What is this bug and how to stop it?

GroDank101

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I'm using Hempy 100% perlite. What the heck is this thing? There are only about 10 of them that I have counted so far. Plants are about half way through flowering. Thanks in advance 20161118_014841.jpg
 

rene112388

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Looks to me like whitefly probably greenhouse whitefly or (Trialeurodes vapariorum) what area are you in? That can help you narrow down the genus and species so you can find effective controls.
 

GroDank101

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think i should put some lady bugs in there? i just received a bunch of them but wondering if the ladybugs will lay eggs or poop or die on my buds. that could be even worse than whiteflies. just trying to avoid artificial insecticides if possible. i also have lacewings, but i think lady bugs would be easiest to move from plant to plant when i make harvests. my grow space is 4x2 feet and 5 feet tall.
 
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rene112388

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What area are you in? There are some biologicals but ladybugs will die everywhere lol you might be able to find something better
 

rene112388

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Here are the most effective biological controls according to Texas A&M

Biological control. There are a number of parasitic wasps and predators that actively prey on whiteflies. Most notably are Encarsia spp and Eretmocerus spp among the parasitic wasps and bigeyed bugs, minute pirate bugs, lacewing larvae, collops beetles and lady beetles among the predators. These natural enemies play an important role in suppressing whitefly populations, particularly in natural habitat. Infestations of BWWF are usually controlled by predacious insects unless destroyed by insecticide applications targeting other pests.
 

GroDank101

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the area is indoors, with temps 72F-78F and 35% RH. i didnt want to use lacewings because they look like really helpless bugs compared to the shelled ladybug.

and ladybug eggs are easier to deal with from what i read. if i let some lady bugs and lacewings in there will they eat the whitefly eggs? i hope im wrong i just really dont want to mistake trichomes for whitefly eggs, i think they look alike. and have a ton of whitefly eggs on my fresh crop at harvest. maybe insecticidal soap is a good idea i just dont want to be smoking those chemicals.
 
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Cpappa27

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think i should put some lady bugs in there? i just received a bunch of them but wondering if the ladybugs will lay eggs or poop or die on my buds. that could be even worse than whiteflies. just trying to avoid artificial insecticides if possible. i also have lacewings, but i think lady bugs would be easiest to move from plant to plant when i make harvests. my grow space is 4x2 feet and 5 feet tall.
I had to use lady bugs to control an aphid infestation before I found an easier way. Ladybugs are cool they don't do shit to the plants except eat all the little crunchy bugs and larvae everywhere, whiteflies dont stand a chance. You'd be surprised how much they can eat, and reproduce like crazy. They dont really leave the room either and they dont leave any shit or stuff behind that Ive seen and I had 10,000 at one time in the room, right up until chop. Also dont confuse ladybug larvae for a predator cause they look totally different from ladybugs and kinda creepy looking too but are just as harmless and cool.
 

Cpappa27

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Oh and for your answer as to control any bugs that eat any plant pretty much including all of the common cannabis pests problems indoors and out anywhere in the world, use Spinosad. It can be used right up until a few days before chop and its completely natural. The story behind it is very interesting, its a naturally occurring soil dwelling bacteria that was discovered and collected from an abandoned rum distillery on a Caribbean island in 1982. Its was defined as a new species when discovered and has never been found anywhere else in the world. It does not significantly impact predatory beneficial insects while controlling pests. Susceptible insect pests will be observed on plants may be observed on plants up to several hours later after treatment , but will have ceased active feeding before being killed. Enjoy a much easier life from here on out!

Edit:I wish I could remember the member who introduced me to this so i can throw a shoutout and a thanks. I smoke too much :bigjoint:
 

rene112388

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the area is indoors, with temps 72F-78F and 35% RH. i didnt want to use lacewings because they look like really helpless bugs compared to the shelled ladybug.

and ladybug eggs are easier to deal with from what i read. if i let some lady bugs and lacewings in there will they eat the whitefly eggs? i hope im wrong i just really dont want to mistake trichomes for whitefly eggs, i think they look alike. and have a ton of whitefly eggs on my fresh crop at harvest. maybe insecticidal soap is a good idea i just dont want to be smoking those chemicals.
The great thing about insecticidal soaps is you can actually rinse it off and it breaks down relatively quick. Spinosad is amazing for edible crop, id recommend beneficial bacterium that targets whitefly. The liqour and cannabis control board also has an approved list which consists mostly of microbial formulations. I would say check there. Beneficial insects are great but they do not always provide the most effective control
 

whitebb2727

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thats who told me, @whitebb2727 , I wonder why we didnt talk about this on here in 2013 hasnt it been around for a while? Also thank you for showing me, I am telling everyone I know, even people who don't grow. :bigjoint:
I used it for the first time a year or so ago. People will use dangerous chemicals on their plants.

I read up on it. It seems it is like everything else cannabis related. Some say yes, some say no.

It worked. Worked so good I started using it on my vegetable garden.
 

Cpappa27

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I used it for the first time a year or so ago. People will use dangerous chemicals on their plants.

I read up on it. It seems it is like everything else cannabis related. Some say yes, some say no.

It worked. Worked so good I started using it on my vegetable garden.
It works amazing, and I will use it everywhere as well. thanks man.
Heres to knowledge
 
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