, you should have taken the clones before you flowered. It will be hard to veg again after 3 weeks flowering. Vegging now will just stress an already stressed plant, delaying growth. If you plan on making it your mother, be prepared to wait a few weeks and baby the shit out of it.
 

zags

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Cool, I'll try that...yeah it was kind of a by chance I came into an already flowering plant. I knew I needed to clone before I did, but had no choice if I wanted to keep this strain going. Plus one of the cuttings was actually a break of a node when we were moving it.

I've still got two clones alive and well in the water cups. Hopefully I can get one of those into a mother. Cross my fingers, If the seeds arrive (from Nirvana) I ordered some Indica strains and well try those. This plant is some type of sativa strain, not really sure what it is tho.


One question I wonder though, is should I cut off the flowers on these two existing clones prior/during/after transplanting? Or just leave it alone?
 

zags

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Well my last ditch effort last nite was to find some kitchen/household items that I could make some type of humidity dome, and the plants have been in there for a tad over 16 hours...what a difference that has made! They may actually make it now. While they are not completely perky as they prolly should be, they look tremendously better.



I've included some pics.

On the larger/bushier clone...should I trim the flowers off? Or leave it alone for now until I think it's made a fully recovery?

Peace.
 

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JonnyBlunt88

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Its so funny seeing a big ol bud on top of a clone. I too am about to clone and I am one week into flowering. No buds for me yet, but if they were to appear, I sure as hell would not clone them. Anyway, I am curious to see if you can convert it back to veg. if it makes it. keep us posted.
 

Werry420

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looks pretty gone to me.....if you are using jiffy pucks to clone i usually wait till the roots are exposing out of the jiffy puck then transplant
 
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