What IS it? Leaf surface is flaking off? PICS inside

KidneyStoner420

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I noticed today that 2 of the leaves seem to be flaking apart on one of my young plants. The top green part of the leaf is missing. This plant is just over 2 weeks old, and I've never seen this before.
I don't see any bugs anywhere with my naked eye.




 

KidneyStoner420

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Temps don't get above 80*.
I haven't even used any nutes yet.
Unsure of the strain. It's a bag seed from some good danks. Pretty sure it's Lemon Kush.
It's under a 250w HPS. The plant is about 15" from the bulb
 

Thedillestpickle

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Interesting...
I have the excact same problem with some of my leaves. Seems to be a toxicity of some sort as it occurs at higher doses. I keep a very stable pH so it's not that. My temps don't go above 86 and I keep my CO2 at 1200
It's not happening on leaves closest to the light so it's not that.
I'd like to find out what it is, not because I'm worried about my plants but because you won't find this "flaking" symtom in any of the plant nutrient guides.
It's almost hard to spot, the lower layer of cells on the leaf remain green while the upper layer flakes right off... the exposed lower layer dries out and becomes dead but it doesnt look dead because of the green colour

I'm growing in coco and feeding with H&G cocos. The NPK is 11-7-18 so I suspect the high K could be a factor. My plants are still vegging(just switched to 12/12)

Kidney what is the NPK of the soil you are growing in?
sure looks like it is high in Nitrogen, with those deep green leaves
The leaves that are flaking on my plants are also deeper green than the ones that arent flaking, so N toxicity could be the cause as well(though I didnt think 11-7-18 was all that high of N for veg)
I find it strange that this is an uncommon symptom, hopefully if we compare notes we can narrow it down for future reference.. maybe even get Nickgar17 to edit his nutrient disorders thread with some new info
 

LIVE2GRO

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id look around for bugs.. in soil.. on leaves.. under leaves.. with mag glass.. or microscope.. to rule bugs. out.. then u could see if its starting at the bottom and working it way up or not.. then look for signs of were it started ... and when did u add anything.. to ur soil.. to ur room..? new lights? anything.. im noticing some wierd ass coloring in my leaves.. its like the same thing except i think its Bleaching cause the plants are so huge and close to the light.. but i am going to take clones of them and replace them today.. i gotta keep some genetics ... i got gifted.. 3 strains that are out of this world.. and 2 of them are doing this wierd ass shading on the leaves.. kinda looks like bleaching but doesnt .. i have no clue..
 

KidneyStoner420

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Pickle, not sure what the NPK of my soil is. Its FFOF witha bout 25% perlite, and a few TBS of dolomite lime.
I'm thinking maybe it was just overfed?

Def not a bug issue.
 

Stomata

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TAP WATER @ around 6.5 and Cal-Mag @ 5ML per gallon. Remember to use conditioner for the chlorine/chlormines as well. 1/4 strength 1:1.5:1 nutes EVERY watering. Sunshine soil or FFOF with a little perlite added.

Guaranteed to work.

Peace.
 

Thedillestpickle

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Yea it doesnt appear to be a huge issue for me either, but its there and it may be an indication of something specific and in that case I would like to know what

Its definately not bugs or light burn... can pretty much rule out the general stuff with this one, its got to be something to do with the nutrients or maybe(but probably not) something to do with humidity and temperature.
its not rootbound(I have huge pots)

either way it doesnt seem to by too severe in my case but knowing what it is before it gets worse is a good idea
 

GrassCity Sucks

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Pickle, not sure what the NPK of my soil is. Its FFOF witha bout 25% perlite, and a few TBS of dolomite lime.
I'm thinking maybe it was just overfed?

Def not a bug issue.
14 inches is an awefully big distance for a plant under a little 250W HID light.

What someone needs to do, is create a database where we can upload a pic, and the server automatically spits out an accurate diagnosis. God that'd be so much easier :)

One day the technology will get there I'm sure :)
 

Thedillestpickle

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14 inches is an awefully big distance for a plant under a little 250W HID light.

What someone needs to do, is create a database where we can upload a pic, and the server automatically spits out an accurate diagnosis. God that'd be so much easier :)

One day the technology will get there I'm sure :)

Theres absolutely nothing wrong with 14 inches from 250watts

Yea it would be cool, but to make that database first we need the data
 

GrassCity Sucks

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Theres absolutely nothing wrong with 14 inches from 250watts

Yea it would be cool, but to make that database first we need the data
And someone to create an open-sourced image-recognition program that can scan a photo for similarities and compare to it's database :(

And 14 inches, that's over a foot from the light! It's not far, farrrr away, but last I used a HPS I tried to maintain a distance of no more than 6 inches. And that was a 400Wer.
 

Thedillestpickle

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And someone to create an open-sourced image-recognition program that can scan a photo for similarities and compare to it's database :(

And 14 inches, that's over a foot from the light! It's not far, farrrr away, but last I used a HPS I tried to maintain a distance of no more than 6 inches. And that was a 400Wer.
If you can get it that close than do it, but if you were growing more than 1 plant you'd have to grow vertical to keep them all 6 inches

Thats still alot of lumens at 14 inches
 

Stomata

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Had a friend just for fun back when we were 14 come downstairs with a GIANT turd on a plate. He had a fork and picked that fucker up. Pretended as if to eat it.

Long story short, your avatar reminds me of that...

Change your name to The Turdest.
 

GodSlave

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Do the leaves look like they have a shiny spots on them? Almost like you can look through it or it is iridescent.
GS:leaf:
 
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