What would it really take to go to war with your own government...?

TheSnake said:

Lol, I have done nothing. One does not simply choose a country though... sadly, many can do that for coming to america, but natural born Americans are most of the time, SOL for moving away unless citizenship is found through marriage. So if your a married american, good luck going someplace else, not to mention being financially secure enough, to move anywhere in the first place. It's not like you can walk across the ocean, to your destinations.

Besides, being an american, is great... 60 years ago. Now the guy's like me in our late 20's have a shot to hell economy, more laws than ever in history to contend with that basically makes simply trying to live, a crime, and the military would be the easy job to get with benefits, too bad i already tried that.

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A key reason it was great 60 years ago (was it? 1953 wasn't during the Time of the Great Fat yet ... try 10 years later) was that it was awful 80 years ago. Things are being held away from awful now by massive Federal aid and entitlement programs. A state like that needs to get Russia-in-'90 awful before things really change. Of course, look at Russia now. Awful. (Unless you're an Insider and have a late-model S-class, probably armored.) cn

skunkd0c said:

Q.what will it take for folk to stand up to their slave masters ?
A.courage

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The older, more universal answer was "arms".
Arms that are at least a credible irritant to the average legionnaire or squire or footsoldier. That game's run away from Average Joe. G.I. Joe has some amazing equipment, and not just the AR-4 and Dragon launcher. cn

You ask what would it really take.....More than likely your life at best.....Its been tried with no good results...Or do you mean a war against repubs Vs Dems, If that is the case the other day there was some news about the Dems being weaker people, so they would more than likely lose.....Is that the answer you might be looking for?

GOD HERE said:

Our forefathers did not have cowboy boots.

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My forefathers had foreskin...

TheSnake said:

I want to know why there are so many intersecting agency's on this, and why cannabis was kept illegal after prohibition ended, when alcohol clearly caused more problems. In my eye's, you want to dictate, what people can do, or buy, or sell, or trade, under what authority?... we are blobs of molecules floating in a vast nothingness with no meaning, give us something to entertain ourselves... the outside is feeling more and more like prison as the years pass.

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It is a sick history in self rule. The citizens in CA were first to ban it. The big three followed. TX, NY, FL.

Coke was still really coc. When it got to Congress is was wound up into a bunch of State self-interests at the time. Everything from the tobacco lobby, they alcohol lobby, and the save the white girls lobby was thrown in and Da Kine had no advocacy at all. It was a problem variously of the Blacks and Chinese, etc lumped into Hard Drugs and lied about. Then a Prussian from Pennsylvania was put in charge of the Drug Enforcement.

He some severe emotional problems, himself. But, those were the days, and he operated the entirety for 30 years. Alcohol and tobacco and caffeine won the game. Treaties were negotiated to begin the drug war, (not yet called that) these have lead to almost Universal banking/snooping laws. (still not Belize, afaik.)

And here we are. We are still working with State Rights and, possibly, winning for now.

It's a Federated Democracy. CA will try a vote for legal next year, I think. It will save us billions and make us billions. No way the Fed can do anything. Settle law.

nitro harley said:

You ask what would it really take.....More than likely your life at best.....Its been tried with no good results...Or do you mean a war against repubs Vs Dems, If that is the case the other day there was some news about the Dems being weaker people, so they would more than likely lose.....Is that the answer you might be looking for?

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Yeah anyone thinks it is that simple....fight the govt. No. There is almost no way to get a fight started.

At this point most of us would fight against insurrection.

Just look at Syria. Just look at any and every war. It never begins fair, never becomes fair and never ends fair. Fair fight has nothing to do with winning.

So, tell me, anyone. How, when, where did the Syrian fight start? When did WW2 start? They attributed the assassination of Arch Duke Ferdinand for starting WW1, but really? Or just a historical convenience?

If another USA civil war got started....just when would the govt be admitting that, these days? I mean the fight is at the State level right. First you fight a State and take over. Now we have a civil war.