What strain can offer me the best sativa dominant pheno to keep for ever?

I've been growing Kali Mist for a few years now and I'll attest to the quality of the plant. yeah, it's a little finicky to grow, but if I can do it, most anyone with a little practical knowledge on growing can make it happen. Go light on the feed and you'll do ok. 12 weeks is a realistic target to figure. Mine is ready to my liking around 85 days if I don't make too many mistakes. The taste and smell are great. The exhaled smoke smells like high quality opium. The yield isn't too bad for a sativa and the high is potent and long lasting. In my opinion, fantastic is an accurate description of the strain.

droopy107 said:

I've been growing Kali Mist for a few years now and I'll attest to the quality of the plant. yeah, it's a little finicky to grow, but if I can do it, most anyone with a little practical knowledge on growing can make it happen. Go light on the feed and you'll do ok. 12 weeks is a realistic target to figure. Mine is ready to my liking around 85 days if I don't make too many mistakes. The taste and smell are great. The exhaled smoke smells like high quality opium. The yield isn't too bad for a sativa and the high is potent and long lasting. In my opinion, fantastic is an accurate description of the strain.

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got my mouth watering

ace seeds zamaldelica blows them all away. all sativa but longer flower time but worth every bit of it. grown right nothing else mentioned so far comes close. harvest early and it will scare the shit out of you and let it finish it is everything people think a sativa should be and more. trippy visual energetic awesome and extremely potent and can wipe you out if you enjoy to much.

Thanks a lot again for all of your inputs. Im redefining my list and thinking about trying three different strains. The bad thing about this, is that I will have to buy 3-5 packs, instead of buying a lot of one and phenosearch deeply. Perhaps it could be: 6 Kali Mist (Serious Seeds), 3 Zamaldelica (Ace) and 5 Sannie's Jack. What do you guys think? Would it be better to choose one and buy several packs, or spread it and hopefully find a keeper in at least one, leaving some chance for variety?

that zamaldelica, is that fems or regs? from the descriptions the fem sounds scarier. its ht with a reversed malawi vs i think thai for regs

It's Malawai x Zamal for fems or vice versa and Malawai/Thai x Zamal for regs.

All of em can be straight herms if you go that route. I'm only half way done some regs.

ive heard of them havin herm problems also but have never had that issue with them. ive done zamal, zamaldelica, malawi, and durban and never had an issue but ive also only done the regs. im in the process of hitting a malawi and zamaldelica to a great male c99 from mosca and frost bros stock just to see if it brings down flower time any and keeps any of the traits from them

st0wandgrow said:

I bought two 5-packs of Sugar Punch a while back, but have only grown out 2 of them with a 3'rd that was just germinated. The two that I grew out and smoked were not all that impressive IMO. Granted it's a very small sample size, but I have a theory that maybe OGE can chime in on:

I think there may be some issues with one of the parents of this cross. I heard all of the glowing reports and decided to get in on some Sugar Punch. I had to wait forever to get some because right around that time there were 2 separate instances where Sannie had failed attempts at pollinating the mother. I'm no breeder, but that struck me as odd. I'm really wondering if he is now using an inferior sibling of one of the parents to make this cross?? Hopefully I'm wrong and I find a gem or two in the remaining 8 seeds..... but the first two i grew were average at best. Certainly not a very Sativa buzz.

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I actually wonder about epigenetic impact of plant health on the seeds the plants produce. Might be a problem. Flip side though is I have seen some nice plants in journals from the latest line. I think it's a really variable line. The worst plant I grew from the packs I popped, well the two worst were only decent-good.

My Kali mist is the shit. Love it..3 weeksvaway on one now
My sugarpunch is nice...I've kept it around even tho it was a bitch about auto flowering slightly.. Great all around smoke,shitty growth if u get a weird pheno maybe..but it clears up after a bit..got a huge one in the tent now...
Shitty pic of a recent chop ..

chirim2003 said:

ive heard of them havin herm problems also but have never had that issue with them. ive done zamal, zamaldelica, malawi, and durban and never had an issue but ive also only done the regs. im in the process of hitting a malawi and zamaldelica to a great male c99 from mosca and frost bros stock just to see if it brings down flower time any and keeps any of the traits from them

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Had 2 full blown herms in a pack of regs I'm running. Annoying but not unexpected.

How many plants you got going, OGEG? Hows the Jack doing? Then Ill probably skip on the Ace Seeds. That may open up for a Sensi strain. NLx Haze or Silver Haze

anyone run mr nice ssh? im inclined to prefer mr nice over sensi, but just gut feeling lol nothing concrete to support one or the other...

I've heard various rumblings that Sensi seeds, can be overpriced letdowns, but nothing concrete too substantiate that claim other than reading it in forums...Mr. Nice seeds on the other hand, gets pretty strong support...

If you want to get something that you won't have to take a risk on I would seriously consider some Bodhi strains. All of his strains are top notch and he has some that are very Sativa influenced. Some to look at would be Dream Beaver, Dragon Fruit, Prayer Tower, and Silver Mountain. I am sure in those you would find multiple winners, and all of them are big yielders as well if that's your thing.

And you can not go wrong with Female seeds C99. It has it all, it has amazing fruity smells - very sativa clear high, very fast flowering. And it is cheap!

I would personally go with a pack or two of Bodhi and probably get a couple single C99 beans. Look up some grows of these and I'm sure you will be happy with these. Anymore I just hate taking risks on bad plants or I should say mediocre (average) plants. If you go with Bodhi you know even your worst plant is going to be above average.

I am not saying Bodhi is the only guy that has great strains, I am just saying there is no use taking risks when you can have something amazing in every pack. I know not a lot of people consider Nirvana a great company either but I had a pheno of AK48 that was great as well. Very sativa clear high. And it was very fast flowering as well. That was a strain I had when I was first starting out and I think it is still a good choice for someone. Easy to grow, yields great, and from clone if vegged until mature I could pull it in under 50 days from flip. Much like the C99 just different tastes.

I have never used Sannies but have heard great things about them as well. I just think your going to have a lot more mediocre plants then you would with some of Bodhis. Hope this helps some.

benbud89 said:

How many plants you got going, OGEG? Hows the Jack doing? Then Ill probably skip on the Ace Seeds. That may open up for a Sensi strain. NLx Haze or Silver Haze

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I had 6 zamaldelicas. I have around 30 atm total. I wouldn't let the herms put you off Ace. They have said it will herm, I knew it was possible. They are continuing the work the line to eliminate the herms, but zamal and anything crossed to it directly is notorious for them.

you can never go wrong with bodhi i keep a male n female of his black triangle and tranquel elephantizer remix on had at all times they are awesome and everything of his ive grown has been good as well as mr nice. the only thing ive encountered with sensi is germ rates low sometimes and i think that happens because people dont like the prices of them so they sit at some banks. but they are good. ssh is a good strain also and female c99 i to and check out blimburn seeds c99 it came from frost bros as dizzle was said to have sold the c99 stock to them its awesome as well as kos c99 i also am really liking the mosca c99 bx1 ive been playin with has been a great c99 and a better yeild and im trying to figure out why. apollo 13 from mota is awesome also check it out

benbud89 said:

Thanks a lot again for all of your inputs. Im redefining my list and thinking about trying three different strains. The bad thing about this, is that I will have to buy 3-5 packs, instead of buying a lot of one and phenosearch deeply. Perhaps it could be: 6 Kali Mist (Serious Seeds), 3 Zamaldelica (Ace) and 5 Sannie's Jack. What do you guys think? Would it be better to choose one and buy several packs, or spread it and hopefully find a keeper in at least one, leaving some chance for variety?

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Some great suggestions up in here.

Regarding Kali Mist..... I wouldn't do it. I grew out Kali Mist years ago from their original cross and it was fantastic. Everything you look for in a top shelf sativa. They decided to cross it to an Afghani about 10 years ago and ever since the strain hasn't been the same. I lost my original mother in a flood and immediately ordered another pack...... which wasn't anything like I was used to. Too much Indica influence now. Supposedly Sagarmatha Western Winds is the real deal Kali Mist genetics circa 2000. Might want to cjheck them out instead if Kali Mist is on your radar. I've heard that the fem version is a better representation of Kali Mist than the reg beans are.

I also agree with the Female Seeds C-99 suggestions. I have grown out several of those and they are great. Easy to grow, done in 7 weeks, great pineapple smell, and nice smoke. Not great smoke (some Indica in there) but still very nice.

Mr Nice Mango Haze is also another nice one that I've grown. My keeper took about 14 weeks to finish, but it was fantastic smoke and a big yield.

I have grown both the Killing Fields and the Jack and was very impressed with each. The highs are not lacking, but were very strong eye opening sativa highs. However, the taste is really where the Killing Fields shined, I've never had anything else like it. The regs are also fantastic breeding material, if you're into that type of thing. Good yields and structure, and nothing took longer than 11 weeks. The strongest ones are very hazey though, and can be a little racey and even paranoia inducing for some people. Really get your brain moving a mile a minute though, if you're into that type of thing.
If you're looking for something a little more mellow, but still looking for something good and sativa natured, I recommend Bodhi's Elphinstone or Strange Brew, both crosses with the Breeder Steve's Sweet Skunk clone, with uppy citrusy sativa buds.
C99 should never be a disappointment, but its a little more on the hybrid-esque side of highs when compared to a real hazey sativa. Stil great though, and much faster finishing than anything else in the list, often being good to pull between 50-55 days.

I forgot about the sweet skunk, add that to the list.

When I grew the C99 I didn't really get much pineapple out of the phenos, they were almost all straight greapefruit. The smaller one had some pineapple too it. But honestly when ever I opened the jars they were just straight grapefruit. No questions asked you could smell grapefruit clear as day. Almost didn't smell like weed.

Real Blue Dream is a keeper for life.
OG version of Cherry Pie is also.