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mygirls said:

no deffrence between the two. you and i and every one else knows that they mean the same thing, just diffrent words.

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there is a huge difference between the two and you should know it.

when i have extra meds from my harvest, i let go of as many of them as i can while still reserving enough to medicate. the extra meds help me pay the electric bill, the water bill, and anything else associated with producing. that is perfectly within the letter of the state law. i never set any prices, i accept any donation, and i even end up giving away about 1/4 oz every harvest as a mitzvah to deserving patients that have no money.

people who sell, rather than do what i do, can not say the same.

these two things are very different. just try and deny it.

UncleBuck said:

there is a huge difference between the two and you should know it.

when i have extra meds from my harvest, i let go of as many of them as i can while still reserving enough to medicate. the extra meds help me pay the electric bill, the water bill, and anything else associated with producing. that is perfectly within the letter of the state law. i never set any prices, i accept any donation, and i even end up giving away about 1/4 oz every harvest as a mitzvah to deserving patients that have no money.

people who sell, rather than do what i do, can not say the same.

these two things are very different. just try and deny it.

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you as as dam well as i do that there is no such thing as non profit, the word yes meaning NO...

there is no difference from "selling" or accepting "donations"

that shit will not hold up in court...money was exchanged...PERIOD!

hookers ask for "donations" too.

SmokeyMcSmokester said:

hookers ask for "donations" too.

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Winning!!

Sin,

Charlie S.

SmokeyMcSmokester said:

there is no difference from "selling" or accepting "donations"

that shit will not hold up in court...money was exchanged...PERIOD!

hookers ask for "donations" too.

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Actually, as long as it is to other MMJ patients, then it should hold up in court, as long as the donation is not too large. That is the grey area, they say we can recoup expenses besides labor, but they do not say how we can do that, or how much to take for donations.

SmokeyMcSmokester said:

there is no difference from "selling" or accepting "donations"

that shit will not hold up in court...money was exchanged...PERIOD!

hookers ask for "donations" too.

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exactly the clubs that got busted down here weren't all doing illegal sells, they excepted donations like the laws say and guess what they still got busted and thrown in jail.

donation = selling same fucking thing

I honestly just got to upset reading this thread that I had to sign up for this website. You are so high up on your horse that obviously you are above the clouds and can't see down to the real word anymore, let me help you out and bring you back to reality. It may not cost much to grow a bit of weed for yourself, but if you are growing the maximum legal amount for 4 patients, that's a whole of expenses you're putting up for growing. I absolutely think that getting a donation back is in the scope of the law and completely moral, especially when you are giving it to people who really don't have proper access to a grower.

Now, I DO have a problem with the growers/dispensaries that are selling their medicine for near black market price, I think anyone doing that should be shut down. If you're going to help people get their medicine, you need to do it at a rate thats viable so that these people can medicate constantly. There's no reason to pay as much as black market weed when you realize that most of the cost of marijuana has to do with the illegality or transporting it and selling it, so once it's legal to do those things the cost should be cut in more than half. As long as you are selling a cheap product and the price is really just to cover the price of growing, I see nothing wrong with it. Only the greedy people are giving medical marijuana a bad name.

mygirls said:

you as as dam well as i do that there is no such thing as non profit, the word yes meaning NO...

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this was so incoherent that i simply can not make any meaning out of it.

use proper english and try again.

i kinda had a hard time understanding that one to mygirls.
but its cool, im sure you were heavily medicated.

SmokeyMcSmokester said:

there is no difference from "selling" or accepting "donations"

that shit will not hold up in court...money was exchanged...PERIOD!

hookers ask for "donations" too.

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[FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot]475.304 Marijuana grow site registration system; rules.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot](7) A registry identification cardholder or the designated primary caregiver of the cardholder may reimburse the person responsible for a marijuana grow site for the costs of supplies and utilities associated with the production of marijuana for the registry identification cardholder. No other costs associated with the production of marijuana for the registry identification cardholder, including the cost of labor, may be reimbursed. [2005 c.822 §8; 2007 c.573 §2; 2009 c.595 §966][/FONT]

here is the law, staring you in the face.

the same law that would apply to me in any court of law here in the state of oregon.

for your reference: http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/475.html

want to apologize for being wrong now?

or would you like a shovel to keep digging that hole deeper?

mcpurple said:

donation = selling same fucking thing

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nope. not even close.

no matter how little money a person may have, even none at all, i will still help.

try going to your local grocery store and get food with no money. it won't happen, unless they are more compassionate than my local grocery store.

but again, i know you are a bit of a mooch with a 'fuck you, i got mine' attitude. we have discussed this before. you know it.

in other words, i wouldn't expect you to understand simple concepts.

UncleBuck said:

[FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot]475.304 Marijuana grow site registration system; rules.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot](7) A registry identification cardholder or the designated primary caregiver of the cardholder may reimburse the person responsible for a marijuana grow site for the costs of supplies and utilities associated with the production of marijuana for the registry identification cardholder. No other costs associated with the production of marijuana for the registry identification cardholder, including the cost of labor, may be reimbursed. [2005 c.822 §8; 2007 c.573 §2; 2009 c.595 §966][/FONT]

here is the law, staring you in the face.

the same law that would apply to me in any court of law here in the state of oregon.

for your reference: http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/475.html

want to apologize for being wrong now?

or would you like a shovel to keep digging that hole deeper?

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almost all growers except donations by the ounce and thats bull shit it is just a cover. in all honest a indoor or out door grow is not that expensive, if a grower wants money then maybe he or she should not take on so many patients.

donation = sell.

and how the fuck am i a mooch dude, cuz i found a grower who was compassionate and did not ask for a fucking dime and gave me top quality meds and enough of them. sounds like a bit of jealousy to me man.
and since he did not ask for cash, guess what? i gave him some money for his work just to be nice.

i talked to ever 30 growers and all of them wanted money by the ounce, now is that a donation?

sounds to me like your a grower who charges and doesnt like being put on the spot.

mcpurple said:

almost all growers except donations by the ounce and thats bull shit it is just a cover. in all honest a indoor or out door grow is not that expensive, if a grower wants money then maybe he or she should not take on so many patients.

donation = sell.

and how the fuck am i a mooch dude, cuz i found a grower who was compassionate and did not ask for a fucking dime and gave me top quality meds and enough of them. sounds like a bit of jealousy to me man.
and since he did not ask for cash, guess what? i gave him some money for his work just to be nice.

i talked to ever 30 growers and all of them wanted money by the ounce, now is that a donation?

sounds to me like your a grower who charges and doesnt like being put on the spot.

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I think most growers take care of their cardholders that they grow for. Donations tend to be other cardholders that may not have a grower yet, or cardholders that have a bad grower, from what I understand. There can be people, also, that are wanting to try many different medicines, to see which ones suit their symptoms the best. Sometimes what their grower has may not be perfect for their situation.

No hate here, just sticking up for the honest growers that take care of their patients, and many others.

hazorazo said:

I think most growers take care of their cardholders that they grow for. Donations tend to be other cardholders that may not have a grower yet, or cardholders that have a bad grower, from what I understand. There can be people, also, that are wanting to try many different medicines, to see which ones suit their symptoms the best. Sometimes what their grower has may not be perfect for their situation.

No hate here, just sticking up for the honest growers that take care of their patients, and many others.

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i have no hate for any one either, i am all for a honest good grower. that will take care of theri patients needs.

like i said though when i got a grower i went trough alot to make sure i found one that fit my needs, all but a few asked for cash by the ounce.

mcpurple said:

almost all growers except donations by the ounce and thats bull shit it is just a cover.

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no, it is the law. want me to post it again?

mcpurple said:

in all honest a indoor or out door grow is not that expensive

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you are not on the same plane of reality as the rest of us. i will do a cost breakdown of a single, 24 plant grow (18 veg, 6 flower). it gets expensive.

for fuck's sake, the cheapest greenhouse i can build will still run over $350 before i put a single plant in the ground.

you are deluded.

mcpurple said:

if a grower wants money then maybe he or she should not take on so many patients.

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i have no patients. the 6 plants i grow supply me and my wife just fine with plenty leftover. i accept donations for this surplus. not by the ounce, either...any donation i accept.

and always, some of it gets given away FREE as a mitzvah.

mcpurple said:

donation = sell.

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not equivalent.

stores that run sales have set prices. i don't.

and why should i trust you on ANYTHING if you assert the positively retarded statement that growing weed does not get expensive?

mcpurple said:

and how the fuck am i a mooch dude, cuz i found a grower who was compassionate and did not ask for a fucking dime and gave me top quality meds and enough of them.

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you think weed should be free?

mooch attitude.

we went over this in another thread that i don't feel like searching for. you are clearly mooch.

mcpurple said:

sounds like a bit of jealousy to me man.

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reverse that statement. that is my rebuttal.

if i were so telepathic as to claim to know the inner workings of your mind via the internet, i would say you are just jealous that i supply myself with top shelf meds for little or no cost depending on how many surplus meds i accept donations for or give away.

mcpurple said:

i talked to ever 30 growers and all of them wanted money by the ounce, now is that a donation?

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how much do you think it costs in supplies and utilities to produce an ounce of weed?

i am interested in seeing what a deluded fuck like yourself has to say about this.

mcpurple said:

sounds to me like your a grower who charges and doesnt like being put on the spot.

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i am a grower who stays within the letter of the law and has no problem justifying his actions, especially to a deluded mooch who thinks weed does not cost money to grow and should be given to him for free.

you sound mad.
cheer up bud.

every one has their views and opinions, i see no reason to argue mine with some one else who thinks differently then me.

and oh ya i will grow a single plant for you with no cash involved and pull an ounce or more in the woods. just to show it can and has been done and that it really does not cost that fucking much to do

im done with this thread cuz it is like all the others in the oregon section.
Peace.
And have a good life

mcpurple said:

and oh ya i will grow a single plant for you with no cash involved and pull an ounce or more in the woods. just to show it can and has been done and that it really does not cost that fucking much to do

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your optimism, while refreshing, smacks of total noob 17 year old.

so, seeds are free? clones are free?

you can just pop that sucker right in the forest, you don't have to germinate it and harden it off first? which, of course, would involve buying a container, soil, perlite, nutrients, etc...

you think you will have 100% success? 100% females? not likely. you would have to plant several clones/seeds just to make sure one of them survives to harvest. you gotta deal with mold, animals, rippers, etc...

how are you going to plant them? if you want to dig a hole, you might be able to do so with your hands. a shovel might help. those cost a few dollars too.

say you are successful....how you gonna harvest and manicure it? need some good shears for that.

you want to dry and cure it, too? well fuck, you better have a warm, dry place to do it...places like that cost money to rent.

what about winter? weed plants don't grow in the woods in winter here in oregon.

hence the cost breakdown of a single 24 plant ommp grow. if you think the scant few costs i accounted for above add up, wait until you see what it costs to actually grow weed.

i'm not surprised you think weed should be free, you sound like a naive 17 year old. which is sad considering that you are a much older ex-felon.

i am only 20.

and i am still some what of a noob, ive never even done an outdoor and yet i am sure i wil prove you wrong.

seeds for me yes they are free, i know many friendly med growers who hook me up and i dont even have t ask.
clones yes they do cost, so it will be a seed grow.

and no not just straight to the forest, start off in pots first and maybe start only 10 just to get a few females.
a hole is not hard to dig with my hands but i prefer a small shovel witch i already have, plus the forest ground here is very rich in nutrients.

and harvest is nothing man, i got god shears but i can do a great trim job with a 1 dollar pair of scissors, but i have real trimming scissors already to.

you are coming up with questions that have simple answers.

you must think i was gonna start now. i am not i am gonna wait till summer. and not all 24 plants will be alive once they hit a foot tall so thats 18 plants that you dont have to worry about. legal limit is 6 mature plants. and you can get more then enough meds off of 1 indoor plant let alone 6.

i am not much older and ya i am a felon who the fuck cares, you never made mistakes?

it is so easy to grow for very cheap.

here you go.

dirt is fucking free it is not hard to make you own with a few different ingredients.
2 fertilizer is also free. horse shit, cow shit, rabbit shit, compost, fuck even used coffee grounds are free.
seeds are free for me, i have a collection of seeds and med patients are always willing to help out for free where i live cuz i am willing to help them out for free when needed.
germinating does not cost money, hardening a plant does not cost money.
i have all the containers i need, and it is not that hard to make one out some wood i have laying around. or you could just strt it off in a small water bottle its not hard or expensive.

every thing i will use will be FREE. my dirt,nutes,seeds,pots every thing

im 44 and still consider myself a newbie..

If I could move back to my home state wa and get medical I would donate part of my harvests to a collection