What to do with male plants?

B

blackharley

New Member
If your after fem seeds you need a hermie, I think. you can get a nice female plant then stress it out say under intense light to get it to throw out fem seeds. oh and kill all males AS SOON as they show balls. males show sex earlier then fems too. they look like little grapes and fems have little white pistals and pre flowers. its prob a silly question. But if fem plants are pollinated early by males, then you rip all males. Is there a chance that the fem plant may turn out hermie? therefore producing fem seeds, or will they be male once pollinated?
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

Well-Known Member
A pollinated female that came from feminised stock will produce normal seeds.. a plant you can stress to produce seeds should be culled in my opinion. They will hermie easier and sooner .. a female plant should only turn out hermie if you used a hermie to make it. A good breeder will use colloidal silver (well that's a lie, we use cs, they use fancier crap)
 
HeadieNugz

HeadieNugz

Active Member
fir3dragon said:
Np, I forgot to mention, when females are seeded bud production stops and seed production begins that's why there's soo many seeds in mid or schwag weed. If anyone else had plants within a mile or 2 radius of yours, those are most likely also pollinated too. Now I'm no expert, I'm on my 6th grow and I'm indoors, I grow all bagseeds because I got thousands of them and you can have female bagseeds harvested without seeds at all. I've did it. With all the bagseeds I got, I won't have to buy any for many more grows, by then hopefully ill be pulling 1gram a watt (600w hps =600grams) then ill order seeds and maximize yield lol
Click to expand...
Depending on winds, the majority of pollen a male throws lands within 50 Sq Ft.
The rest wont make it farther than (at most) another 1/4 mile from that.

As for the initial post, too easy. Not even gonna touch this clown.
We need to stop feeding these trolls, this board has Cancer worse than /B/.
 
HeadieNugz

HeadieNugz

Active Member
blackharley said:
If your after fem seeds you need a hermie, I think. you can get a nice female plant then stress it out say under intense light to get it to throw out fem seeds. oh and kill all males AS SOON as they show balls. males show sex earlier then fems too. they look like little grapes and fems have little white pistals and pre flowers. its prob a silly question. But if fem plants are pollinated early by males, then you rip all males. Is there a chance that the fem plant may turn out hermie? therefore producing fem seeds, or will they be male once pollinated?
Click to expand...
Almost every sentence of that post was erroneous information.
Your doing it wrong, Stop that.
As Qwizo stated, CS is used for treating male pollen to inhibit the development of the male gene there-in.
"Breeding with Herman" is a technique for producing seeds with a higher rate of females, however in no way makes a fem seed.
Its more like shifting the odds in your favor. Just clone, if your a grower worth your salt it wont be hard.
Not to mention you cut 3 weeks of seedling out of the equation, and have a perfect genetic duplicate of the plant you just grew.
 
ThorGanjason

ThorGanjason

Well-Known Member
Thank you, I have read (older) threads that when on for pages and pages saying that Hermies give you feminized seeds. DEFINITELY not that easy-- not to mention, even if the seeds from a Hermie were female, or at least if the one you plant winds up being a female, then it is only more likely to herm up on its own, BC it does not have stress tolerance (like its manly mother).
 
Pop The Trunk

Pop The Trunk

Member
blackharley said:
If your after fem seeds you need a hermie, I think. you can get a nice female plant then stress it out say under intense light to get it to throw out fem seeds. oh and kill all males AS SOON as they show balls. males show sex earlier then fems too. they look like little grapes and fems have little white pistals and pre flowers. its prob a silly question. But if fem plants are pollinated early by males, then you rip all males. Is there a chance that the fem plant may turn out hermie? therefore producing fem seeds, or will they be male once pollinated?
Click to expand...
Getting seeds from a forced stressed out hermie plant will produce hermie seeds. Theres a good write up in a 2003 Hightimes mag that explains how to get female seeds vs hermie seeds.
 
B

blackharley

New Member
Yes my post prob does have errors. And thats why Im on RIU :) to Learn about this fantastic plant from all you inteligent people.
 
ImSoCuteAndDying5150

ImSoCuteAndDying5150

Member
Shoot them in the face lol no sometime with my outdoor grows I would leave one male amongst the lady's and it seemed as if the females produced way stickier buds and branch the whole plant really it was like the male stimulated the female it thinking its getting ready to get some pollen and then its gone blam nice out door grows good luck in your ventures
 
Dogenzengi

Dogenzengi

Well-Known Member
If the males are from good stock you could move one and put pollen catching bags on the branches.Get the Pollen, then kill your guy off, now you can pollinate a female for seeding and get regular seeds of the strain.


if I was growing outdoors that's how I would handle it, you could even pollinate another strain and create your own cross!


I wish I could grow outdoors!
Stuck indoors but I am trying to make do.


Bless,
DZ
 
BDOGKush

BDOGKush

Well-Known Member
BSD0621 said:
lol n00b galore. Read a book mate. You need to
Click to expand...
He posted a beginner question in the "Newbie" thread. Why even comment if you have nothing positive to add?

Seems like you've got a lot of decent info off your question OP. I kill males at first sight unless I'm doing a seed run but even then I'll separate the male from the females and harvest some pollen off the male and then use a hobby paint brush to lightly dust selective female flowers. This allows me to get seeds while not populating my nice tops with tons of seeds.
 
ThorGanjason

ThorGanjason

Well-Known Member
blackharley said:
Yes my post prob does have errors. And thats why Im on RIU :) to Learn about this fantastic plant from all you inteligent people.
Click to expand...
Its really hard getting good info sometimes, BC bad info can get spread so many times. I don't know how many times I've seen the "Hermie makes feminized seeds thing".

Its the worst in the plant problems section. I mean yeah, sometimes it takes guess work to brain storm a problem, but when people are trying to diagnose you can get 3 pages of different solutions lol.

There is definitely good info out there too; threads like this one can help stop it but too often they turn into a cussin' match
 
D

dolby

Member
Thankyou exactly what I was thinking , its not like im in the wrong thread. And for your answer exactly what I was looking for so I can select just a few buds and dust it over them? bit risky still ahhhhh :S
BDOGKush said:
He posted a beginner question in the "Newbie" thread. Why even comment if you have nothing positive to add?

Seems like you've got a lot of decent info off your question OP. I kill males at first sight unless I'm doing a seed run but even then I'll separate the male from the females and harvest some pollen off the male and then use a hobby paint brush to lightly dust selective female flowers. This allows me to get seeds while not populating my nice tops with tons of seeds.
Click to expand...
 
D

dolby

Member
sorry folks seen red earlier just didn't expect a member of that rep and following to be such a ass
ThorGanjason said:
Its really hard getting good info sometimes, BC bad info can get spread so many times. I don't know how many times I've seen the "Hermie makes feminized seeds thing".

Its the worst in the plant problems section. I mean yeah, sometimes it takes guess work to brain storm a problem, but when people are trying to diagnose you can get 3 pages of different solutions lol.

There is definitely good info out there too; threads like this one can help stop it but too often they turn into a cussin' match
Click to expand...
 
BDOGKush

BDOGKush

Well-Known Member
dolby said:
Thankyou exactly what I was thinking , its not like im in the wrong thread. And for your answer exactly what I was looking for so I can select just a few buds and dust it over them? bit risky still ahhhhh :S
Click to expand...
Yea I know, I don't understand why people go into the "Newbie" section with a description of "The best place to learn how to grow marijuana" and start bashing people's questions.

Nothing really risky about it, if you don't desire seeds, get the males out before it starts giving off pollen. If you do want some seeds but don't want to seed the entire plant you can do what I suggested. I'll dust some of the smaller popcorn buds with pollen and leave my good buds alone. Do it lightly and you should only pollinate the buds you dusted with pollen. There is a possibility that fans could always blow a little pollen into buds you didn't want to be seeded (I've never had this happen) but its much better than leaving the male with the female and having every bud be absolutely loaded with seeds.
 
Dogenzengi

Dogenzengi

Well-Known Member
Hi RIU,
As I understand it,
using a Hermie is a worse and far less reliable way to create female seeds than the use of colloidal Silver Spray on a plant.

The rate of females is lower and less predictable when a parent plant is a Hermie.

The seeds produced have the Hermi Genes and the plants can be stressed easier, turning plants Hermie as a result of almost any type of stress that overloads the plants natural balance.

Compared to changing the chemical makeup of a plant that will produce a more predictable outcome of Female seeds.

From my readings the use of CS does not create a stress induced female seed, the CS creates healthy seeds.

Again I am a Noob with to much time on my hands to read,
so none of this is from my own experience it is all based on my reading.

Bless,
DZ
 
B

BSD0621

Well-Known Member
The reason people "bash: is because people ask stupid fucking questions that have been cover'd MILLIONS of times if not more. People are either too lazy or brain dead to search for a grow guide and READ THE FUCKING THING! But I guess humans are prone to asking stupid questions as the education system is meant to teach you, not for a individual to learn on their own or seek answers to their questions...
 
Dogenzengi

Dogenzengi

Well-Known Member
BSD,
I think all the Noobies who ask redundant questions, questions that may have already been covered.
They are Human and in Joining a Group of Like Minded people they expect that information would/will flow freely.

If I can save someone two hours of watching YouTube video because I did I share gladly with anyone.

I am sure you are very well read and have tons of hours of study on the subject of Marijuana Botany.
Being so educated as you seem it must make us beginners a pain to people like you.

I say feel free not to comment if you don't like the Question.

No Flame Meant just seems like you are being a Buzz Kill....

Bless,
DZ
 
BDOGKush

BDOGKush

Well-Known Member
BSD0621 said:
The reason people "bash: is because people ask stupid fucking questions that have been cover'd MILLIONS of times if not more. People are either too lazy or brain dead to search for a grow guide and READ THE FUCKING THING! But I guess humans are prone to asking stupid questions as the education system is meant to teach you, not for a individual to learn on their own or seek answers to their questions...
Click to expand...
Just don't open the thread, skip it if you don't like the question. No need to be a troll.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top