What has Trump done to this country?

hanimmal said:

Really, they were not almost exclusively white men in charge of the Democratic party prior to 2000's?

Just because I don't have the correct terminology (because I am not from there and have not looked into Georgia politics, ever), and didn't just jump to the bunch of 'fucking racists running things for all time' in Georgia language, and that they realized they needed to consolidate back into the Republican party in the new millennium, doesn't mean that it is that really that hard for someone to understand what I was saying.

You've been kind of a dick lately, you doing ok man?

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Here, repost this since the snowflake has me on ignore, he can't stand to be wrong, hurls insults with almost every argument and is a snowflake, remind you of anybody?
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How Republicans and the 'Southern Strategy' Won Over the Once Democratic South - HISTORY

How the ‘Party of Lincoln’ Won Over the Once Democratic South
Democratic defectors, known as the “Dixiecrats,” started a switch to the Republican party in a movement that was later fueled by a so-called "Southern strategy."

The night that Democratic President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, his special assistant Bill Moyers was surprised to find the president looking melancholy in his bedroom. Moyers later wrote that when he asked what was wrong, Johnson replied, “I think we just delivered the South to the Republican party for a long time to come.”

It may seem a crude remark to make after such a momentous occasion, but it was also an accurate prediction.

To understand some of the reasons the South went from a largely Democratic region to a primarily Republican area today, just follow the decades of debate over racial issues in the United States.

The Republican party was originally founded in the mid-1800s to oppose immigration and the spread of slavery, says David Goldfield, whose new book on American politics, The Gifted Generation: When Government Was Good, comes out in November.

“The Republican party was strictly a sectional party, meaning that it just did not exist in the South,” he says. “The South couldn’t care less about immigration.” But it did care about preserving slavery.

After the Civil War, the Democratic party’s opposition to Republican Reconstruction legislation solidified its hold on the South.

“The Democratic party came to be more than a political party in the South—it came to be a defender of a way of life,” Goldfield says. “And that way of life was the restoration as much as possible of white supremacy … The Confederate statues you see all around were primarily erected by Democrats.”

Up until the post-World War II period, the party’s hold on the region was so entrenched that Southern politicians usually couldn’t get elected unless they were Democrats. But when President Harry S. Truman, a Democratic Southerner, introduced a pro-civil rights platform at the party’s 1948 convention, a faction walked out.

These defectors, known as the “Dixiecrats,” held a separate convention in Birmingham, Alabama. There, they nominated South Carolina Governor Strom Thurmond, a staunch opposer of civil rights, to run for president on their “States’ Rights” ticket. Although Thurmond lost the election to Truman, he still won over a million popular votes.

It “was the first time since before the Civil War that the South was not solidly Democratic,” Goldfield says. “And that began the erosion of the southern influence in the Democratic party.”

After that, the majority of the South still continued to vote Democratic because it thought of the Republican party as the party of Abraham Lincoln and Reconstruction. The big break didn’t come until President Johnson, another Southern Democrat, signed the Civil Rights Act in 1964 and the Voting Rights Act in 1965.
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hanimmal said:

Doesn't mean that if it is what you say, that the Democrats started the purging of registered people, that it was not done as a way to keep power in the Republicans hands after the more racist elements of the then Democratic party lost power.

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You're a very, very, very special kind of stupid, aren't you?

It was done IN THE MID 90's, NOT NEARLY A CENTURY AGO to try to get rid of republican voters because republican voters were very well known for not being the sharpest knife in the drawer. Democrats figured that by implementing the "use it or lose it" voting rights act, that they would quietly be able to purge tons of republicans from the voter rolls and maintain power.

It didn't work.

The bullshit you're talking about took place 70 years ago and has absolutely ZERO bearing on it.

But why am I not surprised? You stated clearly that you have no idea what you're talking about, have never researched anything and are just talking out of your ass making it up as you go along.

Edit to add: The republicans are now using the exact same act for the exact same thing. Guess what? It didn't work for them either.

Dixiecrat has become a generic term used for both voters and politicians in the south who switched party affiliations from democrat to republican because of racism. It is a multigenerational process that has accelerated in recent years. Obama's election and finally Trump's completed the purge in each party and today it is complete polarization. Back a few decades ago a lot of people voted like their daddy and there was more political inertia, change took longer, communications technology changed that. Over time many words are recontextualized and Dixiecrat was one of them, it represented an opposition to military integration in 1948 and the civil rights act was another milestone, so was Nixon's southern strategy.

Dixiecrats were alive and well into the late 70s and 80s when they switched parties and became asshole Republicans. Still assholes, just changed party.

hillbill said:

Dixiecrats were alive and well into the late 70s and 80s when they switched parties and became asshole Republicans.

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Name one Georgia democrat that became a republican in the 70's or 80's.

Next, you'll be telling me Jimmy Carter is a racist republican.

DIY-HP-LED said:

Here, repost this since the snowflake has me on ignore, he can't stand to be wrong, hurls insults with almost every argument and is a snowflake, remind you of anybody?
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How Republicans and the 'Southern Strategy' Won Over the Once Democratic South - HISTORY

How the ‘Party of Lincoln’ Won Over the Once Democratic South
Democratic defectors, known as the “Dixiecrats,” started a switch to the Republican party in a movement that was later fueled by a so-called "Southern strategy."
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Thank you for the link. It is helpful.
https://www.history.com/news/how-the-party-of-lincoln-won-over-the-once-democratic-south

TacoMac said:

You're a very, very, very special kind of stupid, aren't you?

It was done IN THE MID 90's, NOT NEARLY A CENTURY AGO to try to get rid of republican voters because republican voters were very well known for not being the sharpest knife in the drawer. Democrats figured that by implementing the "use it or lose it" voting rights act, that they would quietly be able to purge tons of republicans from the voter rolls and maintain power.

It didn't work.

The bullshit you're talking about took place 70 years ago and has absolutely ZERO bearing on it.

But why am I not surprised? You stated clearly that you have no idea what you're talking about, have never researched anything and are just talking out of your ass making it up as you go along.

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You read that in what I said? I think you should reread it, because I didn't say that it happened nearly a century ago.

You are wrong in your thinking that the Southern Strategy was a one time thing that stopped, it was a long term game plan.

Whatever is going on with you man, I hope you work it out.

I have a lot of respect for your understanding of history and the law.
https://allongeorgia.com/georgia-state-politics/voter-roll-purging-it-was-a-democrat-backed-initiative-from-2-decades-ago/

The General Election from November 6th is officially over, but concerns over voter roll purging and claims of wrongful disposition from the rolls due to politics remain at the top of the list of pundit talking points.

So is it true? What does the law say? How much discretion does the Secretary of State’s Office have? Who was behind the initiative to amend the voter roll laws in the first place?

The removal of voters from the voter rolls is not a policy initiative of the Secretary of State’s office, but a state law codified in the official Georgia code.

The law dates back decades but was last amended by House Bill 889 in 1997, a time when Democrats were in power and controlled the Governor’s office and both chambers of the legislature.

HB 889 was a bipartisan bill sponsored by Representative Sonny Dixon of Chatham County

– a Democrat and later a WTOC news anchor, and co-sponsored by Democrats William Lee, Larry Walker, Jimmy Skipper, and Greg Hecht. One Republican signer backed the initiative — Robert Irwin. It was signed into law by Democrat Governor Zell Miller and took effect on January 1, 1998.

[Note: the vote totals by chamber are not available on legislature archives dating back to the 1990s]

What did HB 889 do?

• OCGA 21-2-234 was amended to clarify that any person who “has not signed a voter’scertificate,” which takes place when a vote is cast at the polls, in three calendar year shall be listed as “no contact”
• The Secretary of State, in the bill, was directed to purge the voter rolls in the first six months of odd-numbered years and required to notify the purged voter by mail instructing the elector to return a card to remain active
• Required purged voters who were dropped because they moved within the county or changed addresses in the county to update their address within 30 days of receiving the notice
• Dictated that if the card is not returned within 30 days, the voter is to be listed as ‘inactive.’
• Dictated that if the card is returned and indicates a change outside of the county of registration, the elector shall be removed from the rolls
• Required that electors placed on the “inactive” list be removed from the inactive list if they failed to vote in two November elections after being moved from ‘active’ to ‘inactive’
• Changed language for absentee ballots to not just address individuals, but specifically ‘citizens.’
• Required poll workers to be residents of the county in which they work the polls and be 16 years of age or older
• Required ballots to have language about the prohibition of vote buying

The bill also specifically authorizes the Constitutionally-created office of the Secretary of State to ‘promulgate reasonable rules and regulations for the implementation…” to limit fraud and even specifically suggests comparing voter registration records with death certificates.

OCGA 21-2-234, which deals with voter registration and voter rolls, can be viewed in its most recent version still on the books today. The law has remained intact since the Democrat initiative in 1997.

You can read the bill in its entirety here.

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I am sorry though I am not swayed by your hostility. I don't think it is a coincidence that the Republicans were able to take over the state shortly after this was pushed through after Democrats running the state totally prior to it's enactment. And that this is the same bullshit games that the Republicans have been doing to keep power in the hands of the Wealthy White Heterosexual Male Only agenda as long as possible.

Consolidating power under the Republican banner so their TV and Radio hate mongers (and later with internet trolling) can attack the Democrats and not get their messaging all confused in a state like Georgia.

TacoMac said:

Name one Georgia democrat that became a republican in the 70's or 80's.

Next, you'll be telling me Jimmy Carter is a racist republican.

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Why would they have to 'become' a Republican, when they could just retire their seat when a Republican was ready to take it over?

Wow. Just wow. Welcome to ignore you ignorant wretch.

Dixiecrat is no longer about the movement in 1948. It is a re contextualized word used to describe any voter or politician who changed party affiliation in the south because of racism. It became much easier to get elected a republican in the south after 1965 and easier still after Nixon's southern strategy. There used to be a lot of white democrat's in Alabama, what happened to them all? Did they die off? Ditto for Georgia, half the place is filled with people driven to the point of insanity by racism. How the fuck can you explain the support for Trump otherwise, except by profound stupidity.

Most people here know about Strom Thurman and the original Dixiecrats, rebellious democrats, because even in 1948 nobody in the old confederacy could conceive of voting for a republican.

Making such an idiotic argument means you'd be still calling the stuff you bought at a hardware store, hardware and not the things you buy a computer store.

TacoMac said:

Wow. Just wow. Welcome to ignore you ignorant wretch.

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I guess I am assuming you meant me, which I could be wrong, which seems to really fire you up for some reason.

If not, outside of any insults you had something to point to that I am mistaken about feel free to let me know. Because at this point you really haven't said much to make me think it wasn't just another scam that benefits the Republican party this millennium.


For anyone curious why @TacoMac is so mad at me, it seems like it started here:
https://www.rollitup.org/t/what-has-trump-done-to-this-country.1018837/post-16016902

Donald wants to screw Mitch, that's what this is about, this makes Mitch look like a fool and Nancy looks pleased. Nothing she can do about it, except try and get more help for people, any delay is not her fault, it's Mitch's and Donald's.
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Trump demands bigger stimulus checks in Covid relief bill (cnbc.com)

Trump calls Covid relief bill unsuitable and demands Congress add bigger stimulus payments

KEY POINTS

• President Donald Trump, in a stunning Tuesday night tweet, called the $900 billion Covid relief bill passed by Congress an unsuitable “disgrace.”
• He urged lawmakers to make a number of changes to the measure, including bigger direct payments to individuals and families.
• House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, one of Trump’s political arch enemies, agreed with his call for $2,000 payments.
• Trump did not threaten a veto. He had been expected to sign the legislation into law, along with a $1.4 trillion spending bill to keep the government open. Congress passed the measure with veto-proof majorities.

President Donald Trump, in a stunning Tuesday night tweet, called the $900 billion Covid relief bill passed by Congress an unsuitable “disgrace” and urged lawmakers to make a number of changes to the measure, including bigger direct payments to individuals and families.

Trump also suggested that his administration might be the “next administration,” despite his loss to President-elect Joe Biden.

The relief legislation passed by Congress on Monday was negotiated in part by a senior Trump administration official, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin. Trump himself had been absent from the talks since before the election. Lawmakers went home for the holidays after passing the bill.

The president’s tweet, which included a video of him discussing what he considers the bill’s many flaws, including funding headed overseas, came less than 24 hours after the Senate passed the measure. The foreign aid provisions are part of a $1.4 trillion measure to keep the government funded, which was paired with the Covid relief bill.

Trump did not threaten a veto in the video, and he had been expected to sign the legislation into law, along with the bill to keep the government open. The legislation passed both houses of Congress with veto-proof majorities.

“I am asking Congress to amend this bill and increase the ridiculously low $600 to $2,000, or $4,000 for a couple,” Trump said in the video.

In another jarring twist, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, one of Trump’s political arch enemies, agreed with his call for $2,000 payments. “Democrats are ready to bring this to the Floor this week by unanimous consent. Let’s do it!” she tweeted.

I don't know what too say.
The fucking Republicans have been fucking around for 7 months & now this is their COVID-19 relief package.
$600 direct aid to individuals & a supplementary $300 addition to to unemployment insurance for a mere 11 weeks.
What the fuck!!!!!
That's it?
We are fucking Doomed.

went to drain the main vain for my landlord and checked my bank account since i pay in advance- unemployment postponed

okay @Jimdamick time for what tics you off

now dear landlords you know who is doing this to you- my last 3 checks were $0 and no reason why i shouldn't have received my benefits as a result of loss of job from the Trump Plague.

this is how they control you by controlling our cash flow and you want to rip the front door off your tenants unit?

If the 25th Amendment can’t be used with this fascist bastard that in beyond fucking nuts, it can never be used. This prick pardon mass murderers.

hillbill said:

If the 25th Amendment can’t be used with this fascist bastard that in beyond fucking nuts, it can never be used. This prick pardon mass murderers.

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I would love to see a scenario that if the congress needs to all fly back to avoid a shut down, they also vote on removing Trump.

hillbill said:

If the 25th Amendment can’t be used with this fascist bastard that in beyond fucking nuts, it can never be used. This prick pardon mass murderers.

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To use it you have to have the Senate. This goes back to the impeachment that I told everybody would never work and it didn't. All it would do is waste time and money.

hanimmal said:

Makes me curious if it was the last remnant of the Dixiecrats pulling up the ladder behind them as they became Republicans.
https://ballotpedia.org/Georgia_State_Senate
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he hates me too if it makes you feel any better.

TacoMac said:

To use it you have to have the Senate. This goes back to the impeachment that I told everybody would never work and it didn't. All it would do is waste time and money.

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you are correct on needing the Senate.

as for impeach he needed to be called out regardless of removal which has never happened in our history.

but just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean you don't try.

besides we'll get the money back once we're able to rescind the 'tax cut' ('so they can keep more of their money')

Jimdamick said:

I don't know what too say.
The fucking Republicans have been fucking around for 7 months & now this is their COVID-19 relief package.
$600 direct aid to individuals & a supplementary $300 addition to to unemployment insurance for a mere 11 weeks.
What the fuck!!!!!
That's it?
We are fucking Doomed.

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today's fvckery is my unemployment says 'postponed' and hasn't paid me in 3 weeks.

The magic formula has been distilled down to it's essence and you will see it in action in Georgia. The 1% have learned with Donald that if they get the republicans to blow the dog whistle into the bull horn they can do anything they want. The morons are fighting tooth and nail in Georgia to cut their own throat's, all that is required is a vague promise to keep the brown folks down, or better yet, "make them go away". They are voting for and supporting two of the most corrupt examples for senate now, most of those who are supporting them will be fucked by them.

The republicans in office work for the rich and their own power, many are corrupt and before long all of them will be. Just look at the kinds of politicians the most racist districts and states vomit up. People run who are under criminal indictment and win election, the Texas AG is a good example as are the three corrupt clowns Trump just pardoned. Electing criminals and obviously corrupt criminals and liars is nothing new for the GOP. Look at Mitch McConnell's election FFS, 90% of those who voted for Mitch were fucked by Mitch and will continue to be fucked by Mitch, he works for the 1% only and it is blindingly obvious. But Mitch knows all the dog whistles too and that's what matters to his voters, except for a miniscule fraction, they are only concerned about not paying taxes.

It's how America went from a democratic society to a feudal one, ruled by a King, a house of Lords (the senate) a 3 million peers of the realm (oligarchy) who are served by 320 million serfs. The King will soon be dead, but unless the house of Lords is defeated nothing will change and the president will be powerless. The peers of the realm will use pocket change to sway millions with disinformation and bullshit, the magic formula of Lord Rupert discovered many years ago will be used. Blow the dog whistle subtlety into the bullhorn to attract the fear driven suckers and simpletons, then feed them socially divisive bullshit. If no issues exist, create them, prayer in schools, abortion, gay rights, teaching the evils of science, unelected bureaucrats, activist judges and of course GUNS, it's really about racism, these are just proxies.

They cannot use the N word or be overtly racist, even their supporters know this, doing that stuff can cost their voters their jobs and businesses in modern America. Things need to go underground, or at least under the surface, some won't even tell pollsters how they will vote and lie about it. However you will know them by their actions and votes are actions, words are often false, but actions betray intentions better than words. Few things drive such intentions and motivate such action, hate and fear top a short list followed by greed.

Next it will be Qanon that will absorb the masses while their pockets are emptied until they are enslaved. Tax cuts solve all problems and make it difficult to even form a community, much less a caring sharing one. Individual rights above all else, libertarianism is popular in America and nowhere else, individual rights, if you are white that is, if you are black you get shot. Racism and bigotry hold them together or suck them into false narratives, socialism is not about socialism, it is about racism and not forming sharing caring communities with those the fear, hate and despise. They cannot form a country with them either, though they are concentrated in the south, they now inhabit rural America too. Not too many brown folks in the country, most live in the big cities and towns.

Wonder why they no longer respect the military or honor veterans? Simple, the armed forces are full of brown people and it operates as a meritocracy and has been a social leader since 1948 progressing faster than American society. Most of these racist fucks can't get into the army, except when there's a war and uncle Sam needs warm bodies. Most won't join the military, they join militias, you don't need to take orders from a black female sergeant there. Why do you think they don't give a fuck about hospitals and medical workers and NYC turned them in to heroes? Many of the medical experts, doctors and nurses they see on TV being worked to death are brown people or Muslims etc and they don't give a fuck about "those people".

schuylaar said:

he hates me too if it makes you feel any better.

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It is the holidays, we are in the middle of a pandemic, and a attempted coup, all the trolling is really picking up, and since (I'm pretty sure he said he did anyways) he lives in Georgia, I am guessing he is getting hit especially hard.

It is inevitable that a lot of people will freak out for one reason or another.

Besides this and him being upset that I don't trust the reason behind the warrant against the data scientist in Florida, I am not sure what else is going on with his anger towards me, but it happens.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/police-interactions.994222/post-15985376