What to think about when you just dodged a bust? Did i do the right thing?

er0senin

Well-Known Member
Hey Riu! 2 days ago when going over to my baby mamas house to get my kid i got into a situation with her, her uncle and her new boyfriend where i find out that she told them and some other people about my way of life and my projects. she knows from when we were together but also from me having to support her and pay everything for her because she is just lazy.

Anyways she does not talk very good about me to the people around her .her uncle and her boyfriend threatened me, the uncle with calling the police instantly and the boyfriend would not mind to screw me over for sure.. he even attack me with a knife last year when coming to get my child since she was spending new years with me but her mom did not take responsibility and leave this psyco, she just lied to me and said she had left him while making me pay her bills and do her shit while losing time with my kid since i had to work 24/7 and fill out my area more and more.

now this was 2 days ago and in the situation i told her "i will not bring our child back yo my home if his jerk is calling the cops, id rather not have her there if things are going to turn out like this." but in the end i got no guarantee. Her uncle was standing right there calling me a loser, nobody and all cinds of things with the phone in his hand saying he was gonna make the call. btw he is a scizofrenic fucking bastard so i dont know what to expect. Also he used to be a child molesting teacher. ive tried to get him away from my daughter but im just so powerless... the boyfriend obviously has some problem in his head aswell since he diddnt mind attacking me with a knife in front of my at the time 4 year old and her mother..

when i left the place with my child i instantly reacted. i went home cut down all my plants and took down my areas. i moved all the equipment and some of the plants wich i could save to a new and safe location. while i was doing this my brother was patroling the area for pigs watching but there was nothing.

There is still no sign of the pigs or anything else for the matter.. but im still left with this huge issue.... i mean i cant leave the problem here. it will come back and haunt me and stab me in the back, and I better be sure to be ready for it if i dont want to get fuckt. my kids mother and her "new fam" will definitely try and get rid of me as soon as i do not serve a purpose for them. and now, after this conflict i decided to try and have a low profile. Anyways i will not give her another cent, ever!

But now what? she will stop getting money from me and who is gonna pay the bills? and when they are payed by someone else, how long until someone calls the cops?

Im cinda in shock and a bit confused & sad for having to kill my mother-phenos and babies who i worked a long time to find.. but i dont wanna get fucked more than this. im prepared so that they cant just come to my house and score the jackpot.. i just feel like this whole situation is going out of controle and sooner or later, something will happend.

Should i keep growing in my new location or should i just stay 100% lowprofile for a while? like i say i have nothing connected to growing at my place anymore, the only thing is im possitive since i smoke myself.

I feel like i have done everything i can to try and fix this relation, but all i ever get is hate and problems. I have come to the point were I have to say that this is a problem I cant find the answer to. I know there is a lot of experience floating around here and that a lot of ppl might have been in similar situations.. what should i do from here? im not the person to give up, but it feels like no matter what i do or say it will just leave a bad experience.

how the hell do i deal with all this?
 

Krondizzel

New Member
As a matter of fact, my thread is like, 6 below this one on the first page titled "had to hack them down".

Read that up.
 

Slab

Well-Known Member
take propper care as to not be followed to your new spot and NEVER bring your cell phone to your new location.

get your money up, get a good lawyer and go for custody. sounds like your daughter is in an unhealthy enviroment there.
 

blacksun

New Member
Sorry to hear about all the drama! If you keep growing, the worst case scenario they take your kid away permanently. It's kind of up to you.
 

er0senin

Well-Known Member
Sorry to hear about all the drama! Worst case scenario they take your kid away permanently. It's kind of up to you.
this is what i fear! Im 99% sure im in a safe-zone atm tho. im a very carefull person after all.. what bothers me is that if i was to take it to court she might bring a lot of shit up makeing this process very long and hard.. worst case scenario she makes them think we are both incompetent and away my daughter goes forever.. im glad i cut it all down and acted instantly. maybe they did call the cops but i was lucky it was christmas or they were lazy who knows?

i would love to make the shit stop but i would hate to take my childs mother away from her... i know that my kid wouldt forgive me. My ex treats our kid good. she dont abuse or beat her and she means a lot to our daughter. The problem is she has no sence of resposability and she cant take action when she sees a person who should not be involved with her life even if she does indeed love our daughter. people are not so complex things, she may just fear beeing alone.

i want to beat some sence into her head not beat her in court since that would be risky. as you say theyl take my kid away permanently from both me and her mom if i dont play my cards right.

i already got rid of every part of infromation. computers phone cards phones gear everything. and i never use a phone so that they can trace it back to me personally.

The system sucks so bad its crazy.. so does some women
 

Krondizzel

New Member
Life goes on. Just don't be a dick and kinda move on your own way so she doesn't rip you a new one, tip toe away at first ... but make your way out that door.
 

gagekko

Well-Known Member
this is what i fear! Im 99% sure im in a safe-zone atm tho. im a very carefull person after all.. what bothers me is that if i was to take it to court she might bring a lot of shit up makeing this process very long and hard.. worst case scenario she makes them think we are both incompetent and away my daughter goes forever.. im glad i cut it all down and acted instantly. maybe they did call the cops but i was lucky it was christmas or they were lazy who knows?

i would love to make the shit stop but i would hate to take my childs mother away from her... i know that my kid wouldt forgive me. My ex treats our kid good. she dont abuse or beat her and she means a lot to our daughter. The problem is she has no sence of resposability and she cant take action when she sees a person who should not be involved with her life even if she does indeed love our daughter. people are not so complex things, she may just fear beeing alone.

i want to beat some sence into her head not beat her in court since that would be risky. as you say theyl take my kid away permanently from both me and her mom if i dont play my cards right.

i already got rid of every part of infromation. computers phone cards phones gear everything. and i never use a phone so that they can trace it back to me personally.

The system sucks so bad its crazy.. so does some women
You need to let ur pride go and kiss the bitch's ass - at least until u can make a break and pull a Houdini and leave no forwarding address. If you can't do this, might as well give up on the grow. Either that or move to a state where you can be legal.
 

Krondizzel

New Member
this is what i fear! Im 99% sure im in a safe-zone atm tho. im a very carefull person after all.. what bothers me is that if i was to take it to court she might bring a lot of shit up makeing this process very long and hard.. worst case scenario she makes them think we are both incompetent and away my daughter goes forever.. im glad i cut it all down and acted instantly. maybe they did call the cops but i was lucky it was christmas or they were lazy who knows?

i would love to make the shit stop but i would hate to take my childs mother away from her... i know that my kid wouldt forgive me. My ex treats our kid good. she dont abuse or beat her and she means a lot to our daughter. The problem is she has no sence of resposability and she cant take action when she sees a person who should not be involved with her life even if she does indeed love our daughter. people are not so complex things, she may just fear beeing alone.

i want to beat some sence into her head not beat her in court since that would be risky. as you say theyl take my kid away permanently from both me and her mom if i dont play my cards right.

i already got rid of every part of infromation. computers phone cards phones gear everything. and i never use a phone so that they can trace it back to me personally.

The system sucks so bad its crazy.. so does some women
You've got the kid at risk with a crazy chick about to cause hell and you're asking us if you should lay low or chill. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that you need to watch your ass and get it together until conditions allow you to start back up. for now, don't be silly, watch your ass.
 

er0senin

Well-Known Member
You need to let ur pride go and kiss the bitch's ass - at least until u can make a break and pull a Houdini and leave no forwarding address. If you can't do this, might as well give up on the grow. Either that or move to a state where you can be legal.
i am not from the US sorry :/. kissing her ass huh? thats what ive been doing all this time! trying to fix things and try to make everyone happy and now this is were i am.. i dont have problems with my pride. if i did i wouldnt have asked for help from more experienced people.
 

gagekko

Well-Known Member
i am not from the US sorry :/. kissing her ass huh? thats what ive been doing all this time! trying to fix things and try to make everyone happy and now this is were i am.. i dont have problems with my pride. if i did i wouldnt have asked for help from more experienced people.
My ex knows my gig.... I've been down that road. I'm legal now but haven't always been that way. Before I kissed her ass, avoided her like the plague, and bought her lot of presents :P But I didn't have a child with her either - that's gotta be tough.

I can't tell you how to handle your law enforcement - you know them better than me. Seems to me, u are and always will be at her mercy. Unless you can find a new grow location nobody knows of, you're only safe until the next argument - good luck.
 

er0senin

Well-Known Member
You've got the kid at risk with a crazy chick about to cause hell and you're asking us if you should lay low or chill. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that you need to watch your ass and get it together until conditions allow you to start back up. for now, don't be silly, watch your ass.
you are absolutely right Sir..

luckily its what ive been trying to do and so far without any problems. i could still stay connected to my new place but i think i will just leave the resposability to someone else for the time beeing. its still my gear so i will still get something out of it.

i am watching my ass. tbh im not worried about getting busted, im in the clear for now. what worries me is the future. i dont want to live my life under conditions like this and i certanly dont want it for my kid either.

but you are right. all i can do is wait and make sure to be ready cause something will go down sooner or later.. thank you, sometimes when faced with problems wich affect feelings it becomes impossible to see the obvious.
 

er0senin

Well-Known Member
My ex knows my gig.... I've been down that road. I'm legal now but haven't always been that way. Before I kissed her ass, avoided her like the plague. But I didn't have a child with her either - that's gotta be tough.

I can't tell you how to handle your law enforcement - you know them better than me. Seems to me, u are and always will be at her mercy. Unless you can find a new grow location nobody knows of, you're only safe until the next argument - good luck.
im moving to holland this summer for work and study purpose so i wont always be illegal. as soon as i get out of the illegal growing i will probably try and take custody.

I just hate having to put my kid thru hell.. well its not all my fault but i sure did misstakes too.. after i move to holland i also have the advantage since if she fuck up "back home" i will still have custody and the goverment cant say shit about what i do in another country legally.

i alrady have a new location thats impossible to find thru me since its not connected to my life at all as far as anyone knows. but ive distanced myself from it and have someone else taking care of it. i will still get what i need for myself since its my gear and i dont ever have to come close to it unless i want to but i belive its better to stay safe.

when i was a kid my parent went to court and it was just hell for everybody in the family.. maybe that is what keeps me from actually taking this to court.
 

althor

Well-Known Member
Hey Riu! 2 days ago when going over to my baby mamas house to get my kid i got into a situation with her, her uncle and her new boyfriend where i find out that she told them and some other people about my way of life and my projects. she knows from when we were together but also from me having to support her and pay everything for her because she is just lazy.

Anyways she does not talk very good about me to the people around her .her uncle and her boyfriend threatened me, the uncle with calling the police instantly and the boyfriend would not mind to screw me over for sure.. he even attack me with a knife last year when coming to get my child since she was spending new years with me but her mom did not take responsibility and leave this psyco, she just lied to me and said she had left him while making me pay her bills and do her shit while losing time with my kid since i had to work 24/7 and fill out my area more and more.

now this was 2 days ago and in the situation i told her "i will not bring our child back yo my home if his jerk is calling the cops, id rather not have her there if things are going to turn out like this." but in the end i got no guarantee. Her uncle was standing right there calling me a loser, nobody and all cinds of things with the phone in his hand saying he was gonna make the call. btw he is a scizofrenic fucking bastard so i dont know what to expect. Also he used to be a child molesting teacher. ive tried to get him away from my daughter but im just so powerless... the boyfriend obviously has some problem in his head aswell since he diddnt mind attacking me with a knife in front of my at the time 4 year old and her mother..

when i left the place with my child i instantly reacted. i went home cut down all my plants and took down my areas. i moved all the equipment and some of the plants wich i could save to a new and safe location. while i was doing this my brother was patroling the area for pigs watching but there was nothing.

There is still no sign of the pigs or anything else for the matter.. but im still left with this huge issue.... i mean i cant leave the problem here. it will come back and haunt me and stab me in the back, and I better be sure to be ready for it if i dont want to get fuckt. my kids mother and her "new fam" will definitely try and get rid of me as soon as i do not serve a purpose for them. and now, after this conflict i decided to try and have a low profile. Anyways i will not give her another cent, ever!

But now what? she will stop getting money from me and who is gonna pay the bills? and when they are payed by someone else, how long until someone calls the cops?

Im cinda in shock and a bit confused & sad for having to kill my mother-phenos and babies who i worked a long time to find.. but i dont wanna get fucked more than this. im prepared so that they cant just come to my house and score the jackpot.. i just feel like this whole situation is going out of controle and sooner or later, something will happend.

Should i keep growing in my new location or should i just stay 100% lowprofile for a while? like i say i have nothing connected to growing at my place anymore, the only thing is im possitive since i smoke myself.

I feel like i have done everything i can to try and fix this relation, but all i ever get is hate and problems. I have come to the point were I have to say that this is a problem I cant find the answer to. I know there is a lot of experience floating around here and that a lot of ppl might have been in similar situations.. what should i do from here? im not the person to give up, but it feels like no matter what i do or say it will just leave a bad experience.

how the hell do i deal with all this?

This is the easiest question ever asked on a grow site.


What is more important to you, your grow or your daughter?
Should be a hands down easy answer.

Scrap your crap.

Cut all ties with your EX, except picking up and dropping off your daughter. Quit giving her money that isnt court ordered.

I would also hire a lawyer and find out why the hell my daughter is being taken around a known (and convicted?) child molester. No court in the world would allow that.
 

hotrodharley

Well-Known Member
Agree with the above poster. Smoker since 1963, growing since 1964, dad since 1994. I quit everything for years at a time (3 years one time) with NO smoke rather than risk legal bullshit. My child meant, and means, more to me than every gram of pot in this world.
 

kryptoniteglo

Well-Known Member
Hey erOsenin,

So sorry you got so spooked that you cut down your grow, but you probably did the right thing.

My best friend is divorced with two kids and the hell he has to go through to see his kids regularly and the abuse he has to put up with from the ex wife is ridiculous. It's so stressful it brings him to tears more often than not. And I'm sure she would rat you out if at any point that becomes the convenient thing for her to do.

You have two things to think about. First is setting up a grow site that this woman knows nothing about, and maybe waiting a couple of months to do it. Can you get a part-time job of some kind in the meanwhile so that you can convince her you're not growing anymore? Second is deciding what you're going to do about your daughter. You call this woman your baby mama, so that means to me you weren't legally married. If that's the case, you can prove paternity in court, and ask for custody. You can prove paternity in court and ask for joint custody. Whatever it is, you have rights as the baby's father to see your child unharassed. You also have responsibilities in terms of child support -- but you are in no way obligated to support the mother.

You might want to get in touch with a single dad's group for advice -- many men have gone through this shit before you, and there's a ton of info out there. You need a RIU for single dads...:)

Best of luck,
KG
 

hotrodharley

Well-Known Member
And DO NOT voice the opinion that any or all of the unrelated motherfuckers your ex is kin to should be dead. DO NOT!!!! Say it, watch one of the POS disappear and you couldn't grow enough in 2 years to even make bail. Besides, karma is a bitch. What goes around comes around. It did in my case. My child told her mother to stick it and came to live with me before she was 15. She does still. Her mom rarely hears from her. This shit blows up right in the face of those using your history like grenades.
 

hotrodharley

Well-Known Member
Domestic courts in the US need a big healthy enema. Men get screwed each and every day in these frigging monstrosities they claim is justice. I hope all the judges guilty of needlessly destroying families so some cunt can pull her cunt shit in court roll in Hell for eternity.
 
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