What sources of information are objectively credible?

Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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I'm sick of people posting bullshit from sites that clearly have a political bias. It's time we come up with a list of sources of information that we all can agree - or better yet, prove with evidence - are objectively credible.

So here's how it works, nominate a source of information (website, documentary, book, etc.) you believe is credible, provide evidence, then we vote "Credible Source of Information/Not a Credible source of Information". Since popularity of content doesn't necessarily mean the source of information is in fact credible, it's not a scientific poll, but we'll have a list of sources we can identify as "Mostly Liberal Slant", "Mostly Objective/Center Slant", "Mostly Conservative Slant", and anything in between. So next time someone posts something from a site on the list, we will have an already qualified (according to members) position on how credible it is and how much weight it holds.

So let's get the obvious ones out of the way..

  1. I nominate MSNBC and I rate it as having a "Far Left, Mostly Liberal Slant"
  2. I nominate CNN and I rate it as having a "Center-Right Slant"
  3. I nominate Fox News and I rate it as having a "Far Right, Mostly Conservative Slant"
 
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ChesusRice

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Padawanbater2 said:
I'm sick of people posting bullshit from sites that clearly have a political bias. It's time we come up with a list of sources of information that we all can agree - or better yet, prove with evidence - are objectively credible.

So here's how it works, nominate a source of information (website, documentary, book, etc.) you believe is credible, provide evidence, then we vote "Credible Source of Information/Not a Credible source of Information". Since popularity of content doesn't necessarily mean the source of information is in fact credible, it's not a scientific poll, but we'll have a list of sources we can identify as "Mostly Liberal Slant", "Mostly Objective/Center Slant", "Mostly Conservative Slant", and anything in between. So next time someone posts something from a site on the list, we will have an already qualified (according to members) position on how credible it is and how much weight it holds.

So let's get the obvious ones out of the way..

  1. I nominate MSNBC and I rate it as having a "Far Left, Mostly Liberal Slant"
  2. I nominate CNN and I rate it as having a "Center-Right Slant"
  3. I nominate Fox News and I rate it as having a "Far Right, Mostly Conservative Slant"
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The best you can do is Reuters, Fox business, Al Jazeera and BBC for single source news
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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ChesusRice said:
The best you can do is Reuters, Fox business, Al Jazeera and BBC for single source news
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ChesusRice nominates:

  1. Reuters
  2. Fox Business
  3. Al Jazeera
  4. BBC
My Votes

-Reuters - Credible Source of Information - Objective
-Fox Business - Not Credible - Far Right, Mostly Conservative Slant
-Al Jazeera - Partly Credible - Liberal Slant
-BBC - Credible Source of Information - Objective
 
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ChesusRice

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Padawanbater2 said:
ChesusRice nominates:

  1. Reuters
  2. Fox Business
  3. Al Jazeera
  4. BBC
My Votes

-Reuters - Credible Source of Information - Objective
-Fox Business - Not a Credible - Far Right, Mostly Conservative Slant
-Al Jazeera - Partly Credible - Liberal Slant
-BBC - Credible Source of Information - Objective
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Fox Business reports news investors want to know. They don't slant their reporting unless it is an opinion piece.
Money doesn't care about politics, religion or skin color.
You will see many times Fox Business contradicts Faux news reporting.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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ChesusRice said:
Fox Business reports news investors want to know. They don't slant their reporting unless it is an opinion piece.
Money doesn't care about politics, religion or skin color.
You will see many times Fox Business contradicts Faux news reporting.
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Got a report to confirm this?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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I'll nominate Time, Newsweek, National Geographic, Discover, Scientific American, Popular Science/Mechanics.

Time; mostly credible, slight conservative slant
Newsweek; mostly credible, slight conservative slant
National Geographic; credible, objective
Scientific American; credible, objective
Pop Sci/Mech; mostly credible, slightly conservative
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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ttystikk said:
I'll nominate Time, Newsweek, National Geographic, Discover, Scientific American, Popular Science/Mechanics.

Time; mostly credible, slight conservative slant
Newsweek; mostly credible, slight conservative slant
National Geographic; credible, objective
Scientific American; credible, objective
Pop Sci/Mech; mostly credible, slightly conservative
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Time; zero credibility, massive liberal slant
Newsweek; zero credibility, massive liberal slant
National Geographic; mostly credible, slight liberal slant
Scientific American; mostly credible, slight liberal slant
Pop Sci/Mech; mostly credible, fairly objective
Reuters; credible, objective
Fox Business; mostly credible, slight Conservative slant
Al Jazeera; zero credibility, massive liberal slant
BBC, mostly credible, liberal slant
Fox News; mostly credible, massive Conservative slant
MSNBC; zero credibility, massive liberal slant
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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MuyLocoNC said:
Time; zero credibility, massive liberal slant
Newsweek; zero credibility, massive liberal slant
National Geographic; mostly credible, slight liberal slant
Scientific American; mostly credible, slight liberal slant
Pop Sci/Mech; mostly credible, fairly objective
Reuters; credible, objective
Fox Business; mostly credible, slight Conservative slant
Al Jazeera; zero credibility, massive liberal slant
BBC, mostly credible, liberal slant
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LOL @ Scientific American; 'mostly credible, slight liberal slant'

Gotta hate them liberal facts, now... don't let THOSE get in the way of a good argument!
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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ttystikk said:
LOL @ Scientific American; 'mostly credible, slight liberal slant'

Gotta hate them liberal facts, now... don't let THOSE get in the way of a good argument!
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LOL @ thinking because they have Scientific in their name, they can't have a liberal slant on some subjects.

I won't even go into your rating Time and Newsweek, two complete liberal rags, as having ANY Conservative slant. You might as well claim the NY Times has a Conservative slant.

You're not perceived as very bright, I wouldn't go commenting on other people's votes and remove all doubt.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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MuyLocoNC said:
LOL @ thinking because they have Scientific in their name, they can't have a liberal slant on some subjects.

I won't even go into your rating Time and Newsweek, two complete liberal rags, as having ANY Conservative slant. You might as well claim the NY Times has a Conservative slant.

You're not perceived as very bright, I wouldn't go commenting on other people's votes and remove all doubt.
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Perceptions can be deceiving, you're a case study.

You see, 'objective' isn't defined by your 'values', it's what can actually be proven correct.

I can definitely see how right wingers would get confused.
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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ttystikk said:
Perceptions can be deceiving, you're a case study.

You see, 'objective' isn't defined by your 'values', it's what can actually be proven correct.

I can definitely see how right wingers would get confused.
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Really, so we're voting based on "proven" objectivity, not our own perception? What yet to be voted on sources will be used as evidence. Me thinks you resemble a dog chasing its tail. I'd love to see the evidence that Time and Newsweek have a Conservative slant over the thousands and thousands of articles that they offer.

I can definitely see how you are confused.

You'll notice the Op called for evidence to be provided for nominated sources and then proceeded to nominate three sources without evidence. This thread started and ended as a circle jerk.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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MuyLocoNC said:
Really, so we're voting based on "proven" objectivity, not our own perception? What yet to be voted on sources will be used as evidence. Me thinks you resemble a dog chasing its tail. I'd love to see the evidence that Time and Newsweek have a Conservative slant over the thousands and thousands of articles that they offer.

I can definitely see how you are confused.

You'll notice the Op called for evidence to be provided for nominated sources and then proceeded to nominate three sources without evidence. This thread started and ended as a circle jerk.
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"- or better yet, prove with evidence -"

"Since popularity of content doesn't necessarily mean the source of information is in fact credible, it's not a scientific poll, but we'll have a list of sources we can identify as "Mostly Liberal Slant", "Mostly Objective/Center Slant", "Mostly Conservative Slant", and anything in between."

:roll:
 
meristem

meristem

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There is no such thing as objectivity in today's media. Really, there's no such thing as complete objectivity in journalism, period. How much biased opinion gets injected into media news coverage, whether intentional or not, is a matter of degrees.

The US media is pretty much either a butt boy for the Left, or a butt boy for the Right. They're little more than propaganda wings of either the Republicans (Fox News, Talk Radio, couple newspapers, etc.) or the Democrats (nearly everything other than Fox News,and Talk Radio).

Of course, we can always turn to rags like this - but in lots of ways it's really not too different.

 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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Padawanbater2 said:
"- or better yet, prove with evidence -"

"Since popularity of content doesn't necessarily mean the source of information is in fact credible, it's not a scientific poll, but we'll have a list of sources we can identify as "Mostly Liberal Slant", "Mostly Objective/Center Slant", "Mostly Conservative Slant", and anything in between."

:roll:
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You forgot this portion where you specifically outlined the process.

"So here's how it works, nominate a source of information (website, documentary, book, etc.) you believe is credible, provide evidence, then we vote "Credible Source of Information/Not a Credible source of Information"."

It's odd you left that out of your rebuttal.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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MuyLocoNC said:
You forgot this portion where you specifically outlined the process.

"So here's how it works, nominate a source of information (website, documentary, book, etc.) you believe is credible, provide evidence, then we vote "Credible Source of Information/Not a Credible source of Information"."

It's odd you left that out of your rebuttal.
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I'm pretty sure I knew what I meant when I came up with the rules

I said nominate a source, and provide evidence for it if you have it - it would be better if you had it, but it's not required as it's not a scientific poll
 
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