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Colo MMJ

Colo MMJ

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HydroRed said:
He makes a great point. You may be limited by the electrical load you can have per room. Just cuz you got $2000 a month to spend on electrical, doesn't mean the rooms can handle a load like that. Check your main panel and the breakers for each room and calculate what you can get away with in total. It would suck to buy 10K watts of light to find out you can only run 4K of it.
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God forbid that you cut corners on the electrical and burn the house down.
 
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Greenfella1

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Colo MMJ said:
He was being a bit sarcastic but heed his advice. You are trying to go from zero to 100 mph in 4 seconds. 20 lbs is a lot of stuff. If you have no experience in something like that - the penalties are severe.
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Colo MMJ said:
God forbid that you cut corners on the electrical and burn the house down.
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im solid on the electrical . I won't burn it down , overloading the circuit breaker is what would cause this but only if you use wire to big for your breaker size .... say 12-2 can be used with a 20 amp breaker and even a 15 amp breaker .... but you cannot use 14 with anything bigger than a 15 amp breaker due to the wires rating . When people put a 20 amp breaker or bigger on 14 gauge wire you run a risk of fire due to the wire not being rated for up to 20 amps .

Thank all of you guys for the help seriously
 
Gquebed

Gquebed

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Colo MMJ said:
He was being a bit sarcastic but heed his advice. You are trying to go from zero to 100 mph in 4 seconds. 20 lbs is a lot of stuff. If you have no experience in something like that - the penalties are severe.
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Takes me about 40 hours to properly trim about 3 lbs of dried flower. Im a little slow so... lets call it 250 man hours to trim 20 lbs every month. Most people work about 160 hours a month at their full time jobs.
 
HydroRed

HydroRed

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Gquebed said:
Takes me about 40 hours to properly trim about 3 lbs of dried flower. Im a little slow so... lets call it 250 man hours to trim 20 lbs every month. Most people work about 160 hours a month at their full time jobs.
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Im in the area of about 12 hrs per elbow & thats in 3-4 hr blocks. After about 3 hrs or so, my back is killing me from being hunched over the catch pile. Getting old sucks haha
Lots of peolpe that dont know really underestimate the amount of work that goes into trimming.
 
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Greenfella1

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HydroRed said:
Im in the area of about 12 hrs per elbow & thats in 3-4 hr blocks. After about 3 hrs or so, my back is killing me from being hunched over the catch pile. Getting old sucks haha
Lots of peolpe that dont know really underestimate the amount of work that goes into trimming.
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Is a trimming machine feasible ?
 
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Greenfella1

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GrowGorilla said:
Yes, but hand cranking that much bud? Fuck that. No point in investing in one of those ones. Get one that you feed the hopper and it comes out the other end trimmed. Those are thousands of dollars though. But if you are growing 20 lbs per month you can afford one.
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Hahah well it's looking like I'll be growing maybe 3 lbs a month until I get the hang of it , so I reckon I won't be affording one of those with a hopper you feed for a while . So how about a hand crank for 3lbs ... maybe if I get the hang of it , hand crank up to 10lbs .
 
OrganicGorilla

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Greenfella1 said:
Hahah well it's looking like I'll be growing maybe 3 lbs a month until I get the hang of it , so I reckon I won't be affording one of those with a hopper you feed for a while . So how about a hand crank for 3lbs ... maybe if I get the hang of it , hand crank up to 10lbs .
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Well it beats manual trimming but manual trimming gives the best trim and bag appeal. You’ll have to give them a final hand trim after the bowl
 
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Greenfella1

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HydroRed said:
The bigger the rooms, the more exhaust fans/air exchange/heating and A/C you need. That why most have suggested doing your cuts/mommas and vegging all in one veg room. Personally, I'd keep my transplanting to a minimum. I can see jumping from smaller pot to bigger pot....if you dont have room to house 10-15 vegging plants in 5 gal buckets. But you do have the room so just start them off in solo cups as cuts, then transplant right into the pots they will flower in. Veg them in the same pots they will be flowered in and just move them to the flower room when ready.
Seems like you have a solid idea on how to run a perpetual.
Mommas:cut clones:roots clones for 7-14 days in solo cups:transplant to flowering pots:veg for 4 weeks:move pots to flower room.
In this time, you are running another set of cuts to be run through the process described and another set into the flower room 4 weeks later. 4 week perpetual grow that gives you x amount of plants ready for harvest every 4 weeks.
The new/novice grower should be able to achieve about 1/2 a gram per watt of lighting used. If you use (6) 1000W HPS lights in your flower room that equates to about 3000 grams for the room total (approx 3 lbs) every 4 weeks. Are you seeing where you would need to be at with equipment,electricity, and man power to achieve 20lbs a month now?

Heres a quick mach up of a room set up for a perpetual every 4 weeks.
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When you move the plants from the veg room to the flower room, you will fill a row every 4 weeks so the 2 rows in flower room will be staggered apart by 4 weeks so you can get on course to yield every 4 weeks per row. As soon as you pull a row, the next set of plants that have been vegging for the past 4 weeks can go into the empty row in the flower room. You will need to be on top of cutting from the momma and getting them rooted and vegging to keep up with the 4 week rotation of the flowering cycles. Sounds easy on paper, but it can be a task -certainly for someone new at it.
Another thing to think about is if you plan to run say 10 potted plants per row, then you will need 40+ pots total for the whole gig if using reusable pots.
-10 pots in veg under the MH lights
-10 pots for flower row 1
-10 pots for flower row 2
-10 pots that are in reserve to transplant from rooted clone to veg while one of the flowering rows is being harvested. That way you can be starting a new row of flower while harvesting the last row of flower you just took out and not be waiting on the pots that they are currently in.
Plus 1 pot for every momma.

It would take pages upon pages of me writing info to get you "kinda prepared" for a setup like this.
Thats why we have been urging you to start off small and get in your groove before doing something on a scale like this.
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Can we PM somehow ?
 
Gquebed

Gquebed

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HydroRed said:
Im in the area of about 12 hrs per elbow & thats in 3-4 hr blocks. After about 3 hrs or so, my back is killing me from being hunched over the catch pile. Getting old sucks haha
Lots of peolpe that dont know really underestimate the amount of work that goes into trimming.
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Exactly.
Even after i did 6 or so 1.5 lb runs in my 5x5 i was totally unprepared for how much work it was to trim 3 lbs when i upgraded my space. My friends and wife bailed on me after 3 hours that first harvest and i sat in the basement alone every night for a fn week...all cramped up and achey...lol

And cranky.... lol

Anyway, 12 hours per lb? looks like i need to pick up my trim game...lol
 
Colo MMJ

Colo MMJ

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Gquebed said:
Takes me about 40 hours to properly trim about 3 lbs of dried flower. Im a little slow so... lets call it 250 man hours to trim 20 lbs every month. Most people work about 160 hours a month at their full time jobs.
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He also needs to be really careful. I hope he is
Greenfella1 said:
I've looked at a lot of them , I have even seen some that you turn with a crank . The Ipower bud trimmer 19inch . It had good reviews
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I know some dudes in Colo who rent the Mini Triminator DRY for $100 a 24 hour period. The purchase price is $2600. They claim it is about as good as you can get machine trim. You can get a lot done in 24 hours if you are organized.

The thing is - more humans around during this process = more potential trouble. Oh yeah my friend knows a few people who can come over and help. Not a good idea.


One thing the guy points out is it does not need lubrication. I knew someone who has a friend who rented a machine that required lubrication. They ran a bunch of bud through the machine and it got lubrication oil on the bud!

It was rejected. I think they tried to make concentrate or something.
 
Colo MMJ

Colo MMJ

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HydroRed said:
Absolutely, but they dont trim anything as well as human hands and eyes. Trimmers are good for commercial applications. Mines a labor of love haha.


ya, you gotta have more posts/likes to PM. I can PM you though.
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Labor of love. The key word being labor.
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Greenfella1

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Colo MMJ said:
Labor of love. The key word being labor.
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I feel ya and I won't be bringing anyone in to help at any point ever .

And if I get pinched ... I mean yah it's sucks but the penalties where I reside aren't so severe .... they charge cultivation as possession and I'm looking at a max of 5 years if I even ever hit 50lbs . I will take it on the chin and hopefully have some cash stashed in the meantime .

As for the long hrs ... I have the time and work ethic .
 
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