What is wrong with my girls?

So I have a couple of questions about these plants. As you see in the photo some of the leaves have dying spots on them. I checked the sticky's and I'm thinking maybe magnesium or ph.(do I check the water ph or the soil?) Not sure so I thought I would ask. Also the newer stems on the plants are turning red. The have been this way for awhile. Anything I should be concerned about? One more thing. I am trying the SOG. I clone, transplant once I see roots(out of the peat pellets), and then let them veg for 2 weeks before going into the budding chamber. The plant pictured is about to go in with in the next week. Is a 4x4 inch container too small? Maybe I should go with something bigger.

Thanks

P.s. -- Most of the lower fan leaves on my clones die and fall off just before or after going into the bud box.

Any ideas?

my guess is ph fluctuation, check the mix you're using to water it, and check the runoff also..

you could try giving it a good flush with ph adjusted water, until the runoff matches the ph of your mix..

regards

I've got the same problem with some of mine, I'm waiting for an anwser too. Does it start off with some light green spots on the leaves, then the light green turns to brown? Mine are growing alright despite some brown spots caused by this. I've checked the PH and it's about 6.5 and has always been the same, so it's not that.

idunnno-looks to me like its a chemical burn.dont feed your plants for a while with any foods.
keep up the good work

I never fed them anyway, there in normal soil and I was waiting for the seedling leaves to fall off before I fed them. I think it might be heat stress though, my grow space was at 30C for a while and I had the light close to the plants, I've fixed it now and they don't seem to be getting any worse.

Plant Abuse Chart and Photos by Nietzsche look these pictures over im not saying your abusing your plant it s just a guide to show excesses good luck... rob

I looked at that entire guide and a lot of the problems have the same symptoms. I will check the ph level as soon as I get a meter. A cheapo from the hardware store? Also I am noticing that the leaves are drying out a bit and turning papery. Added a few pictures..Sorry about the blury one. Are the red stems normal? Mother plant has that too. Also do you think the 4x4 pots are enough to go through the SOG with? Thanks for all the great information

So I got a soil testing kit. The one with the little tubes and capsules. I put the soil in and used the water I have been watering the ladies with and it come up with a ph of around 7. Seems to me that is a good ph level. m I right? Is there a tester that comes in the form of a meter. Something to just dip in the water? These tubes suck. The kit came with N, P, and K test tubes as well. I'm going to check those.

ph of 7 i think is neutral just where it should be now move to the next most obvious cause..hate to say this, has to be a process of elimination at times

I am now thinking that they just need a dose of everything. I didn't change the dirt on all of them last time. Not sure though. I'm getting the green veins now. Even my mother plant who has been in the miracle gro time release dirt for about 6 months is showing the dark veins and lighter rest of the leave. Magnesium right? Just seems maybe I should be starting with something fresher for dirt. Should I try the Epsom salt first?

So I checked the ph of my water both before and after going through the pot. Before was 6.8 and after was 7.2. Gave half of my small vegging plants a watering with 2 tbsp. of epsom salt per gallon H2O. The other half I used regular water. Can definitely see a mag def in the mothers so I gave them a watering with it too. I will let everyone know how it turns out. Could anyone answer my question about whether or not 4x4 pots are enough for the SOG method?

Thanks

fadetoblack72 said:

I am now thinking that they just need a dose of everything.

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yes, agreed, about that time, but please, start low, 1.4 strength. lack og K, Mg, and Ca. they r hungry.

smokeybandit22 said:

yes, agreed, about that time, but please, start low, 1.4 strength. lack og K, Mg, and Ca. they r hungry.

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What would you reccomend to use as a fertilizer? I'll be getting some fox farms but probably not soon enough. Something from this list maybe?
Bayer Advanced Garden 2 in 1 Systemic Rose & Flower 8-12-4
Bayer Advanced Garden All in One w/systemic 9-14-9
Bayer Advanced 12 Month Tree & Shrub Protect & Feed 2-1-1
Bio-tone Starter Microbial Plant Food 3-0-0
Bio-tone Starter Plus All Natural Plant Food 4-3-3
Blood - Dried 12-0-0
Bonemeal 4-12-0
Bonsai Plant Food Chrysal 4-6-6
Bulb Tone 4-10-6
Cock a Doodle Doo 4-2-3
Cottonseed Meal 6-1-1
Country Cottage Cow Manure 1-1-1
Desert Bat Guano 8-4-1
Dried Blood 12-0-0
Dyna Gro Bloom Plant Food 3-12-6
Dyna Gro Liquid K-L-N Rooting Concentrate .009-.011-.006
Dyna Gro Liquid Grow Plant Food 7-9-5
Dyna Gro Pro-Tekt 0-0-3
Earthworm Castings 1-0-0
Electra Plant Food 5-10-3
Espoma Quick Solutions Garden Food 5-10-5
Essential Plant Food 1-0-1
Fertilome Root Stimulator & Plant Starter Solution 4-10-3
Fertilome Start - N - Grow Premium Plant Food 18-6-12
Fertrell Super N 4-2-4
Flower Tone 3-5-7
Garden Food 5-10-5
Garden Food 10-10-10
Garden Manure 1-1-1
Garden Tone 4-6-6
GMF 10-10-10 10-10-10
GMF 5-10-10 5-10-10
Greensand 0-0-.1
Hoffman Dehydrated Super Manure 4-2-2
Holland Beauty Supreme Bulb Food 9-9-6
Hollytone 4-6-4
Ironite 1-0-1
Ironite Liquid Plant & Flower Food 7-6-6
Jack's Classic All Purpose 20-20-20
Jack's Classic Blossom Booster 10-30-20
Jobes Fertilizer Spikes 10-10-4
Jobes Fertilizer Spikes Fruit & Citrus 10-15-15
Kelp Meal 1-0-2
Milorganite 6-2-0
Miracid 30-10-10
Miracle Gro African Violet Plant Food 7-7-7
Miracle Gro All Purpose 15-30-15
Miracle Gro All Purpose Nursery Select 20-20-20
Miracle Gro Bloom Booster 15-30-15
Miracle Gro Evergreen Fertilizer Spikes 12-6-12
Miracle Gro Houseplant 8-7-6
Miracle Gro Houseplant Food Tablets 15-20-15
Miracle Gro Liqua Feed 12-4-8
Miracle Gro Potting Mix .21-.07-.14
Miracle Gro Quick Start 4-12-4
Miracle Gro Rose Plant Food 18-24-16
Miracle Gro Shake & Feed 10-10-10
Miracle Gro Tomato Plant Food 18-18-21
Miracle Gro Tree & Shrub Fertilizer Spikes 15-5-10
Moo Doo .5-.3-.5
Moo Plus 1-1-1
Neptune's Harvest Crab Shell Multi-Purpose Fertilizer 2-3-0
Neptune's Harvest Fish & Seaweed Fertilzer 2-3-1
Neptune's Harvest Fish Fertilzer 2-4-1
Neptune's Harvest Seaweed Fertilizer 0-0-1
Nitro-10 10-0-0
Organic Bonsai Fertilizer 4-6-2
Osmocote Azaela Camellia Rhododendrun 9-6-6
Osmocote Outdoor & Indoor 19-6-12
Osmocote Vegetable & Bedding 14-14-14
Penn Mulch 1-3-1
Peter's African Violet Plant Food 12-36-14
Peter's All Purpose Plant Food 24-8-16
Peter's Azaela, Camellia, & Rhododendrun Plant Food 24-12-12
Peter's Mum Food 26-12-18
Peter's Orchid Food 30-10-10
Plantabbs Pondtabbs Aquatic Plant Food 10-14-8
Plant Tone 5-3-3
Preen Garden Weed Preventer Plus Fertilzer 9-17-9
Pro Gro 5-3-4
Pro Holly 4-6-4
Pro Start 2-3-3
Rain Grow 4-2-3 Fertilizer 4-2-3
Repellex Bulb Saver Systemic Tablets 5-10-5
Repellex Fertilizer Tablets 14-2-2
Rock Phosphate 0-3-0
Roots transplant 1-step 2-2-2
Rose Tone 6-6-4
Ross Root Feeder refills for Evergreens 10-20-20
Ross Root Feeder refills Lush Fruit & Nut Trees 9-46-15
Ross Root Feeder refills Roses & Flowering Shrubs 15-25-10
Ross Root Feeder refills Trees & Shrubs 25-10-10
Ross Root Feeder Refills w/Iron 5-35-10
Schultz Cactus Plus Liquid Plant Food 2-7-7
Schultz Orchid Food 19-31-17
Schultz Plant Food Plus 10-15-10
Sulphate of Potash 0-0-50
Tomato Maker 4-2-6
Tomato Tone 4-7-10
Tree Tone (organic base) 9-5-4
Triple Phosphate 0-46-0
Urea 45-0-0


This is from the local grow store.

Thanks

fox farms is best but out of that list...
Bio-tone Starter Plus All Natural Plant Food 4-3-3
Dyna Gro Liquid Grow Plant Food 7-9-5
Ironite Liquid Plant & Flower Food 7-6-6
Rose Tone 6-6-4
Pro Gro 5-3-4
Peter's Azaela, Camellia, & Rhododendrun Plant Food 24-12-12
Osmocote Azaela Camellia Rhododendrun 9-6-6

...remember 2 things-1-you need miniscule amounts-forget the label recomendations
2-the higher the NPK concentrations, i.e. higher the 1-1-1 the less you needs. serioulsy, you need a tad. this stuff can burn.

Thanks. Now the pro gro is organic so it would take awhile for it to work right?

fadetoblack72 said:

Thanks. Now the pro gro is organic so it would take awhile for it to work right?

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a bit, skip that one.